VinnyPatrollie

[QUOTE=Rexorcism;1873808]How can you classify a player as superior if he's at home pouting about his contract vs. those busting their butts in camp?

Hard to "work on your craft" without your teammates around you. Not to mention having no clue what new schemes the coaches may have wanted to add this year. (After all, why change what worked so well last year? It's not like opposing coaches can watch last season's film and come up with ways to scheme against the Jest's D)

Jabba Wrecks gave Revis a "Get out of Jail Free Card" by announcing to the national media that Revis can wait out all of training camp and still start. Inspired leadership there.

I don't believe there's any hate here for the Jests. When they become relevant then they may deserve some hate, but not now.

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Don't confuse Pats fan's laughter from all things Jests as hate. As always, it's the highest form of entertainment in the slow off-season. The real fun starts after 3-4 games into the season when the Green Beans crash and burn as usual.

efin98

Nah, it was an unintentional Freudian Slip

Gunnails, you know you are beloved here so don't take this thread to heart- it was really meant for the other Jesters not you

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italia44

Can you buy an apostrophe?.....lets go to the tape of Bill Belichick's incisive breakdown of Vanna White's rookie season.

tzaf75

like i said we dont know anything...just like you didnt know until now that the Jets GM talk to Revis and his people at 11pm last night...
i think you guys are putting too much into it and talking about issues you have no knowledge of(like when they talked and about what)

Rob0729

Seriously, what does that mean? Rich Cimini reported this and substance of the conversation is unknown. For all we know, the negotiations are no further than they were before that call. In fact, there is a possibility that Revis' camp could even be more entrenched into the hold out. You hope that conversation was the beginning of an end of the Revis hold out, but it could have done nothing to get the two sides closer.

From Cimini's article:

2010 NFL training camps: Darrelle Revis not in New York Jets camp, Rex Ryan says nothing new - ESPN New York

I see no indications that the sides are any closer after that call than they were yesterday at this time.

BradyFTW!

Without knowing how the discussion went, we can't take much from it. But the fact that the Jets made the call at all--at that time of night--is at least a little telling in its own right. Definitely doesn't support the idea that they're willing to freeze him out and wait for him to come around. Seems from my perspective like they've already blinked first.

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Rob0729

Yeah, we have no idea what was said. They could be closer to at least a short term deal to get him in camp, no closer to a deal, or Revis could be even more insulted and more resolute to hold out.

I never believed the Jets would not reach out to Revis. They want to win this year and without Revis, that is far less likely. The problem is they cannot give Revis what he wants. So they are probably looking to figure out a way to appease him short term. What is working against the Jets is their history with players like Leon Washington, Pete Kendall, Laveranues Coles, and Chris Baker all of whom claimed the Jets promised long term money for short term compromises but renegged on that promise.

BradyFTW!

Yeah, I don't think any rational person thought the Jets were going to freeze Revis out in the first place, so the only conclusion that you could take from the very existence of the call is pretty much irrelevant.

The thing about Washington, though, is that the Jets did offer him long-term money, but he just thought that he could get more on the open market. So he made the decision to play out his last year to make it to the open market, and the worst case scenario for him played out. It sucks, for sure, but I'm not quite sure how that one can be pinned on the Jets. I would be like Mankins showing up and signing the one-year tender then being mad when he gets injured, conveniently ignoring that the Patriots offered him a long-term contract that he chose not to sign.

Bottom line, when a player says a FO lied to him, we have no way of knowing if that's a legit claim or if he's stretching credibility. Again, Mankins has insinuated that the Pats lied to him, but what does that mean? Did they say that they'd take care of him and make a fair offer, and he doesn't feel that the offer that he got (which was more than fair, IMO) was fair? Without knowing the specifics of the promises made, we can't tell if the Jets actually lied to those guys, although having so many players allege it definitely hurts their case. And independently of whether or not it's true, having that perception out there can't help negotiations with Revis.

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tzaf75

i dont know what was said and have no idea if they closer to reach an agreement

i just wanted to point out that unlike what one poster said there is contact between the Jets and Revis agent and not to make more of the situation then what it should be(which is a regular contract dispute between a player and a team,not an epic fight between good and evil)

spacecrime

Agree that there is no good in the struggle between Revis and Jests FO. Or evil. More like a battle between greed and stupidity.

I think it may be a while before Blubbergut yells from the rooftops that one of his players is the best in the NFL. Hopefully he can learn from a stupid mistake.

No hope for Revis. When a guy needs to make one dollar more than everyone else, he is in a no win situation, always seeking financial "proof" of his worth.

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