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WC, meet Kayvon Thibodeaux. Gonna get serious in practices with the Giants. In pass protection. This week will tell. Brian Burns and rookie Abdul Carter.

Giants have the best defensive line in the NFL.

Cool fact. Giants HC Brian Daboll and the Patriots’ OC were both graduate assistants at Michigan State in the late 1990s under Nick Saban. McDaniels in 1999. Daboll in 1998-99.

So they go WAY back.
Carter got his "welcome to the NFL" moment last week



 
Is that Chukwuma Okorafor?? He never wanted to play for Mayo. That was a sign if there was ever one.
Yes, it is. He was the longtime RT that the Patriots stupidly thought was the answer at LT.

Nope.

Just like moving Isaiah Wynn to RT.

Some guys belong on just one side or the other.

Notice the Jets have a veteran to guide and possibly replace rookie Armand Membou at RT.

If only the Patriots had something similar with rookie LT Will Campbell.

#fireeliotwolf
 
Evan Lazar article about the OL in the Pats first padded practice...



mike reiss also weighed in with a less rosy article but still highlights some good line play...


so its not all sunshine & fairy farts for the OL but there are glimmers of life from the most important unit on the field... Campbell starting to look like the real deal... need to see more but the returns from the 11 on 11's were damn good for Campbell and the reconstituted unit as a whole...

after last year and that circus, i consider this a good start...
Good stuff Pape, I'd also mention all pro OT'S Stanley, Pace, Slater, Dawkins for example all struggled too as rookies. Campbell will have alot of his critics silenced by mid-season. He'll have his ups and downs but it will make him a better player. There isn't a OT on the team or in FA that's better than he.
 
Pat Harlow and Matt Light from mighty Purdue were plug and play rookie LTs.

I agree Campbell and Moses are both upgrades over our USFL OTs from a year ago, but repeating what Captain Stone has said the front office has erred in not bringing in a veteran LT.

A long list of reasons to fire Eliot Wolf. Send em back to Green Bay.
Pat Harlow sucked.

Edit: He sucked so bad he lost his job to Max ****ing Lane.
 
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A possible starting OL:

Bryant-Campbell-Wilson-Onwenu-Grandpa.

Campbell looks to be an all pro LG.

I was wrong about Bryant. So far so good for the seventh-round rookie from Missouri.

SMH.

PFF grades our first round rookie LT as their #1 tackle, and you want to make him a guard?

Replacing him with a seventh round pick because he grades as #14 according to PFF?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
 
Here to share in the hopium and hype!

I really like what I've seen from both Campbell AND Marcus Bryant.

Bryant (a 7th round pick) has already played better than every offensive lineman they brought in during the previous two seasons... Let that sink in and tell me if you disagree.
 
Here to share in the hopium and hype!

I really like what I've seen from both Campbell AND Marcus Bryant.

Bryant (a 7th round pick) has already played better than every offensive lineman they brought in during the previous two seasons... Let that sink in and tell me if you disagree.
Whoever scouted Wilson and Bryant needs to be promoted.
 
I still have concerns about Campbell. But they are less than at the start of camp. He has shown a steady upward trend in pass blocking. Getting his lunch served to him by a top DE is concerning. It isn't that he lost to him, but how badly he lost that concerns. He got smoked. So seeing that wasn't good. It could just be subpar day meets elite player. It could also be the sign of some limitation. No one to know but him him against other very good DEs and see if he improves.

As for the o line as a whole. The hope is Wilson can really be a great year 1 player and help out any short comings at center.
 
I mean I can't say I don't get a delicious evil feeling when I see Membou and Simmonds ranked so low and Campbell so high (and even Bryant rated higher than you'd expect). But we all know that the PFF grades are still done subjectively, and TC is where rookies are supposed to make mistakes while they learn their craft.

They are ALL going to give up hits, pressures and sacks. They are ALL going to miss blocks on runs as well. They are all going to get beat from time to time, they are paying the other guys millions as well. Yet every time one of them fails, "some people" are quick to point out the error and call them failures. It is just so STUPID.

A player's response to how he handles adversity is the true measure of his character and EVERY player experiences adversity. It looks like we have a good rookie class, but in the war of attrition that is at minimum a 17 game season (and could be up to 21 games) they are all going to experience a great deal of adversity.
 
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PFF weighs on Campbell's preseason performance.. aware it is repetitive, but this this highlights him better.
 
Pat Harlow sucked.

Edit: He sucked so bad he lost his job to Max ****ing Lane.
Sorry but Pat Harlow did not suck. He got hurt in 1995 preseason, wanted a new deal, and was at odds w/ Parcells which was why he was traded to OAK. Before that he was totally fine.
 
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not sure about phones, but if you are on a computer, you can use the reader button...

 
To this point, it looks as though Campbell will be an average tackle (great on the run, so-so on PP) or a first rate guard, and a great teammate. I thinks that's about what we expected. It was our misfortune to need an LT in a draft year when that position was pretty thin. So we are where we thought we would be.

I think the O-line will be bottom-third this year, and that that will be a problem. I am not too bothered by that (unless Maye gets injured as a result) because, once again, it is what I expected. I see this year as very much an exercise in rebuiliding, as I have said all along. It seems Maye could take another year to get his in-the-moment judgment squared away. I think their record will be better, but I could not care less whether they get into the playoffs. All I care about is that the team shows signs of acceptable improvement. The rebuild is incomplete, as you would expect it to be, given Bill's dismal work as GM and Mayo's spectacular incompetence (He couldn't even manage to LOSE a goddam game.). The rebuild began (again) at a very low point, and there is no way that job is finished.
 
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