Manning to Broncos

[BradyFTW!]

Demarius Thomas has suddenly become a favorite WR to draft among Fantasy Football members throughout the Planet.

As he should be, the guy's a stud.

 

[SpaceOdyssey]

I wonder how the 49ers are gonna handle the QB situation. Manning snubbed them and Smith is exploring elsewhere.

 

[Deus Irae]

Sorry buddy, you're comparing apples to oranges here. You're letting your blind hatred for Peyton cloud your judgment here, you have no idea what you're talking about...

No, I'm responding to a claim about an accurate quarterback by pointing out that having that accurate quarterback did essentially nothing for the Broncos for 2+ seasons. That has absolutely nothing to do with Manning save the notation that an accurate quarterback is not necessarily the cure (or at least the only 'cure') needed in Denver.

 

[Deus Irae]

I saw drive after drive after drive of 3 and out. He didn't turn it over, so that puts him above Palko, I guess, but that's about as high as I'm willing to go.

I can see how someone that doesn't actually watch the games and buys into the ESPN hype machine would take your view, however.

And again you continue with the stupid posts. We saw Tebow with the game winning drives. You're wasting my time and being an ass about it. Off to the ignore list with you.

 

[Deus Irae]

Team Manning about to be assembled in Denver. C Jeff Saturday has a visit scheduled. WR Brandon Stokley likely to be signed

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Also, TE Dallas Clark and/or Jacob Tamme could be brought into Denver as we

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It has begun....

 

[condon84]

Good signing by the Broncos. They went to the playoffs in spite of having Tebow back there pretending to be a QB.

Broncos have a relatively easy division to win.

San Diego has Norv to deal with. Carson didn't look good at all last year and hasn't looked good in Cincy for the past 4 years. And the Chiefs have the worst QB in the division in Cassel.

The Broncos, as horrible as Tebow is at QB, still made the playoffs. Good young talent plus Manning. If they can get Clark and Stokley in the fold, that offense is gonna be scoring points.

 

[PatriotReign]

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Wanted the Pats to look at Tamme but with Fells signed it's really a moot point now.

 

[Haterproof]

I wonder how the 49ers are gonna handle the QB situation. Manning snubbed them and Smith is exploring elsewhere.

That's what SF get for trying to be sneaky. Poor Alex Smith. 1st Harbaugh & co say they believe in him and was going to give him a bonus. They then jump in the mix for Peyton @ the last minute. Alex's confidence is shattered whether he resigns with the 49ers or not.

 

[WhiZa]

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Any idea how much cap room they have left? It should be intersting to see how the former colts play with the current broncos. I guess if any team has shown they can switch schemes quickly it would be them ( from Oroton to Tebow)

 

[Deus Irae]

Any idea how much cap room they have left? It should be intersting to see how the former colts play with the current broncos. I guess if any team has shown they can switch schemes quickly it would be them ( from Oroton to Tebow)

Manning hasn't officially signed yet, so there are no numbers to look to. 5 for 95 is about as much as I've heard in terms of possible impact, but how it's to be broken down, or if it's even to be the final breakdown, is something I've no idea about, sorry.

 

[BSR]

Good signing by the Broncos. They went to the playoffs in spite of having Tebow back there pretending to be a QB.

I'm with Deus on this one. Tebow may have received too much credit by some, but many of you are giving him far too little. That team couldn't win a game until they started Tebow. That team isn't that strong, especially at Oline.

Broncos have a relatively easy division to win.

San Diego has Norv to deal with. Carson didn't look good at all last year and hasn't looked good in Cincy for the past 4 years. And the Chiefs have the worst QB in the division in Cassel.

Cassel would be the second best in our division. That isn't an indication of a bad division. Just the opposite. There aren't any cupcakes in that division and overall Denver has a brutal schedule.

New Oline, new receivers new coaches and coming back from a significant injury...this is going to be challenge for Manning.

 

[alvinnf]

He won't have the success Montana had in KC, but it's a good move for the bronco brass who needed a way to get out from under Tebow.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

That's what SF get for trying to be sneaky. Poor Alex Smith. 1st Harbaugh & co say they believe in him and was going to give him a bonus. They then jump in the mix for Peyton @ the last minute. Alex's confidence is shattered whether he resigns with the 49ers or not.

Really? It shattered his confidence that SF might have picked up a sure-fire 1st-ballot hall of famer for a year? That did it?

A first-round draft pick struggles for years, despite the doubters, and makes it deep into the playoffs... with receivers who other than Vernon Davis seem to wear ball repellent instead of stickem on their hands, and run routes like drunk sorority girls running bar to bar on St Paddy's day... he's on a team that rides a running back whenever possible... and this shatters his confidence?

Look, if Alex Smith's confidence can put up with NFL pass rushes and the slings and arrows of the quarterback position in the city of Montana and Young, something tells me he'll survive the interest in Manning.

