Is Brady Hurt????

[Sciz]

Welcome to the NFL, where contracts can be reconstructed. This isn't the NBA.

I realize the chances of Patriots actually trading him at the end of the year is about 10%. But I am 100% certain he will not finish his career in a Patriots uniform.

And you're telling me Brady would redo his contract if it would get him out of New England?

That 10% is absurd. Think along the lines of .000000001%.

 

[CrazyDave]

At least he's not Sanchez. lol

 

[Triumph]

The coverage dictated that Ocho break for the EZ...even Aikman said that was the mistake before we even saw Brady reaming a guy he could barely stand to make eye contact with on the sidelines.

Yet, the Ocho pubic hair flossers continue to find excuses for him.

 

[Triumph]

I did not say the Patriots SHOULD trade him without a doubt. I said they should entertain the notion of trading him. There's a difference! Especially if they miss the playoffs. You'd have to be a complete moron to not do that much.

The Pats have a big decision to make, if things continue to go south. The point isn't whether or not Brady is still good. Of course he is! He's definitely not what he once was, but even a washed up Brady is better than 90% of the league.

Even a washed up Brady is someone most of the league would love to have. Dude, the Pats are on record of being he WORST passing defense in the history of the NFL. There's no "band-aid" that's going to fix that problem. They're not on the cusp of winning a SB anytime soon.

I don't care if this in '07 Brady and the Pats offense, NO ONE can win with that garbage of a defense. Chad Henne looked like Aaron Rodgers on that defense.

Defense is still the anchor of winning championships. The Patriots are years and years away from building that caliber of a defense. We all know that.

It's only asinine to not at least consider trading a player like Brady, if things continue to get worse.

If the Pats DID trade Brady, they could speed up the re-building process, and honestly, they might end up being a contender sooner than if they stick with what they got.

I don't think anyone can look me in the face and say this is a contending football team anytime soon. They need to re-vamp their entire defensive line almost, same goes with their secondary. Haynesworth has been a flop. Wilfork is not getting any younger.

The Patriots problems won't fix itself, and one draft or two drafts aren't going to speed them to the SB anytime soon.

What weve got here is failure to communicate.

Some men you just cant reach.

 

[Paul_Newman]

And you're telling me Brady would redo his contract if it would get him out of New England?

That 10% is absurd. Think along the lines of .000000001%.

Brady wants to win. If you honestly think all his life his desire was to be a Patriot, you're mistaken. He's loyal to the franchise, but if they want to kick him out the door, he wouldn't exactly beg for them.

There's no secret he's had a long desire to play for the 49ers for example.

If Brady was traded to a contending team, why wouldn't he consider reconstructing his contract so that team could still spend money on free agents? Are you suggesting Brady's a "me-first" player?

By the way, reconstruct does not always mean "less money". Players do it all the time just so their team can afford to sign more players each year.

 

[CrazyDave]

What weve got here is failure to communicate.

Some men you just cant reach.

The Kooks have descended.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

I did notice one thing,especially in the past two games

Brady is starting to have that happy feet syndrome like Bledsoe did all those years.

I don't see the confident in the pocket passer we are used to seeing,Brady in the past would never look around the pocket and just forward to find an open receiver.

Now you see him looking left and right and it knocks his productivity off badly.

 

[RIpats88]

Yet, the Ocho pubic hair flossers continue to find excuses for him.

saying he was open and brady threw a bad pass is NOT pubic hair flossing..its reality of what I saw on my tv watching the game...unless you think that was a perfect throw into the endzone...even Mike Reiss said that throw was on brady

you can go through my posts and see that I have been very critical of Ocho and was in favor of benching him for Taylor Price or resigning Randy Moss

but im going to call it like I see it

 

[eagle eye]

You know its true. He's still a very good QB, but he's not in his prime years anymore. And he's definitely not hurt, that's beyond laughable to suggest that is why he's struggling.

