I'm just here to talk football, whether it be about the Jets, Pats or whoever. I like to talk to rival fans and learn more about their teams and vice versa if interested. Example was the Tom Brady harping on leadership article. After talking to Andy, I have a better understanding of what Brady meant because I got information from a different point of view. I don't think theres anything wrong with other fans coming to other boards as long as it isn't for the purpose of trolling.
Agreed but at the same time hes going to be in a very similar situation to 2007 so I think it is relevant. Playing in a defense that puts tons of pressure on the QB in a press man to man scheme is the same as his defense in 2007 only this Jets D is better and he will be playing #2s opposite Revis instead of #1s. He's only 25 years old its not like he has declined physically where he cannot duplicate his past success. The change in scheme from man to man to zone and Merriman falling off contributed in a big way to his off years.
Butler is going into his 2nd year versus Cromartie being a former all pro. Based on the statistics I provided, they produced similar coverage numbers. The difference is Cromartie was facing starters for a majority of the season and Butler facing #3 WRs. So the edge goes to Cromartie without even factoring in his amazing athleticism and size. Hes much bigger, faster, quicker and more agile then Butler. It is what it is. Maybe Butler is a ballhawk right now or may be developing into one, but Cromartie has displayed eye popping plays and put up some big numbers whereas Butlers numbers don't exactly set the world on fire. I don't think its crazy to go with someone more proven then a player who is going into his 2nd year. At least you can say Cromartie has done it before while Butler never has. However you did build my interest in him. I will definitely watch out for him when a Patriots game is on.
Profootballfocus.com....I definitely recommend it. Overall the site is pretty accurate about most things and very detailed. They do some things differently, example they do not count INTs as pass deflections like the NFL so some numbers may be slightly different. One of the biggest things I appreciate from the site is its analysis on offensive linemen, since we have no way of really judging them other then watching them play. Check it out.
Your analysis of Cromartie is just flat out wrong.
First you are saying how great his ball skills are based on what happened 3 years ago and ignoring that he has a TOTAL of 5 ints in the last 2 years.
You said last year was an off year, but by the stats you chose it was his best:
2009 48/84/590/2/3/72.0
2008 67/102/869/4/2/97.2
2007 23/41/270/1/9/44.8 but that rating is cut in half by ints
and in 2007 he only played in 8 reg season games and 400 snaps, (92 vs Indy) a lot as a NICKEL in zone not a man to man corner covering the #1.
You keep saying he had 10 Ints? Your source shows 7 reg season and 2 postseason.
The real fact is everything you can say about the guy is basically he picked off Manning 3 times in a game 3 years ago. Go get Ty Law too then.
I dont know where you are getting your info on Cromartie but its all backward. Including the laughable idea that he will be better in a risky man scheme when he is averse to contact and has never show man coverage skills.
BTW, be careful with Profootballfocus, there is no proof of the validity of their stats, and the conclusions they offer are weak.
Oh and by the way, proffotballfocus grades Cromartie at 56th among all corners, that is among the worst 9 starters, and he ranked 113 in 2008.
