Could more outstanding play of BJGE possibly be Maroney's ticket out of town?

[Ring 6]

For posterity sake (to refer back to next year) I will state my opinion.
It is RIDICULOUS to think that BJGE filling in as the 5th option at RB and doing OK will cause him to surpass the starter who is injured.
Maroney got injured, he did not lose his job. The fan disdain for Maroney is remarkable to me, unwarranted and off the mark.

 

[Patslifer]

For posterity sake (to refer back to next year) I will state my opinion.
It is RIDICULOUS to think that BJGE filling in as the 5th option at RB and doing OK will cause him to surpass the starter who is injured.
Maroney got injured, he did not lose his job. The fan disdain for Maroney is remarkable to me, unwarranted and off the mark.

It's not just the fans.....Josh called out Maroney in an article. SloMo is gonzo.

 

[Ring 6]

It's not just the fans.....Josh called out Maroney in an article. SloMo is gonzo.

can you give me a link

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

For posterity sake (to refer back to next year) I will state my opinion.
It is RIDICULOUS to think that BJGE filling in as the 5th option at RB and doing OK will cause him to surpass the starter who is injured.
Maroney got injured, he did not lose his job. The fan disdain for Maroney is remarkable to me, unwarranted and off the mark.

Aside from a few decent games late last season (and much of it was due to the fact that defenses laid back to guard against the pass) - What have you seen from Maroney with the exception of a few flashes that makes you think he is anything more than garbage and one of the worst #1 picks in NE history?

He is injury prone and cannot take a direct hit,He does not bounce off defenders - Does not have the vision it takes for an elite runner and hesitates north to south way too much

BB and Pioli don't make alot of mistakes in the draft but they fu(ked up BIG time in round 1 of 2006 there instead of grabbing Addai or Jones-Drew ect;

Off course with Maroney lovers, its always the excuse that the OL was not playing well or LoMo was playing injured.

If the OL was so good as people say last season, Maroney should still have had something near a 1,000 yard rushing season - didn't happen

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

For posterity sake (to refer back to next year) I will state my opinion.
It is RIDICULOUS to think that BJGE filling in as the 5th option at RB and doing OK will cause him to surpass the starter who is injured.
Maroney got injured, he did not lose his job. The fan disdain for Maroney is remarkable to me, unwarranted and off the mark.

By the way,in case you forgot in 2001 it was a 4th QB on the roster that came in to replace the injured starter and we all know what happened there ....

 

[Joker]

Andy...the undercover Jets fan must be referring to this article from the Globe...

Is Maroney's shoulder a burden - The Boston Globe

 

[Deus Irae]

Aside from a few decent games late last season (and much of it was due to the fact that defenses laid back to guard against the pass) - What have you seen from Maroney with the exception of a few flashes that makes you think he is anything more than garbage and one of the worst #1 picks in NE history?

He is injury prone and cannot take a direct hit,He does not bounce off defenders - Does not have the vision it takes for an elite runner and hesitates north to south way too much

BB and Pioli don't make alot of mistakes in the draft but they fu(ked up BIG time in round 1 of 2006 there instead of grabbing Addai or Jones-Drew ect;

Off course with Maroney lovers, its always the excuse that the OL was not playing well or LoMo was playing injured.

If the OL was so good as people say last season, Maroney should still have had something near a 1,000 yard rushing season - didn't happen

1.) Maroney carried the ball 175 times in 2006 and 185 in 2007, and both those numbers are more than Jones-Drew carried it in those same seasons (166 and 167). Addai carried for 226 and 261, and he already seems to be feeling the effects of those carries.

2.) Joseph Addai is averaging 3.1 ypc this season, and has been injured to one degree or another the past 2 seasons, missing games in both.

3.) Maroney has a career average of 4.3 ypc. Addai has a career average of 4.2 ypc. Jones-Drew has the highest ypc of the three at 4.9 ypc, but not surprisingly, he's down to 4.2 this season now that his offensive line is not getting it done as well as it has in the past.

Facts.... not excuses.

 

[Wretch]

What have you seen from Maroney with the exception of a few flashes that makes you think he is anything more than garbage and one of the worst #1 picks in NE history?

Chris Canty, Trevor Mattich, Reggie Dupard, Tebucky Jones, Hart Lee Dykes, Andy Katzenmoyer, Chris Singleton, and Eugene Chung all say hello.

I might actually add Ben Watson to the list too. Ben is a great talent that hasn't lived up to his potential.

 

[Va_Pats_Fan]

For posterity sake (to refer back to next year) I will state my opinion.
It is RIDICULOUS to think that BJGE filling in as the 5th option at RB and doing OK will cause him to surpass the starter who is injured.
Maroney got injured, he did not lose his job. The fan disdain for Maroney is remarkable to me, unwarranted and off the mark.

It was also RIDICULOUS for us to think a 4th string QB would get the starter's job over a 1st round starter that was injured, but it happened.

If there is one thing I have learned from watching the pats over the BB years is he is a good judge of value. Who is a better value, BJGE, (who may not be the athlete or pure talent of Kool-aid) on a rook min salary, or LoMo, oft hurt and higher paid.

Pure talent wise, LoMo is the winner...value wise...not so sure.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

If BB and company don't like Maroney's style, they have nobody to blame but themselves. They knew his running style before they drafted him. They changed the offensive line's blocking style to something the o-linemen aren't particularly adept at and, as a result, teams are often playing "meet me in the backfield" on any running play that's not designed as a quick hitter. Furthermore, the run calls don't play to Maroney's strengths, which are speed and quickness, but instead keep him inside the tackles, which is absolutely moronic given his struggles with injury at the NFL level.

