Manning to Broncos

[RYObroncosfan]

I think it's safe to say that Manning was going to end up getting a deal close to $100 mil, with the devil, of course, in the details of how much is up front and how much is guaranteed; Bud Adams (Net Worth north of one billion) basically said he'd pay whatever it took to bring him on board in Nashville. So, the money was going to be about the same wherever he went.

So, why not take it?

The $28 he made while rehabbing last year is more than fair compensation for what he did for the Colts and the entire Indianapolis era.

Manning is a rare talent and I think he has every right to get paid every dime he can, especially given the violence of his chosen profession.

And THAT is the reason I'm not upset at all. Manning at 85% is better than all but maybe 5 other QBs in the league. The other pieces were coming together for us, we just really were never truly going to get anywhere with Tebow at the helm.

Plus, we had almost 40 million in cap room. I'd rather my team spend all that then hold on to half of it, wouldn't you?

The money's a lot, but for an extremely valuable QB, you can't really put a price on it in my opinion.

 

[PatsSweFan]

I don't see it...Even with the schedule I see 4-2 for us in the division, 6-4 or so at WORST out of the division.

Tough schedule for sure, but we were an accurate QB away from being pretty good last year. Address some needs in the draft, watch the young D continue to improve, etc.

I'm very much looking forward to watching Denver this year

You also had incredible amount of luck in games AND lucky to play against a bunch of back-up QBs.
Lots of young talent you guys has and now Manning, but with that schedule I see 10-6 as excellent...likely good enough to win the division however...

 

[letekro]

:bricks:

They won BECAUSE of freaking Tim Tebow at the helm.

Was it BECAUSE of his 46 percent passing, 72 QB rating, or 33 sacks in 11 starts? Maybe it was because he led them to a whopping 18.5 points per game during his starts? Maybe it was because of his cranial link to the Messiah? You are embarassing yourself even more than usual today.

 

[RYObroncosfan]

You also had incredible amount of luck in games AND lucky to play against a bunch of back-up QBs.
Lots of young talent you guys has and now Manning, but with that schedule I see 10-6 as excellent...likely good enough to win the division however...

Maybe so...but as evidenced by, well...you know...anything can happen in the playoffs. Having a solid QB puts you in a MUCH better position.

Sure, we can eke out a win in the playoffs with Tebow, but with Manning we have as good a shot as any to actually win enough to bring home the trophy.

Here's how I see this playing out: Manning, with a 5 year deal, plays at a high level for three of them. After year three, we spend a first round pick on a QB who will sit behind Manning for a year or two learning the game from one of the best, and the Broncos don't miss a beat when he retires.

In the meantime, with the QB piece figured out, we can draft and sign other players to fill some of the other holes.

So I'm optimistic, sue me...

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Manning is a rare talent and I think he has every right to get paid every dime he can, especially given the violence of his chosen profession.

Absolutely! You saw what happened to that poster's dog.

 

[Deus Irae]

Was it BECAUSE of his 46 percent passing, 72 QB rating, or 33 sacks in 11 starts? Maybe it was because he led them to a whopping 18.5 points per game during his starts? Maybe it was because of his cranial link to the Messiah? You are embarassing yourself even more than usual today.

The irony of your post is you think you're witty. 1-4 without him. 7-4 with him and a playoff win. You can post all the stupidity you wish. You won't change that simple reality.

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't see it...Even with the schedule I see 4-2 for us in the division, 6-4 or so at WORST out of the division.

Tough schedule for sure, but we were an accurate QB away from being pretty good last year. Address some needs in the draft, watch the young D continue to improve, etc.

I'm very much looking forward to watching Denver this year

Denver went 4-14 over 2 years with an accurate QB. Going back to the previous season, Denver is 6-22 over the last 28 games with the 'accurate' QB.

 

[EJ Blitz]

I don't understand why he turned down a fully loaded team in the Niners. Great weather? Great team? 95% playoff chances? Spend last years in NFL dominating? Nope, let me go to the Broncos to get abused.

 

[RYObroncosfan]

Denver went 4-14 over 2 years with an accurate QB. Going back to the previous season, Denver is 6-22 over the last 28 games with the 'accurate' QB.

If you're trying to compare Kyle Orton to Peyton Mannings, well...then...I have nothing to say to you.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Jay Glazer says three things made the decision for Manning. Elway told him at their first meeting before he even saw him throw live that they could do $95M. Then there was the matter of whose offense he would be running. Denver said his. Since he is still rehabbing it would be difficult for him to focus on learning a new one in SF while still rehabbing - something he can do simultaneously (throwing) while teaching them/installing his offense in Denver. And there really was a determination to not switch conferences to the one his younger brother is already in.

