Player Signing Why did this team sign Tebow?

[sb1]

26 is still pretty young

For a "developmental QB"? Disagree.

Conditioning overcomes age and Tim Tebow is one of the hardest workers in the NFL so I could see him playing another 14 or 15 seasons in the league if God allows it.

We shall see.

Young obviously learned from sitting behind Montana. Tebow could have the same sort of tutelage under Brady.

He's the third stringer who has played horrifically bad in his first two preseason games. He's got miles to go and a lot to prove before becoming the backup to Brady.

 

[detpatsfan]

It's "wildcat" and yes there is EVERYTHING wrong with pulling Tom Brady off the field for any reason at all barring injury or game being out of reach.



They already did before Tim came here.



Is 8-8 successful? How about getting clown stomped by the Patriots twice? Was that "successful"?



Tebow was a factor but not the only factor.



Wrong. QB's do not win games. Teams do.




No evidence at this point to back up that assertion, but we shall see what Bill has planned for him.

Absolutely 8-8 is succesful when you're thrown in as the starting qb in the middle of the season after the team is 1-4. Tebow was not the only factor, correct, but he was the MAIN FACTOR in the 2011 Broncos turning it around and making the playoffs after Kyle Orton had them on pace for 3-13.

 

[Demosthenes]

No it isn't. I see you left out the second (and most important) part of my post:

By the time Tebow is done "learning" he will be getting closer and closer to 30 and perhaps with his 4th team. Now there are definitely late bloomers (like Rich Gannon) but none of them had the fundamental issues with their game that Tim has.

Did Steve Young have the throwing issues that Tim has? Nope.

If Tebow was a raw 22 year old rookie I could see the point of him "sitting and learning" on this roster. Not a 26 year old that we hope, wish and pray for the 0.1% chance he becomes Steve Young.

Actually, yeah, Steve Young did have throwing issues. He also had issues with staying in the pocket and going through progressions.

Luckily for him, Bill Walsh saw something in him, traded for him, and took the time to teach him how to be an NFL QB.

IF you can look at Tebow right now and say "ok, if he was 22, you could see the point of developing him", then it does make sense to do it when he's 26 as well.

Only way it wouldn't make sense is if you didn't see enough to begin with.

 

[sb1]

Appreciate that. I'm not a guy who hopes a guy fails just to be proven right. I had hoped he would have come in and had been able to contribute and at least be a backup. It just hasn't worked out so far unfortunately, and the prospect of counting on him for regular season snaps (gasp) frightens me. At least judging by his recent body of work.

Ian - OT - I see the page number sometimes goes one ahead of the last existing page. For example I click on "page 217" which keeps me on 216 until more posts come.

Is the problem with my settings?

 

[Ian]

1) Nothing wrong with giving Brady a rest on obvious running downs (1st and 2nd) by utilizing Tebow in McDaniels' wildhorse.

Yes there is because the reason why the Patriots are able to run the ball so effectively is there's always the fear of Brady running play action and killing them with a big play. You take him out and put Tebow in, and guys are cheating up big time. It's tough to even make the argument in short yardage situations because Brady is so good on sneaks too. So I completely disagree with taking Brady off the field for any reason, unless they're up by 30 with under 2 minutes to go.

 

[Ian]

Ian - OT - I see the page number sometimes goes one ahead of the last existing page. For example I click on "page 217" which keeps me on 216 until more posts come.

Is the problem with my settings?

No, I've gone back through and I've noticed a couple people deleted their posts, which throws the page count off temporarily.

 

[detpatsfan]

I completely disagree with taking Brady off the field for any reason, unless they're up by 30 with under 2 minutes to go.

That's yet another reason to have Tebow on the roster you can sit Brady when the Pats are up by 50+ points on the Jets.

 

[Demosthenes]

That's yet another reason to have Tebow on the roster you can sit Brady when the Pats are up by 50+ points on the Jets.

Run on back home to JI little one.

 

[sb1]

Actually, yeah, Steve Young did have throwing issues. He also had issues with staying in the pocket and going through progressions.

Luckily for him, Bill Walsh saw something in him, traded for him, and took the time to teach him how to be an NFL QB.

IF you can look at Tebow right now and say "ok, if he was 22, you could see the point of developing him", then it does make sense to do it when he's 26 as well.

Only way it wouldn't make sense is if you didn't see enough to begin with.

Look at his year with Tampa and you'll see Young's numbers are not bad at all. Despite playing for a vile gut-wrenchingly bad football team. He had a few things to learn but again he never had the fundamental flaws in his game that Tim does.

As for your last point, I can see a 22 year old being groomed to replace Brady at QB. Unless you can guarantee that the 26 year old is definitely the next Steve Young, the older guy to me has less potential, less upside and a quicker best before date.

