Patriots signed former Bills WR Donald Jones

[DarrylS]

Good move, was anticipating the signing.. the Pats for some reason hold back some of this stuff..

This is good stuff, hope he passed the advanced wonderlic..

 

[Big-T]

Good signing.

Bet he's glad Wilfork isn't going to be tackling him anymore during games too!

 

[Drake&BarmoreFTW]

Was Greg Jennings signed by anyone?

Not yet but he was visiting with the Vikings.

 

[dryheat44]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

So they're going to saddle Brady with the Caldwell bunch again this year?

The season's a long way from starting. Jones is better than any non-Brown WR from 2006. But the key point is that Jones at 2.5 million (theoretical) is better, to me, and I'll bet Belichick, than Lloyd at 7 million. We'll see where the numbers come out, but it seems to me that Brown is a cheaper and younger version of Lloyd. Don't let the fact that he's been saddled with Ryan Fitzpatrick and worse distract you. This is a great buy-low move.

I'm not saying Belichick wants Lloyd gone (I'm not saying he doesn't either), I'm saying he doesn't want to pay 3 million dollars for the right to pay 4 million dollars, and this is a way out.

There's no way Lloyd gets 4 million a year on the open market right now.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

I see disaster here

It's 4th & goal from the 4 in the playoffs, opponent going for it and the DC yells out "Get your ass in there Jones and rush the passer!"

Newbie Donald Jones having no clue about playoff football panics, runs onto the field and we get flagged for 12 men on the field. 1st down. Patsfan servers crash.

 

[KDPPatsfan85]

I like the signing! Giving Brady more weapons!

Take this for what its worth...

Jon Scott ?@jscottNFL
NFL source tells us that the #Patriots likely to be making some moves today. #staytuned

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

The season's a long way from starting. Jones is better than any non-Brown WR from 2006. But the key point is that Jones at 2.5 million (theoretical) is better, to me, and I'll bet Belichick, than Lloyd at 7 million. We'll see where the numbers come out, but it seems to me that Brown is a cheaper and younger version of Lloyd. Don't let the fact that he's been saddled with Ryan Fitzpatrick and worse distract you. This is a great buy-low move.

I'm not saying Belichick wants Lloyd gone (I'm not saying he doesn't either), I'm saying he doesn't want to pay 3 million dollars for the right to pay 4 million dollars, and this is a way out.

There's no way Lloyd gets 4 million a year on the open market right now.

Restructured or cut. We'll know soon.

 

[letekro]

Edelman does not have that size and is more quick than fast.

I don't know. Jones was 6' 0" 204 at the combine. Edelman is listed at either 5' 10" 198 or 6' 0" 198 depending on the website. Having watched some youtube, Jones does look like a slightly "longer" athlete. My recollection of him is that he is the guy they like to use for bubble screens and other short and intermediate stuff inside the numbers.

I think Edelman is both quick and fast, although hard to prove it b/c he wasn't at the combine.

Edit: Edelman ran a 4.51 at his pro day, so Jones slightly faster.

 

[Bobs My Uncle]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

I've seen Jones play a ton (I'm married to a Bills fan and live in Bills territory). I can't imagine they'd cut Lloyd for Jones. Maybe Jones + another, much better WR, to be named later.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

The season's a long way from starting. Jones is better than any non-Brown WR from 2006. But the key point is that Jones at 2.5 million (theoretical) is better, to me, and I'll bet Belichick, than Lloyd at 7 million. We'll see where the numbers come out, but it seems to me that Brown is a cheaper and younger version of Lloyd. Don't let the fact that he's been saddled with Ryan Fitzpatrick and worse distract you. This is a great buy-low move.

I'm not saying Belichick wants Lloyd gone (I'm not saying he doesn't either), I'm saying he doesn't want to pay 3 million dollars for the right to pay 4 million dollars, and this is a way out.

There's no way Lloyd gets 4 million a year on the open market right now.

While I don't think it's a "great buy-low move", because Jones has been totally underwhelming when I've seen him, I was referring more to the idea of the loss of the known receivers and the replacement with lessers/unknowns.