Admit it Pat fans. I like Brady a lot too, he's been a great QB, probably the best in this era, but you're all in denial if you still think he's an elite QB. I'd love someone to tell me with a straight face he's in Aaron Rodgers' league. Heck, I think Drew Brees is even better than Tommy right now.

He's lost a lot on his throws, he's become very sporadic. Brady of old would NOT be missing some of those easy throws. He's not getting any better, his best years are far behind him.

And truthfully, he's become easily rattled.

It's time to start building this team around other parts, and not one guy. Get a better running game, and improve that pathetic defense.

No one stays at the top of their game forever. Time to stop denying it and just accept it.

Don't expect Brady to rebound next week. I expect another multiple pick game, and a very average performance. The Patriots should consider the future, because their window is closed.

Brady should have had 4 picks in the Giants game. He was awful, and only showed a tiny glimpse of his former self.

He has a 100.9 QB rating to this point in the season. He is averaging 338 ypg, 66% completion rate, 2.5 td passes per game. His is averaging 2 tds to every 1 int. These are all elite level stats. If you remember he started the season on fire, better than ever before I believe. Whats been happening has been going on for 3 games now, the receivers have to take some of the blame. I think the fact that teams now realise there is no deep threat is causing the problem.

 

[Paul_Newman]

He has a 100.9 QB rating to this point in the season. He is averaging 338 ypg, 66% completion rate, 2.5 td passes per game. His is averaging 2 tds to every 1 int. These are all elite level stats. If you remember he started the season on fire, better than ever before I believe. Whats been happening has been going on for 3 games now, the receivers have to take some of the blame. I think the fact that teams now realise there is no deep threat is causing the problem.

I appreciate the response, instead of the typical "trolling response" to what I've mention.

Brady is still a really, really good QB. You'd have to be nuts to think otherwise. However, he's on the clear decline. I don't care what his stats suggest, he's not able to do some of things Brady a few years ago could do. Hey, the man is 34! I'm not blaming him for being human.

He's not to the point where he's not worth keeping. That's not my entire point. My point being at 34 years old, and a team not worthy of competing right now, and probably not in the near future. You have to start asking yourself a very hard question at this point.

At the end of the season, after evaluating the roster, the question of trading Brady has to at least come into equation. It doesn't mean you absolutely have to do it. It's a decision you don't just make overnight. It's something that needs quite a bit of thought and consideration before you even think about doing it.

There's nothing so outrageous about that. If this was Tom Brady at 29, obviously it would be crazy. Tom Brady is not getting any younger. That's a fact.

 

[LetsGoPats36]

The best way to protect Brady's health would be dismissing Matt Light after this year.

 

[LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady]

Brady's not injured and he doesn't need to be traded.

Clearly, the ppl hating are either bandwagon riders and trying to jump on the 'very overrated' Aaron Rodgers wagon or just Jets fans.

1st- Yes the refs cheated the Patriots, I'm gonna stand by that, 100%.

I believe I saw a Giant fumble during the kick-off on a drive before the last TD drive, where the ref ruled the player down by contact(BS). The pass inteference call on Arrington was straight up BS. It looked more like Offensive Interference, but the NFL and refs had to try and rebuild the SB moment for the Giants for some reason. The fumble call on Brady, was an incomplete pass, his arm was obviously going forward and the ball was coming out. I'm just gonna assume that the refs had bet on the Giants to win that game and had to make them win, with these obvious cheats.

2ndly - Tom Brady has been off the last few games, but it's not just him, it's his recievers who forget how to catch and his O-line, that is failing to block properly. Tom Brady in the 4th quarter of the last 3 games, has been nearly perfect, he's been completely unaware of the pressure or how horrible his o-line plays -- so spare me the Brady getting happy feet BS, since the Pollard hit for another day. As much as he was being knocked around behind the line, who could blame him for rushing a few plays, I'm not gonna lie, I thought he was gonna be sacked on nearly every play. Good thing, he was great enough to get the ball out.