That's something where you throw up your hands and say "whattayagonnado?" Maybe you vow that after the old turd finally does retire, you show them all... but mainly, you just say "dude. It's peyton manning. Back to holding the clipboard."

I don't expect Alex Smith to be too heartbroken.

By the way if I was harsh on SF's receivers, my pardons... instead let's see what their offensive coordinator says ...

49ers receivers are called league's best at blocking

"I challenge anybody to find any NFL receiving corps that blocks as hard and as well as our receivers," Roman said.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Should be in the playoffs....then one and done because it's Peyton Manning.

 

[condon84]

I'm with Deus on this one. Tebow may have received too much credit by some, but many of you are giving him far too little. That team couldn't win a game until they started Tebow. That team isn't that strong, especially at Oline.



Cassel would be the second best in our division. That isn't an indication of a bad division. Just the opposite. There aren't any cupcakes in that division and overall Denver has a brutal schedule.

New Oline, new receivers new coaches and coming back from a significant injury...this is going to be challenge for Manning.

I give all the credit to the Broncos defense and their running game for their stretch of wins. You can argue that Tebow contributed to Denver's running game, but I would argue that his inability to accurately throw the ball, read coverage, and make defenses respect the passing game had a bigger negative impact than his positive contribution in the running game.

Regarding Cassel, I say no to your statement. He is not better than Fitzpatrick, and is arguable than he is as bad as Sanchez. He'll make a play or two, just like Sanchez does during the game, but does not sustain a high level of play.

Regarding Manning and his new team, it all boils down to health. If he is healthy, the Broncos win that division. If not, then they'll scrap and it'll be competitive. I think a healthy Manning is one of the all-time greats. Just like if Brady were to go to a marginal playoff team, that team would automatically become SB contenders.

 

[BSR]

I give all the credit to the Broncos defense and their running game for their stretch of wins. You can argue that Tebow contributed to Denver's running game, but I would argue that his inability to accurately throw the ball, read coverage, and make defenses respect the passing game had a bigger negative impact than his positive contribution in the running game.

Their passing game was anemic before and after Tebow started, part of it might be the system. And the running game didn't really take off for them until after Tebow started. I really don't know what you think was special about their defense. It was decent defense but hardly stifling and helped out quite a bit by a ball control offense.

Regarding Cassel, I say no to your statement. He is not better than Fitzpatrick, and is arguable than he is as bad as Sanchez. He'll make a play or two, just like Sanchez does during the game, but does not sustain a high level of play.

You can say no all you want but the same came be said about Fitzpatrick. Very up and down. Cassel still has the better numbers. At worst its a toss up between the two.

Regarding Manning and his new team, it all boils down to health. If he is healthy, the Broncos win that division. If not, then they'll scrap and it'll be competitive. I think a healthy Manning is one of the all-time greats. Just like if Brady were to go to a marginal playoff team, that team would automatically become SB contenders.

I think you are terribly underestimating the effects of being on a new team with new coaches and totally new players. Especially for a QB that had experienced more continuity his entire career than anyone. Of course he is a fantastic quarterback if he can come back to form, but I think some are putting some unreasonable expectations on him to step out onto the field and be like he was in 2009.

 

[condon84]

Their passing game was anemic before and after Tebow started, part of it might be the system. And the running game didn't really take off for them until after Tebow started. I really don't know what you think was special about their defense. It was decent defense but hardly stifling and helped out quite a bit by a ball control offense.

We'll agree to disagree about Tebow as a passer. I think he sucks. Regarding their defense, when they won games with Tebow as their QB, these are the points that they gave up: 15, 24, 10, 13, 13, 32, 10. That's 16.71 points per game. That would be top 5 in the league.

You can say no all you want but the same came be said about Fitzpatrick. Very up and down. Cassel still has the better numbers. At worst its a toss up between the two.

We'll agree to disagree on this as well. I just don't think Cassel is better than Fitzpatrick.

I think you are terribly underestimating the effects of being on a new team with new coaches and totally new players. Especially for a QB that had experienced more continuity his entire career than anyone. Of course he is a fantastic quarterback if he can come back to form, but I think some are putting some unreasonable expectations on him to step out onto the field and be like he was in 2009.

Time will tell. We will find out next year. I think they win 10-12 games, win the division, and make it to the second round of the playoffs.

 

[groganbootleg]

Denver went 4-14 over 2 years with an accurate QB. Going back to the previous season, Denver is 6-22 over the last 28 games with the 'accurate' QB.

ahhhh, now I understand..... what they needed was an INACCURATE QB to win. That makes complete sense. Thanks for the clarification

 

[Patspsycho]

schefter just tweeted: 5 years $96 million for Manning

 

[BSR]

Time will tell. We will find out next year. I think they win 10-12 games, win the division, and make it to the second round of the playoffs.

I'd predict a slow start and 9-10 wins. That may be enough to win the division, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the other teams in the division takes it with a slightly better record. I don't see the elite team that some are predicting.