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I totally disagree with this.Ever been around an inspirational figure in your life? Tebow is a great, great leader, they won because of him.
Any QB (aside from maybe Jay Cutler) would do that. Do you think Thomas is happier now having one who can throw him the ball accurately than one who pats him on the back? Did you miss Thomas' comments about Tebow on the way out?The video of him sitting down telling Demaryius Thomas not to worry about a drop and telling him he was going to go back out there and catch the game winning touchdown shows what an incredible leader he is.
The won games with awful QB play. That is winning in spite of him.To say they won in spite of him is plain ridiculous, they lost with Orton, they didn't win in spite of Orton.
Guys who cant play but are motiviational dont beat guys who can play and arent.I'm a huge fan of the guy as a sportsman. I don't believe in a god, I don't think he has great skills but his leadership qualities are undeniable.
Still though there are probbaly worse QB's in the NFL right now than Tebow, but he obviously doesn't care about his NFL career that much or he would have changed positions to stay with a team.
It took a whole 12 posts before you chimed in. Did you sleep late?
Have you ever played sports with guys that always seem to win ugly? That's what I'm saying. Tebow may be one of those guys. It was ugly in 2011, but they started winning when Tebow was made the starter.
Forgot to set his Tebow alarm.
If I am not mistaken christian cat is a female.
Guys who cant play but are motiviational dont beat guys who can play and arent.
Can't play or not. Tebow helped elevate a run game by about 60 yds per game. Like I said, he threw 1 pick in the 8 wins they had that year. His passing was terrible for the most part until the 4th quarter when it matters most. These are the things directly affected by playing Tebow yet you give him no credit for them. Doesn't do you any good to have a beautiful pocket passer who throws game changing, momentum changing interceptions every Sunday.
There are a whole lot of more talented passers in the league that mentally fold like an accordion when faced with the pressure of competition.
No one is arguing the success he had in Denver. What we are saying is that if he wanted to be a football player he would not be a broadcaster. He would hone his skills in the CFL or play a different position. He's a selfish, ego-maniac who i lost all respect for.
Because they wouldn't throw the ball.Can't play or not. Tebow helped elevate a run game by about 60 yds per game.
It wasn't better in the 4th quarter either.Like I said, he threw 1 pick in the 8 wins they had that year. His passing was terrible for the most part until the 4th quarter when it matters most.
I give him credit and blame for everything. You are arguing as if by finding any positive aspect of the player that means he isn't a bad player.These are the things directly affected by playing Tebow yet you give him no credit for them.
Who is that? Which QB are you saying does this, that Tebow is better than?Doesn't do you any good to have a beautiful pocket passer who throws game changing, momentum changing interceptions every Sunday.
Please name them. Please give me your list of the QBs you think Tebow is better than.There are a whole lot of more talented passers in the league that mentally fold like an accordion when faced with the pressure of competition.
Yes, my whole life.
I totally disagree with this.
Not going here because whether Thomas prefers one of the most accurate passers in the NFL has nothing to do with my comments.Any QB (aside from maybe Jay Cutler) would do that. Do you think Thomas is happier now having one who can throw him the ball accurately than one who pats him on the back? Did you miss Thomas' comments about Tebow on the way out?
I never said he played great. Did you read some other posts and get confused?The won games with awful QB play. That is winning in spite of him.
The team was better playing ultra conservative and relying on the defense than throwing a lot. If Orton had stayed and they adopted that philosophy, but threw the ball better, they would have won more.
Maybe guys with a little bit of motivational talk in them but not guys with an immense presence like Tebow. A guy who runs over to his defense and tells them to get the stop and he'll win them the game. The D goes out and picks it off and Tebow is true to his word and gets them into field goal range to win the game, I can't remember who it was against. That was one hell of a performance in the fourth quarter from him.Guys who cant play but are motiviational dont beat guys who can play and arent.
Why is this in the Patriots main forum?
I would suggest the NFL forum, but it doesn't belong there either.
Maybe the practice squad, but he would be lucky to be there too.
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You totally disagree that he is an inspirational leader? Please explain this why?
Not going here because whether Thomas prefers one of the most accurate passers in the NFL has nothing to do with my comments.
I never said he played great. Did you read some other posts and get confused?
He did some good stuff in the fourth quarter of games though. You know the clutch time which is something he has plenty of too.
Maybe guys with a little bit of motivational talk in them but not guys with an immense presence like Tebow. A guy who runs over to his defense and tells them to get the stop and he'll win them the game. The D goes out and picks it off and Tebow is true to his word and gets them into field goal range to win the game, I can't remember who it was against. That was one hell of a performance in the fourth quarter from him.
What makes you think Tebow would be successful in the NFL at a different position? I agree he's not fit to play quarterback in the league. His mechanics are horrible and if you make him have to come off his first read and go through his progressions, he's done. But at a different position, one that he's probably never played before in his life either, it's not exactly a sure thing that he would make it. Can't fault the guy for wanting to stick with the position that he knows best and grew up in to try to make it in the league. Tebow was and is just doing what is most logical.
That is fine if you feel that way. I don't believe that rah rah stuff makes a difference with professional football players. As a Patriot fan, I assumed you saw it that way too.
I think the league has responded on this as well, evidenced by his unemployed status.
As a Patriots fan I remember all too well when Belichick was bemoaning the lack of leadership on the D. In drafts since then its been very clear how important players who have been team captains are in his thinking.
What does that have to do with whether a QB who is not good is valuable because he is a rah-rah type guy?
I'm sure you will find that drafting captains is consistent throughout most teams, since generally the best players get drafted and the best players are captains.
You are creating an anecdotal example to prove an anecdotal point.