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The 2013 Prospect Thread

Swope is a second rounder right now, but, honestly, I wouldn't touch anyone from this weak wide receiver class. You can't get good value. Swope is a second rounder right now, but, in a normal year, he is a third rounder. It's just bad value everywhere you look
That's bad, because the Pats need somebody, with only one real WR under contract for next season in Lloyd (Slater doesn't count).
 
That's bad, because the Pats need somebody, with only one real WR under contract for next season in Lloyd (Slater doesn't count).

Well, that's how the draft. If a class is weak at a position, people will reach on that position just to fill needs. This year, terrible running backs and wide receivers will be the beneficiary. Defensive tackles (especially nose tackles) will fall, since there are so many awesome ones to choose from yet not as many needs. All wide receiver picks this year will not be high value picks, just need.
 
That being said, there isn't a whole lot that Ryan Swope has that Conner Vernon doesn't have, yet Vernon should be available late in the 4th round, maybe even into the 5th
 
What do you think about Jelani Jenkins?
 
Mackenzie, how do you like Kyle Prater?
 
Well, that's how the draft. If a class is weak at a position, people will reach on that position just to fill needs. This year, terrible running backs and wide receivers will be the beneficiary. Defensive tackles (especially nose tackles) will fall, since there are so many awesome ones to choose from yet not as many needs. All wide receiver picks this year will not be high value picks, just need.

As usual it depends on the juniors. I like the depth at receiver this year even if there isn't elite talent at the top.
 
As usual it depends on the juniors. I like the depth at receiver this year even if there isn't elite talent at the top.

Absolutely. Including juniors, into the second round there's the like of Terrance Williams, DeAndre Hopkins (who will be a quality NFL receiver) and Da'rick Rogers. Then you've still got Patton, Bailey and Wheaton who I think will all find a regular spot on an NFL roster. Last years was suppose to be a deep WR draft but you had Brian Quick and that Jets/Georgia Tech guy whose name I've forgotten going high 2nd and I think all the guys I've listed are better than them.

As for Ryan Swope, I like him but I'd be very surprised if he goes higher than the fourth round. The one that has impressed me on limited views is Zach Rogers of Tennessee who looks that little bit faster and more athletic than Swope.
 
I checked out the Tulsa game. I liked what I saw from Dexter McCoil, but he wasn't really tested. Houston rarely got the ball past the linebackers. He has improved significantly compared to 2011. His size is really hard to ignore. He's built much like a big WR. When looking at photos of him I was worried he might not tackle well or be physical enough. Boy was I wrong because he can lay the wood. He didn't miss a tackle either. He played somewhat conservative, but with responsibility. I think it was mostly dictated by the score. He played free and strong safety.

He gets the MHTK Seal of Approval
 
Shhhhh......

He's THE official late round binkie here.

Some more on Kyle Long. Although it looks like he's applied for one more year of eligibiilty.

1. T/G Kyle Long, Oregon; SR; 6-7, 312, 5.04: This is Howie Long's other son - the bigger, more athletic one. Let's preface this by saying Kyle has petitioned the NCAA for another year of eligibility and if it is granted, he will likely stay at Oregon. But if not, he could turn out to be a sleeper who jumps up boards based on potential. I can see him being a prudent 5th-round pick as a backup T/G.

Kyle's story is interesting. While not quite the biblical prodigal son, he strayed off into baseball for a few years because he was a left-handed pitcher with a 94mph fastball, a precious commodity in MLB. Things didn't work out as expected and he returned to football at JC powerhouse Saddleback College in Mission Viejo, CA. While there, he made the switch to LT from DE and was named all-conference. He joined the Ducks this last summer and is playing now after an ankle injury kept him out for a few games, so there is a decent amount of video available of Kyle versus good competition. The Oregon-USC game is a good tape of him.

Long has his family's size, strength, and athleticism. And you don't see many prospective LTs who are also left-handed. We don't know his arm length, but I think its safe to assume Howie would have discouraged
the position switch from DE if Kyle's arm length wasn't appropriate. He lumbers a little when on the run and looks like he could use some NFL-level conditioning and weight training.

