hodgey
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
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Give it time!!
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WTF is your point? I'll Take the QB over the coach.... Hopefully with a decent personnel guy. Bill Parcells had a huge imprint on the personnel in the championship years. What has our Bill done in the last 8 years? One shi**y lose to an inferior Giant team.
The New England Patriots did not get rid of Dowling. Glass-IR Dowling was placed on injured reserve.I also don't think you get rid of Bodden and Dowling back to back if you don't feel confident in what you have. To that point Adams has looked good, even as a match style corner.
Goodbye Fat Albert! Don't let the door hit your sizable arse on your way out the door! But, how is this defense going to replace him for the 2-3 plays a game he actually deemed it necessary to exert himself.
If Adams is on the New England Patriots roster next season, then the New England Patriots did not significantly improve the defensive secondary.
Allow me to rephrase, if Adams plays in the defensive secondary for the New England Patriots next season, the New England Patriots have not upgraded the defense.Why is it so hard for you to understand the concept of special teams players? If Adams is the team's #5 CB next year, is that really a bad sign?
Allow me to rephrase, if Adams plays in the defensive secondary for the New England Patriots next season, the New England Patriots have not upgraded the defense.
I seriously doubt it. I figure you're the baby in the E-Trade commercials. Nobody knows .......No, I'm old enough to not type and drink well......
Some could argue that Brady is the brand. I think Belichick was a huge part of building that brand but brands are organic and subject to shifts depending on various dynamics.
How insightful.
Those dynamics are obviously no longer there as in the early 2000's. Only a lazy brand strategist would fall back on past glory.
By past you mean last season? Let's not forget this chump has coached this team to a winning record this yr. as well. You're right though. they are 0-2 right now.
Those who do not question leadership suffer from Stockhom Syndrome.
Huh?
Leadership is more than x's and o's. It is the ability to lead. For some reason the old Patriot way of being a destination point for those that want to win is changing.
And exactly who told you this? Got some insider vet's out there on speed dial?
A good brand strategist would ask the question: why?
Why would this brand person ask why to something that isn't true?
Do you think it is important to maintain the brand identity of the New Patriots as a team that potential high impact free agents would want to play for?
I think if I'm a "brand strategist" I want to keep my stadium sold out and just win. Prize free agents sign with ****ty teams every yr. I don't understand where you are going with this.
If so, do you think the Patriots still maintain that image?
We are in the hunt as a Super Bowl contender every season. What a teams image is really depends on how a person looks at that team. Am I disappointed that we don't win a S.B. every yr.? Sure, but I also remember what it was like having no excitement for the next season knowing full well the Pats would be lucky to win 5 games. I give Brady all the credit in the world, but let's not forget who helped get him there.
If not why?
there are only a hand full of players at each position with a combination of talent and good hard work ethic in the NFL as a whole(if that).
I can't knock BB for picking a talented player with a negative past and surrounding him with a team of hardworking dedicated players coupled with the coaching knowledge to help him succeed in a 1st class organization.
Getting the best of both worlds is very rare and you have gamble at times, there are no sure winners, only in hindsight or the few no brainers everyone else is gunning for.
At this point we have a team of extremely hard workers and a bit less talent. I feel better with that than players like Haynesworthless.
That's part of the risk that comes with signing or trading for established veterans, especially ones who arrive with some baggage; they are more set in their ways, and the coach/general manager acquiring them doesn't truly know what's in their DNA. You might get a good year or two out of them, like the Patriots did with Corey Dillon in 2004 and Moss in 2007, but you also know it could end in an instant.
The Patriots signed up for that with Haynesworth, who was different from Dillon and Moss in one respect -- he had dogged it on the field in Washington, which ran counter to some of the core principles that guided Belichick's personnel decisions in past years, when catchphrases such as "football is important to him," "we're building a team, not just collecting talent" and "younger and faster" were uttered regularly.
I've never seen a team laden with talent not win.. ravens...jets...eagles...cowboys of recent... should I go on. Put Brady on any of those teams and would the result be different?
Reiss has a good analysis of what went wrong with Albert and how it was different from other BB risks that have succeeded.
Well put by Reiss. It's an especially good point after so much had been made last year about getting rid of rotten apples like Adalius and Springs and drafting all those captains in 2010. I will admit I was in the camp that said "low risk, high reward," so I can't complain too much. But I also don't think his loss will hurt this defense; he played so little and showed occasional flashes but not enough. Time to move on, see if new veterans like Carter and Anderson can help as leaders on and off the field, and get back to developing Brace and Deaderick.
Except that Moss consistently dogged it on the field, when playing for the Raiders. Also, I believe it was dogging it on the field, why we ended up trading Moss to the Vickings. And unless I am mistaken, dogging it on the field was why the Vickings released Moss a few weeks later.
The real difference was that Moss was a once in a generation type talent, while Haynesworth is not.
Allow me to rephrase, if Adams plays in the defensive secondary for the New England Patriots next season, the New England Patriots have not upgraded the defense.
I wish Ian had the stones to run this place like Bill runs his operation...zero tolerance for arrogant, ignorant bordering moronic malcontents posing as patsfans...and embarassing the few actual ones who still remain here... This place has become the message board equivalent of idiot sports talk radio.
You can't bounce posters for simple idiocy. I will say there's been a massive recent influx of Felger like 'thinkers' recently polluting the waters here.
What's especially demoralizing is the ignorant rants over cutting Haynesworth. Why criticize BB for AH? It was a low risk (salary, cap and pick) high potential reward in a situation where 2 DL were headed for PUP. I'm not happy with how BB handled his selection of defensive backs this season which is an entirely different matter but the AH move was rational risk-reward assessment that didn't work out. Only those who believe they're blessed with prescience feel differently.
So was Haynesworth cut for performance reasons, lockerroom reasons, discipline reasons, or all of the above? Haynesworth is basically the Randy Moss of DTs. All-world talent, but doesn't take advantage of it except when he feels like it. I'm a little surprised by the timing of this move, but overall can't say I'm surprised Haynesworth is gone. We don't know what was going on in the locker room, but I have a feeling AH was considered a bad influence. And thats why he was cut. BB wasn't about to allow another AD situation to happen.
Come on, PWP. There were a whole lot of people who didn't buy that even before the guy had his first press conference, and it didn't take prescience to look at the guy's past history. I'd said that it would be a good signing if he put in the effort, so I'm not claiming to be one of them. But the fact is that he apparently didn't put in the effort, and it was a lousy signing, and there were a lot of people, both on this message board and throughout the NFL community, who were saying it was a lousy move from the very beginning.