I thought people here would have understood that for him changing offenses was a non starter. Denver doesn't have an installed offense under Fox. They ran what Orton was comfortable with and then shifted to what Tebow was comfortable with last season coming off the lockout. For them the Manning offense is just what they will run going forward, and they were going to have to pick something to run no matter what.

 

[Deus Irae]

If you're trying to compare Kyle Orton to Peyton Mannings, well...then...I have nothing to say to you.

I'm responding to the "Accurate QB" argument. It's not my fault that the point you were trying to claim wasn't a valid one.

 

[letekro]

The irony of your post is you think you're witty. 1-4 without him. 7-4 with him and a playoff win. You can post all the stupidity you wish. You won't change that simple reality.

Even a dumb jock like Elway understands the difference between causation and correlation. You show again and again an inability to grasp that distinction. The soon to be non-market for Tebow's services will confirm what football people in the league think of his QB prowess.

 

[Leemo]

Denver will win fewer games next year, or at least they will go one-and-done in the playoffs, like Peyton has done often (7 times, I think?)

broken down overpaid gag artist

Jesus. You seriously must be so bitter towards Manning. The guy is one of the best QB's ever to play the game.

If your loyalty to the patriots makes you think differently then you must have serious issues.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't understand why he turned down a fully loaded team in the Niners. Great weather? Great team? 95% playoff chances? Spend last years in NFL dominating? Nope, let me go to the Broncos to get abused.

Denver installed a whole new offense during the season for Tebow, so I think it goes without saying that they'll install a new one for Manning. They pretty much have to, since nobody other than Tebow can run the offense that they were using, so might as well let Manning call the shots while you're at it. Harbaugh, OTOH, probably wouldn't, and that's probably what clinched it if I had to guess.

 

[Deus Irae]

Even a dumb jock like Elway understands the difference between causation and correlation. You show again and again an inability to grasp that distinction. The soon to be non-market for Tebow's services will confirm what football people in the league think of his QB prowess.

Again you post stupidity. There was clear causation. That's not even disputable. We saw, in fact, drive after drive of causation.

What's really funny about your posts is that you actually think you're making points.

 

[reflexblue]

With Manning signing with the Broncos and going up against the Raiders Twice a year i'd like to have one of Oaklands picks again this year.

 

[Buchanty]

Wow...i'm really suprised. I thought the 49ers were a no-brainer for him. I don't understand what the Broncos have to offer.

A few idle thoughts on a reasonable question. My first thought is that going with the Broncos is what King Archie liked best. The 49ers would have prevented both Mannings reaching the Superbowl in the same year, and Candlestick turf is not a Peyton friendly surface. The Titans don't have a lot of that commodity that shall not be named (money that is), don't really have a competitive team (worst of the 3), and don't have a reputation for giving free hand on decisions to coaches/player-coaches.

Peyton would have liked a dome but Mile High stadium has a huge advantage in its altitude, which gasses sea-level playing teams, and playing surface (Desso Grassmaster 93% grass that interweaves with 3% fiber). Not that this is true but the mischief in me suggests that the thinner air amplifies Peyton's velocity and distance. Further mischief within suggests that Peyton is hoping that some of Elway's I-won-superbowls-after-36 powder might rub off.

Mischief aside Denver is much more like Indianapolis than San Francisco - its a smaller city with highly charged fans, and Peyton can be 100% talk of the town. A decent coach and respected HF'er GM and more cap space than the others could dream of.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Demarius Thomas has suddenly become a favorite WR to draft among Fantasy Football members throughout the Planet.

 

[letekro]

Again you post stupidity. There was clear causation. That's not even disputable. We saw, in fact, drive after drive of causation.

What's really funny about your posts is that you actually think you're making points.

I saw drive after drive after drive of 3 and out. He didn't turn it over, so that puts him above Palko, I guess, but that's about as high as I'm willing to go.

I can see how someone that doesn't actually watch the games and buys into the ESPN hype machine would take your view, however.

 

[RYObroncosfan]

I'm responding to the "Accurate QB" argument. It's not my fault that the point you were trying to claim wasn't a valid one.

Sorry buddy, you're comparing apples to oranges here. You're letting your blind hatred for Peyton cloud your judgment here, you have no idea what you're talking about...