Having a system is all well and good, but running backs rarely change styles successfully. Otis Anderson is the exception, not the rule.

Also, as a last thing: if these comments really are a dig at Maroney, that pretty much tosses the argument of so many here that New England doesn't criticize its players in public.

Bingo. Not to mention the last time folks read between the lines here they convinced themselves that Gutierrez was the #2 because sources said the Pat's loved him...and of course that meant Cassel was toast...because after all they drafted a QB in the 3rd which spoke volumes...:blahblah:

 

[DefenseRules]

Bingo. Not to mention the last time folks read between the lines here they convinced themselves that Gutierrez was the #2 because sources said the Pat's loved him...and of course that meant Cassel was toast...because after all they drafted a QB in the 3rd which spoke volumes...:blahblah:

It just goes to show that some of us fans are not that smart.
(yes, I'm including myself in that comment)

 

[Displaced - Fan]

How long did it take for Maroney to have a 100 yard game?

BJGE has more talent IMO - It has just taken an injury from Lawrence for him to show his stuff on the field and in a REAL game,not practice and yes,The OL is playing much better but good RBs find ways to get free and make thier own holes when there aren't any- Hopefully this will be the case for BJGE in future games.

I am not putting Ellis in the HOF but I like what I see so far and could not say that or feel that when LoMo was in there - -Just my two cents .....

Accually it took an injury from Lawrence, Morris and Jordan for BJGE to even see the field. Since the OL has been playing better Morris had a record 138 yards in 1 half before being injured. More in 1 half than BJGE has done in a whole game. BJGE has done a good job as a replacement, but has a long way to go before he's the future starter for anyones team.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

1.) Maroney carried the ball 175 times in 2006 and 185 in 2007, and both those numbers are more than Jones-Drew carried it in those same seasons (166 and 167). Addai carried for 226 and 261, and he already seems to be feeling the effects of those carries.

2.) Joseph Addai is averaging 3.1 ypc this season, and has been injured to one degree or another the past 2 seasons, missing games in both.

3.) Maroney has a career average of 4.3 ypc. Addai has a career average of 4.2 ypc. Jones-Drew has the highest ypc of the three at 4.9 ypc, but not surprisingly, he's down to 4.2 this season now that his offensive line is not getting it done as well as it has in the past.

Facts.... not excuses.

Addai was good enough to make the Pro Bowl in 1 of his first 3 seasons - If Maroney ever makes it to Hawaii,its because he is on vacation with his family

 

[Displaced - Fan]

Chris Canty, Trevor Mattich, Reggie Dupard, Tebucky Jones, Hart Lee Dykes, Andy Katzenmoyer, Chris Singleton, and Eugene Chung all say hello.

I might actually add Ben Watson to the list too. Ben is a great talent that hasn't lived up to his potential.

I wouldn't put Katzenmoyer on this list myself. He showed some great promise until his neck injury, which put him out of football.

 

[Deus Irae]

Addai was good enough to make the Pro Bowl - If Maroney ever makes it to Hawaii,its because he is on vacation with his family

Addai made the Pro Bowl last season, with a 4.1 ypc. Maroney outplayed him in terms of rushing, and finished with a higher ypc (4.5).

Again, I'm pointing out facts rather than excuses. On the other hand, you had a smartass retort that led to followup information which further undercut your argument. Well done!

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Addai made the Pro Bowl last season, with a 4.1 ypc. Maroney outplayed him in terms of rushing, and finished with a higher ypc (4.5).

Again, I'm pointing out facts rather than excuses. On the other hand, you had a smartass retort that led to followup information which further undercut your argument. Well done!

So if you are a stats fanatic then the fact that Manning has better yardage passing and more TDs in the same time frame as Brady since 2001 makes Manning a better QB right?

Stats never tell the whole picture

 

[Deus Irae]

So if you are a stats fanatic then the fact that Manning has better yardage passing and more TDs in the same time frame as Brady since 2001 makes Manning a better QB right?

Stats never tell the whole picture

Brady has the most important stats of all....

3 Super Bowl wins
4 Super Bowl appearances
5 AFCCG appearances
14-3 postseason record with an 88 passer rating and a 26/12 TD/INT ratio

vs. Manning's

1 Super Bowl win
2 AFCCG appearances
7-7 postseason record with an 84.4 passer rating and a 21/17 TD/INT ratio

Meanwhile, in the Pro Bowl season that you're pimping for Addai, Maroney was the better runner. Addai had more carries and a lot more receptions.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

By the way,in case you forgot in 2001 it was a 4th QB on the roster that came in to replace the injured starter and we all know what happened there ....

In case you forgot, previous to Moe Lewis' MVP hit, BB had already designated Brady as the #2 QB for the NEP based on his pre-season play. We only carried 3 QBs that 2001 season.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Chris Canty, Trevor Mattich, Reggie Dupard, Tebucky Jones, Hart Lee Dykes, Andy Katzenmoyer, Chris Singleton, and Eugene Chung all say hello.

I might actually add Ben Watson to the list too. Ben is a great talent that hasn't lived up to his potential.

Two words

Kenneth Simms

Not just a #1, THE #1

What do Kenny Simms and Dolly Parton have in common?

 

[PatsFan2]

Two words

Kenneth Simms

Not just a #1, THE #1

What do Kenny Simms and Dolly Parton have in common?

Hmmm? Hmmm? they both have big busts?