The Patriots are not a charity or a service for Tim and his fans, they are a win now football team trying to win championships. They don't owe him anything.

 

[sb1]

No, I've gone back through and I've noticed a couple people deleted their posts, which throws the page count off temporarily.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks

 

[sb1]

That's yet another reason to have Tebow on the roster you can sit Brady when the Pats are up by 50+ points on the Jets.

They haven't done that very often with their backup QB, I doubt things would be any different with Tim as the backup.

 

[SDI_Gator]

Look at his year with Tampa and you'll see Young's numbers are not bad at all. Despite playing for a vile gut-wrenchingly bad football team. He had a few things to learn but again he never had the fundamental flaws in his game that Tim does.

As for your last point, I can see a 22 year old being groomed to replace Brady at QB. Unless you can guarantee that the 26 year old is definitely the next Steve Young, the older guy to me has less potential, less upside and a quicker best before date.

The Patriots are not a charity or a service for Tim and his fans, they are a win now football team trying to win championships. They don't owe him anything.

I'm not sure hes even trying to say the pats owe him anything. I think hes saying that maybe, a huge maybe, BB see something in Tim that you can not. Tim is at a minimum salary, can fill in on special teams and just maybe play decoy on offense (anyone that suggests tb comes out for tim is a moron) I dont know and it's all speculation.

 

[Ian]

That's yet another reason to have Tebow on the roster you can sit Brady when the Pats are up by 50+ points on the Jets.

I just approved your account this morning and you've been on a Tebow tear - you must have been chomping at the bit to hop on here and get the word out

I hope he does well - but if he doesn't, you need to be a little more realistic. Keep in mind what generally happens to guys who leave here - it's generally not good. So it's up to him to have a heck of a finish to this preseason.

 

[Ironman44]

That's yet another reason to have Tebow on the roster you can sit Brady when the Pats are up by 50+ points on the Jets.

I say run the " wild horse" ( still hilarious) for every down until the last series , keep the game close and bring in Brady only for the final drive , BANG Patriots win , Brady can play until he is 74 years old that way .

Your really are on to something here detpatsfan!

 

[Boogs]

1) Nothing wrong with giving Brady a rest on obvious running downs (1st and 2nd) by utilizing Tebow in McDaniels' wildhorse. That way we preserve having the best offense in the NFL. Also there is nothing wrong with trying something new especially if it was already succesful in Denver.

2) Tebow has already proven he is a good qb at the NFL level. He has taken a team to the playoffs that was not playing well at all until he started. He has also won a playoff game and is a multiple threat as a runner and a thrower.

3) Dumb argument to say a team isn't carrying 3 qb's if one is a rookie? So rookies don't count anymore? So what were Russell Wilson, RG3 and Luck?

4) Tebow has the drive, determination, talent and athleticism to become one of the best Tight Ends in the NFL. Oh and he also would have a guy named Brady throwing him the ball.


Keep Tebow.

Dude, you are hilarious. You fooled me for a second. And then I read about this Tebow wildhorse offense. LOL. But seriously you made my day.

 

[larryo]

4) Tebow has the drive, determination, talent and athleticism to become one of the best Tight Ends in the NFL. Oh and he also would have a guy named Brady throwing him the ball.

and the lols in this thread just keep coming

 

[Demosthenes]

Look at his year with Tampa and you'll see Young's numbers are not bad at all. Despite playing for a vile gut-wrenchingly bad football team. He had a few things to learn but again he never had the fundamental flaws in his game that Tim does.

As for your last point, I can see a 22 year old being groomed to replace Brady at QB. Unless you can guarantee that the 26 year old is definitely the next Steve Young, the older guy to me has less potential, less upside and a quicker best before date.

The Patriots are not a charity or a service for Tim and his fans, they are a win now football team trying to win championships. They don't owe him anything.

Sigh. In two years at Tampa, Steve Young racked up passer ratings of 56.9 and 65.5. His highest comp % was 53.7%. He had 11 Passing TDs and 21 INTs.

Steve Young had a hell of a lot more than "a few things" to learn about being a QB.

As for Tebow and the Pats. No one has claimed that they do owe him anything or that they should be a charity for Tebow or his fans.

We have all been rather clear in saying that IF they keep on the roster and try to develop him, it's because THEY see something there worth developing.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

 

[Ironman44]

and the lols in this thread just keep coming

You do realize he's not a Tebow fan right ?

 

[Awesomo 3000]

4) Tebow has the drive, determination, talent and athleticism to become one of the best Tight Ends in the NFL. Oh and he also would have a guy named Brady throwing him the ball.

and the lols in this thread just keep coming

Ow. My brain hurts.