And I'd really hope that people around here would stop pointing to the dollars as if that makes things better. I don't know how many years of crap FA for crap dollars it's going to take for people to understand that the buy one, get one free approach only works if you hit on the players. Taking a scattershot approach is fine, when you hit. It's crap when you miss, the same as spending big on just a few guys. The same as trading down, trading up or staying the same.

That stuff works (2011), except when it doesn't (2012).

 

[Nunchucks]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

I've seen Jones play a ton (I'm married to a Bills fan and live in Bills territory). I can't imagine they'd cut Lloyd for Jones. Maybe Jones + another, much better WR, to be named later.

I agree, this is not the beginning of Lloyds end.

 

[JoeShmoe]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

Color me underwhelmed, camp fodder

 

[Horace's Ivories]

Back in Feb when Jones learned of the Bills decision not to resign him:


"'It was pretty upsetting to get the call today," Jones said. "It kind of was a shock. But it is what it is. Now me and my family will move forward to another team and hopefully I get to play against the Bills.


Wish granted - welcome!

 

[dryheat44]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

I've seen Jones play a ton (I'm married to a Bills fan and live in Bills territory). I can't imagine they'd cut Lloyd for Jones. Maybe Jones + another, much better WR, to be named later.

Right. I'm not suggesting they sign Jones, cut Lloyd, and sit on their hands.

I'm suggesting they sign Jones, cut the version of Lloyd where he is paid 7 million and hits the cap for 5 million, and sign someone else or the version of Lloyd where he is paid a rate more commensurate to his ability and the market.

 

[condon84]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

Might be training camp fodder. He's not better than Lloyd nor is he better than Edelman. Plus he's behind both in terms of knowing the offense.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

Color me underwhelmed, camp fodder

Buffalo Bills wide receiver Donald Jones TD catch

He has potential.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I don't know. Jones was 6' 0" 204 at the combine. Edelman is listed at either 5' 10" 198 or 6' 0" 198 depending on the website. Having watched some youtube, Jones does look like a slightly "longer" athlete. My recollection of him is that he is the guy they like to use for bubble screens and other short and intermediate stuff inside the numbers.

I think Edelman is both quick and fast, although hard to prove it b/c he wasn't at the combine.

Edit: Edelman ran a 4.51 at his pro day, so Jones slightly faster.

Edes is 5' 10" no way he's 6' 0"

 

[signbabybrady]

I love this and the Amendola move but only if it means the splashes are coming on defense.

To me there is some very sound logic in the thought that taking production from the number one overall offense and taking the savings and spending it on D.

Based on the guys brought in and the assumption the Lloyd cut rumor is true. I wll assume Amendolla replaces Wes and for now Jones replaces Lloyd and we still need to retain/replace the Edelman/Branch/Stallworth number 3 WR spot.

Amendolla will not produce the same as Wes.
Jones being young and coming from an aweful team I am not going to set a ceiling on but I assume his production will fall somewhere between what he has done and what Lloyd did last year. Both meaning less production but we were number one overall on offense if that less production drops us to number 5 or even number 10 we still will be a good offense.

The key will be the big splashes on defense and making up that difference in scoring by preventing more than that difference.

Also this is just the begining and even with some big splashes we can still close the gap between what our O looked like last year and what it looks like now.

Right now I did my math assuming Jones replaces Lloyd but lets assume Lloyd stays or that we will replace Lloyd with someone else and that Jones is more for WR3. Jones as WR3 should easily outproduce WR3 from last year. Whatever we find to replace Lloyd as an unknown right now has the potential to be able to out produce him meaning under this scenario the sum would be a lesser WR1 but a more productiove WR2 and WR3. Not saying this will go down like this but it is not that far fetched and again my above accounts for the here and now and this paragraph accounts for what might occur still this offseason.

Do It.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

If our TE duo can finally stay pretty much healthy they're a good source to pick up a deficit of catches. Plus for the love of gawd, throw to Vereen more.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: Pats sign WR Donald Jones

Right. I'm not suggesting they sign Jones, cut Lloyd, and sit on their hands.

I'm suggesting they sign Jones, cut the version of Lloyd where he is paid 7 million and hits the cap for 5 million, and sign someone else or the version of Lloyd where he is paid a rate more commensurate to his ability and the market.

That someone else could be Emmanuel Sanders. He's RFA and would cost a 3rd, but he's apparently visiting.