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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Brady had the #1 offense of ALL TIME. He will not pout and want to leave because Moss wants to leave. I want Moss as much as anyone, but many of the posts are may over the top. BTW, I think that RT Jake Long would be worth as much to Brady in 2008 as Moss.
BTW, how much should we offer to pay Moss in guaranteed dollars?
1) Please post yards and catches for Moss in the playoffs.
2) Please post how many games that you think we would have lost in the playoffs if we didn't have Moss.
3) Please post how many games we would have lost during the year without Moss, and would we have lost HFA?
T.O., Moss, Crayton and Terry Glenn....now THAT'S a scary 4 wide set
Brady had the #1 offense of ALL TIME. He will not pout and want to leave because Moss wants to leave. I want Moss as much as anyone, but many of the posts are may over the top. BTW, I think that RT Jake Long would be worth as much to Brady in 2008 as Moss.
BTW, how much should we offer to pay Moss in guaranteed dollars?
1) Please post yards and catches for Moss in the playoffs.
2) Please post how many games that you think we would have lost in the playoffs if we didn't have Moss.
3) Please post how many games we would have lost during the year without Moss, and would we have lost HFA?
I hear you, and I'm sure there's truth to that. But I have to say, there was a part of me that didn't like how Brady and Moss were ALWAYS sitting next to each other on the bench.....in a sense, it seemed to detract from his leadership of the whole team.
Eh, I'm sure they should sign him...
"That was my agent,” Welker said, "and New England has made me their No. 1 priority to secure me in the off-season.”
Then, he told his dad about the money.
Five years, $18.1 million.
"You've got to be kidding me,” his dad said.
Because the news couldn't get out without jeopardizing the deal — and because his mom was in another room painting — the Welker men celebrated $18.1 million as quietly as possible. They high-fived, then hugged, then high-fived some more.
1) Please post yards and catches for Moss in the playoffs.
2) Please post how many games that you think we would have lost in the playoffs if we didn't have Moss.
3) Please post how many games we would have lost during the year without Moss, and would we have lost HFA?
One could certainly argue that not having Moss for the Super Bowl would have resulted in different game plans by both teams, and might have resulted in a New England victory. It's simply unknowable.
Brady had the #1 offense of ALL TIME. He will not pout and want to leave because Moss wants to leave.
I want Moss as much as anyone, but many of the posts are may over the top. BTW, I think that RT Jake Long would be worth as much to Brady in 2008 as Moss.
BTW, how much should we offer to pay Moss in guaranteed dollars?
1) Please post yards and catches for Moss in the playoffs.
2) Please post how many games that you think we would have lost in the playoffs if we didn't have Moss.
3) Please post how many games we would have lost during the year without Moss, and would we have lost HFA?
Give him whatever is reasonable and fits under the cap, I can't speak for his $ demand.
Wow people, you guys a little over the top much? Franchising Randy was NOT an option, we've all seen what an unhappy Randy Moss behaves like.
You can't hold that on Moss. The Pats showed up to a fist fight with a rifle, but decided to use it as a decoy instead. I really think Moss was mis-used in the playoffs, particularly the Super Bowl. They over-valued his decoy value and or his deep value and underestimated his value as a weapon. Once they shortened his routes in the 4th quarter, things started moving again.
And if his $ demand is not "reasonable"?
1) 7 catches, dunno about yardage
2) Easy, one game, the AFC title game at Indy (see below)
3) 3 games, one at Indy, 2 out of Philly/Balt/NYG and we would have lost HFA to Indy by virtue of the reg-season loss
Moss was the sole reason we were even thinking of perfection, and it came down to him saving our asses in Indy. That D was killing us WITH Moss, and he stepped up bigtime. I think we tried to hard to get him the ball deep in the SB, instead of focusing on manageable short-to-mid-range passes.
Give him whatever is reasonable and fits under the cap, I can't speak for his $ demand.
That's for sure....which one would give up the #81?Zero...ZERO...chance of Moss playing on the same team as Owens.
I'm not holding anything on Moss. I was just answering the question as honestly as I can. Without Moss, the Patriots would have used a different game plan by necessity. The Giants would also have used a different game plan. The outcome of such changes is unknowable.
Tell that to Richard Seymour. Usually, when the pats have a player that makes everyone around him better, they are willing to pony up.Just one question. Should the Patriots have waited to jigger Donte Stallworth until after Randy Moss was under contract?
Did they really have to remind Randy of just how tenuous the Patriot's commitment is to a player once his cap numbers climb?
Why would any free agent in his right mind want to sign on with the Pats given their propensity for offering contracts that pay bupkus the first year then escalate? Don't they know that the 2nd year is worthless? Don't they know that the Patriots are just looking to bleed them dry, then toss them aside?
A player only has so many years to make his money. Playing for the Patriots wastes one of those years.
Ken