Fair Weather Fans are Good

[PatriotsReign]

i've probably been a fan of the pats as long as anybody and i've stuck with them thru thick and thin, that's just how i am with the pats, b's, c's and sox.


i think everybody should decide for themselves what type of fan they want to be but fair weather fan is a more apt description of padre, charger fan. i think the op is more of a conscientious objector. that implies a more conscious decision.

Excellent points! I can't debate anything you said here because it's true.

 

[PatriotsReign]

There are a lot of people who only root for winning teams. They are fair weather fans, and the name doesn't bother them.

But they are only fans when they are rooting for and following the team.

And fans is too strong a word. Fan is a shortening of the word Fanatic. If you can be calm and logical and not follow your team, then you are hardly fanatic about it.

Fanatics say, "Wait until next year. We signed xxx and drafted yyy. Boy, I can't wait."

Fair weather "fans" say, "Yawn. Wake me up when you are certan they will win the superbowl. Until I don't want to waste my time."

Fanatic Fans find you amusing and leave you to the face-saving exercises and rationalizations in which you indulge yourself. We snicker.

Fair weather fans are NOT good for the team, as you say. The team - the players - benefits from people cheering them one. You are disrespecting the players and using the self-delusional concept that it is for the good of the owner's or some such b.s.

One thing is for sure. There are a LOT more "fans" around now than there were in 2000. And many of them are getting disatisfied because we haven't
won a championship in years. "If we don't win, then what is the point of being a fan?" you say.

I agree. I fully support your going away.

You're absolutely entitled to your opinion, although so far, you're in the minority.

I think Tuckeverlasting said it best;

"i think everybody should decide for themselves what type of fan they want to be but fair weather fan is a more apt description of padre, charger fan. i think the op is more of a conscientious objector. that implies a more conscious decision."

Either way, you're no more of Patriots fan than I am. I've followed the Patriots since the late 1960's and I love them as much as anyone. If fans continue to be fanatical when & if ownership fails to do their job, they'd be foolish. After all, what is there to be fanatical about a 3-13 team. So I'm not going anywhere...are YOU?

 

[castlelong1]

Do you have some information you would like to share with the rest of us? The Patriots play in Foxboro, MA - I figured a real fan would know that.

Moron,

Did you follow the team before 2001? Everyone knows they almost moved to St. Louis pre-Kraft. Only a poser like you would not know that.

 

[castlelong1]

This is blatantly false. The Garden has never been as empty as the last few years. Jacobs makes money on concessions for both the Bruins and the Celtics, and he's already one of the 100 wealthiest men in the United States. The Bruins are a drop in the bucket for him.

Boston is rife with fair-weather fans. It is not, in any way, shape, or form, a compliment.

Primetime,

Are you from Boston? Do you know any Bruins fans who year after year got hosed? No more loyal fan base ever. I'd rather not the Patriots become the Bruins of the NFL.

Besides, he did not claim Bruins fans were fickle. His point was they were "true" fans who got taken advantage of. I understood it.

 

[castlelong1]

Not really Richie,

Listen kid, I've been a Patriots fan since before you were born. My real point is that we are all fair weather fans to a point. Of course, there are different degrees of it.

When any professional sports team experiences a deep decline in performance for an extended period of time, most fans interest wanes. A "Good" owner will respond to the resulting drop in revenue by doing all he can to improve his team.

Kraft was not going to go to CT because of FWF's nor did he stay in Foxboro because of die-hard fans. That threat was purely political & you should know that...oh, wait, you were just a kid, huh?

You can make your points til you're blue in the face, I know I'm right. It takes just as much courage to stop watching a team you love than it does to continue to support a franchise whose owners have become irresponible.

It takes more. It is the brave 1994 Bruins fans that admitted that 1972 was 22 years past. I realize this should be edited for richpats. The Bruins were good in 1972.

 

[castlelong1]

So it takes a lot of courage....to be a coward? Cowardly behavior is the key to being a fairweather fan. Simply because you can't stand watching your team lose. Don't spin it like you are actually improving things. You are just a little spineless being that doesn't want to be associated with an "ordinary" team.