Onto Aaron Rodgers -- He continues on his streak of beating no good teams or defenses and I'm still unimpresssed. Are we really gonna overrate Aaron Rodgers for doing something that Brady already did (much better by the way) against the Chargers? The only thing I was impressed by was Philip Rivers, the guy was handing GB the game while still shredding the very overrated GB defense.

It's very unfortunate some of you so-called Patriots fans are really gonna trash Brady for going against competitive defenses, even with getting cheated by refs, still putting his team in a position to win, while overrating and praising Aaron Rodgers for crushing teams who aren't beating anybody else this season. Shame. Really.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

The fumble call on Brady, was an incomplete pass, his arm was obviously going forward and the ball was coming out.

Try googling on "open hand rule".

 

[TriplecHamp]

Brady's not injured and he doesn't need to be traded.

Clearly, the ppl hating are either bandwagon riders and trying to jump on the 'very overrated' Aaron Rodgers wagon or just Jets fans.

1st- Yes the refs cheated the Patriots, I'm gonna stand by that, 100%.

stopped reading here

 

[Dutchmaster617]

The Brady fumble was clearly a fumble, I didn't want it to happen but It was never debatable.

 

[Tunescribe]

I'll simply say it: he's washed up. He's not hurt, he's just damaged goods.

His days of being an elite QB are over.

Please go back to your playpen at JI or GG and leave us alone. We're discussing football here.

 

[RayClay]

A hurt psyche since Bernard Pollard. When there is pressure around him he becomes inaccurate and makes bad decisions. When there is no pressure, he is still the Brady of old, but what made him so great in the SB years was his unflappable manner in the pocket. Those days are gone and I don't know if we'll see them return.

Nothing our increasingly high priced offensive line doing their freakin jobs won't cure.

 

[RayClay]

I'll simply say it: he's washed up. He's not hurt, he's just damaged goods.

His days of being an elite QB are over.

Nothing is not a cool hand around here. Get back in the box.:bricks:

 

[Silver Blue&Red]

I'm the first one to throw a tantrum when we lose. It helps me deal with it. But I get over it. We as fans HAVE GOT to stand behind our team. This is when they need it the most. I mean, how do you think TB feels when the crowd is booing and jeering? I really feel sorry for him. They are having a slump. We still are in the running dispite a not so great team. But this team can do it. We need to rally behind them. We'd all be crying like babies if TB left. Lets not be spoiled brats. If TB ever read these forums he'd probably beat feet outta bean town. I wouldn't want anyone else leading this team, bad or good! Go PATS!:rocker:

 

[Paul_Newman]

Nothing is not a cool hand around here. Get back in the box.:bricks:

He is washed up. For Tom Brady standards, he's not the same. Although washed up Tom Brady is still better than 90% of the league. Geez, is it really that hard to understand what I'm saying.

I feel like I'm just talking to a bunch of Tom Brady fan boys, instead of intelligent New England football fans.

I am a HUGE fan of his. I like Tom a lot. He's still good, but you guys are in denial if you still think he's the Brady of old. He's 34. He's lost velocity on his deep ball. He's become surprisingly inaccurate.

I'm seeing the same things I started to see in Peyton last year. Simple mechanics that aren't the same.

I don't know why we can't nitpick on Brady a bit. I hold him to a much higher regard, than someone like Jay Cutler.

If we're going to drool over everything good he does, then it's only fair to criticize him when he's making a lot of mistakes that's not typical of Tom Brady.

You can't have it both ways. You can't put him as one of the greatest ever in one breath, then make excuses when he's simply playing pretty mediocre football.

The last three games he's been rather blah. Although the Cowboys game, I admit, he was pretty good in the second half. I'm just seeing him make a lot of mistakes that's uncharacteristic of him.

You got to wake and realize Brady is human. I'm sorry, I'm starting to see some serious red flags in his game that suggest he's on the decline.

It might be hard to accept, but no one stays on top forever. He's still a VERY GOOD QB, but an elite QB? Those days are coming to an end.