From what video I've seen, he has quick feet and good instincts in pass pro, but he doesn't seem to bend or sit as naturally as you might like to see. Oregon's up-tempo offense calls for a lot of blocking in space, and he appears very good at that. He doesn't overpower opponents and toss them to the ground, but once he engages, he locks up and moves him in the right direction. I'll let the real scouts take it from there, but Kyle looks like he has the physical tools to project as a very good backup T/G at a minimum and perhaps a starting OT with some development, worth a mid-late round draft pick to a team willing and able to develop him for a year or two. Keep in mind he will be 25 in 2013, reducing the potential length of his career. Kyle could be another T/G like Alex Boone of the 49ers if he applies himself, or another Adam Snyder of ARZ at a minimum.
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Great Blue North Draft Report

I also like CB Steve Williams from California on that top 10 Sleeper list.
 
Some more on Kyle Long. Although it looks like he's applied for one more year of eligibiilty.

I will pray to Jesus, Moses, Zeus, and Vishnu that he gets turned down.

What kind of message would it send to give that freakin lush another year? Think about the children!
 
I checked out the Tulsa game. I liked what I saw from Dexter McCoil, but he wasn't really tested. Houston rarely got the ball past the linebackers. He has improved significantly compared to 2011. His size is really hard to ignore. He's built much like a big WR. When looking at photos of him I was worried he might not tackle well or be physical enough. Boy was I wrong because he can lay the wood. He didn't miss a tackle either. He played somewhat conservative, but with responsibility. I think it was mostly dictated by the score. He played free and strong safety.

He gets the MHTK Seal of Approval

If that's true, he could be the most underrated prospect of the draft. I still haven't seen much Tulsa film this season, but last year, he was all bone but incredibly rangy with long arms that could deflect lots of passes. He added 20lbs. If he can lay the wood, he should be a future pro bowler with terrific ball skills and athleticism
 
WalterFootball.com: 2013 NFL Draft Stock - Week 11

2013 NFL Draft Stock Up

Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

Short was a complete non-factor two weeks ago against Penn State, but he was playing with an ankle injury. Short flipped the switch last Saturday against Iowa and was utterly dominant. The Hawkeyes' interior line led by senior center James Ferentz had no answer for Short.

The senior made his presence felt early on with a tremendous play on a third-and-1. Short fired by the guard on a zone-right running play to tackle the back for a loss of one and force a punt. Short blasted by the left guard on the next drive for his second tackle for a loss.

Short started a sack late in the first half with a nice power and speed rush up the middle. He shed his block with violent hands and chased down the quarterback. Short shed a block from Ferentz in the third quarter and sped into the pocket to sack the quarterback. Again an end jumped in a second late, so Short was only credited with one sack against Iowa. He totaled six tackles, four tackles for a loss and a sack. Short was playing with phenomenal leverage. He was shedding blocks with power with great closing speed on the ball-carrier.

Short started out this season on fire before going quiet in the middle portion of the year as he dealt with the ankle injury. Short has totaled 32 tackles, 13 tackles for a loss, five sacks, three passes broken up, four blocked kicks and one forced fumble in 2012. This tape will help his cause to be a first-round pick next April.

Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia

The Mountaineers high-powered offense showed some of its early season form with a big game from Bailey. He caught 14 passes for 225 yards and one touchdown against Oklahoma State. The Cowboys have some quality cornerbacks, but they had no answer for Bailey. He burned a cornerback and safety running a deep post for a 37-yard touchdown. Bailey had a 75-yard reception on another deep post in the third quarter. It could have been an even bigger game for him since he was running free for a touchdown, but Geno Smith overthrew the pass.

Bailey is leading West Virginia this season in receiving yards and touchdowns (16) over Tavon Austin. Bailey is eighth in the nation in receiving yards with 1,055 yards on 75 receptions. The 5-foot-10, 195-pounder is undersized, but he is big enough to be a slot receiver in the NFL who is capable of taking any reception the distance. This performance will help Bailey to be a second-day pickin the 2013 NFL Draft.
 
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