Wow, are you stupid. What is braver?

at Bruins game in 1994:

A) Woohoo Bruins! Your turning the corner!

B) Woohoo Bruins! That corner you started on in 1975 is almost behind you.

Keep in mind there are "true" fans as bright as you all around.

 

[castlelong1]

Yes, I didn't use intelligence in answering a purely hypothetical question. Shame on me.

Asshat richpats,

Before Kraft the team almost moved to St. Louis. Assuming you were a fan since, say, 1976, would continue to be a fan of the St. Louis Patriots?

That is a direct question, you fool.

By the way you protest and don't know ANY team history, I assume you are a post 2001 bandwagon jumper.

OK, let's tailor it for you. Let's say in 2002 they trade Brady. No more Super Bowls. BB is fired after 2005. Are you a Patriots fan?

I would be, but I would not watch the religiously. I don't buy stuff. Would you still?

Pretend you have testicles and answer. You know, answering a direct question would be nice as a change of pace.

 

[castlelong1]

What you said, in summary, is that you abandon your "favorite" team when they are doing poorly and then come back full-force when they are doing well, then rationalize that your fan vacation helped things out. You are saying that you will only support a winning team and not just YOUR team.

FAIRWEATHER FANS ARE THE WORST.

Are you young or an idiot? Bruins "true" fans enabling mediocrity are the best. Really? That's you point?

 

[castlelong1]

Nothing happened. The team still isn't very good. Oh, they're getting better, but that's more to do with the GM and coaching staff than ownership, and certainly not to do with any message shown by lack of butts in the seats. Jacobs has sucked for decades, and he'll continue to suck. The Bruins aren't making him half as much money as the Celtics are, and he doesn't even own the Celtics. He does get those wonderful concession sales for their sell-out home playoff games though.

What happened is the Bruins tried and failed as opposed to pretending to try, but not really.

 

[castlelong1]

Why would they warn me? Because I'm right?

Because when you start with that language even the grown ups are dragged down to your "special" level.

 

[castlelong1]

Haha, do you know how many times you and others have resorted to name-calling? How many warnings did you receive? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Wow you are stupid. I don't think I've read him calling you names. That was me.

 

[castlelong1]

This thread just sucks.

yet for some reason you posted.

"Can't... control... hand... must... type... reply."

 

[alvinnf]

People who question or actually care about the level of someone else's fandom are more than likely two things.

1 NOT SURE ABOUT THIER OWN FANDOM.

2 IGNORRANT.

One should'nt care about what someone thinks or the intensity of which they think it, unless they can find a way to think it for them.........

 

[castlelong1]

I apologize for stooping to richpats level. My mistake for taking him off of ignore. I would like to say I won't make that mistake again, but my crystal ball is broken.

 

[castlelong1]

Now you really do sound like an idiot.

My apologies to "true" fans. Being enablers does not make you as stupid as Richpats. Blaming the enabler for the actions of the one taking advantage of them is like blaming the victim.

I was rushed, but that is no excuse. I should have been clearer.

richpats is the idiot.

 

[PatriotsReign]

My apologies to "true" fans. Being enablers does not make you as stupid as Richpats. Blaming the enabler for the actions of the one taking advantage of them is like blaming the victim.

I was rushed, but that is no excuse. I should have been clearer.

richpats is the idiot.

Wow castlelong, you've said everything I've wanted to say to RP and more!

Good man!

 

[richpats]

Wow castlelong, you've said everything I've wanted to say to RP and more!

But you never have the courage......

 

[richpats]

My apologies to "true" fans. Being enablers does not make you as stupid as Richpats. Blaming the enabler for the actions of the one taking advantage of them is like blaming the victim.

I was rushed, but that is no excuse. I should have been clearer.

richpats is the idiot.

The guy with 237 posts is clearly the authority on the subject of fandom

 

[Joker]

Once again, since you showed up here...Hi Jet fan!

 

[richpats]

You don't need to be a Jet fan to tell that the Patriots have some ******ed fairweather fans.