Who WILL Win MVP and Who Should Win?

[ExpatPack]

So answer this for me. The point of football is to win games, correct? Brady won as many games as Ryan, while posting similar stats (in terms of average), correct? So how does missing 4 games make any difference? 11 wins is 11 wins. The fact that it took only 12 attempts, not 16, should be a pro, not a negative...

Not denying Matty is deserving, but I just don't think this line or reasoning is all that logical. As I said, a win is a win, it doesn't matter if it is by 3 points or 20. Switch the tables and put Brady on the Falcons. Lets say they start 0-4. Do you think Brady wouldn't still be able to go 11-1 and end up with the same record (as ATL)? That's what these arguments are all about, if you go that "he missed 4 games" route...

Because neither Atlanta nor Green Bay has had anything near the defense the Patriots have had this year. Put the Patriots' defense together with Matt Ryan and I'll guarantee you he would have won several more games.

Seems to me that opinion has pretty much swung to Ryan as the MVP, as it should be. He's been the most consistent performer this year, and he finished with a bang. I think he'll get it.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

I think if Brady plays indoor, he'd be 16-0/15-1 every year

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

Ryan, Zeke or Brady...
Rodgers was avg for 10 games (22/7) and started to play well against MIN, CHI, DET, HOU WAS, PHI, SEA ( without Thomas)

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I think Ryan should win but the media's Manning-esque infatuation with Rogers will result in him taking it.

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

Should win: Matt Ryan

Will win: Aaron Rodgers. Him delivering on his "guarantee" pretty much sealed it. The mediots will go with that narrative as there are no clear-cut winners this year. Any of Ryan, Brady, Rodgers, Elliott and Prescott are deserving candidates. Brady missed 4 games, Elliott and Prescott are on the same team and Ryan isn't considered as a golden boy QB. Rodgers will win it because it makes for the better stories. These voted awards don't mean jack because they are determined by people who have agendas (ie the better story). Ironically enough, Brady misssing 4 games actually HELPS him "storyline" wise and might get him a few more votes.

 

[primetime]

Ryan will win. Ryan should win. That doesn't take away from an exceptional year on Brady's part, I just think Ryan is highly deserving and has basically no knocks against him. He had a fantastic statistical year and did it playing a tough schedule without much help from his defense.

The 12 game argument against Brady is legitimate in the case for MVP. Had he played 16 games, he probably would and should have won. Brady missed 4 games and played a soft schedule. Rodgers looked like garbage for the first half of the season and padded his touchdown totals thanks to a non-existent running game and stat-padding mentality. Rodgers is also totally and utterly unlikable to anyone except the media narrative machine; he's basically the Michael Jordan of football. I suspect Elliot will win the offensive player of the year award.

It's impossible to give it to a unit, of course, but the Dallas offensive line would get my vote if you could do so. And Von Miller is deserving of consideration as well, but defensive players get no love.

 

[VrabelJr]

I'm going to get real creative and say that Brady will win it and Brady should win it. He's the best player in football this year by a long stretch.

"But wait, VrabelJr" you say, "It's the MVP award, not the best football player ward." Well, when did we start getting pedantic about the NFL? Isn't it all just tuh-may-toe ****-you-toe?

 

[Kontradiction]

Ryan will probably win it. When he does, it will be much deserved.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I am introducing two new mathematical formulas to address the question:

ABTB4NFLMVP* = (TB + SBMVP)

SBMVP > NFLMVP

Give it to Matt Ryan. It's his turn. He's in the NFC, so he might get to the SB, where his team will lose, hopefully to the Pats, because he's MVP. And, he's a good guy.

(*Anybody But Tom Brady for NFL MVP. The Award's a damn jinx if you want to win an SB.)

 

[SVN]

I dont hate Aaron Rodgers but I hate Michael Silver

 

[obgod3]

I think Ryan is the guy, although our guy Brady has been fantastic I still Ryan is the MVP. I hope he gets it.

BTW has Brady ever won the MVP and SB the same year?

 

[SVN]

Derek Carr's impact on Raiders makes him 2016 NFL MVP

 

[CISGS]

I think if Brady plays indoor, he'd be 16-0/15-1 every year

I don't really understand this post. Brady dominates outdoors? It actually gives us an advantage.

 

[TB_Helmet]

I dont hate Aaron Rodgers but I hate Michael Silver

"Jones executive".

Please tell me that's not Jerry Jones.

 

[Big Bucks]

I couldn't give a toss about season MVP.. for what its worth I'd give it to Ryan to give Tommy a bigger chip and hope he goes on to win the only really worthy MVP award out there.

 

[NE_Zealot]

Sign me up for the group that believes in the MVP curse that forbids winning it all.

Ryan...should win it. MVP is generally QB with great stats. Has 500ish more passing yards and better avg rating than Rodgers.

Rodgers...will win it due to the media's infatuation with him. He is being groomed to take HGHillbilly's spot in the ballwashing dept. His saving grace is GB's 6-game winning streak against perennial powerhouses like CHI, MIN, PHI, HOU and DET. A real murderer's row!

I never really disliked Rodgers until recently. Just the DET/GB game the other night did it for me, I was waiting for Al and Cris to leap from the booth onto the gridiron and grab ankles for Aaron, repulsive. That and the fact his name pops up occasionally in GOAT convos. Yeah, great job on your one SB appearance dude.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Derek Carr's impact on Raiders makes him 2016 NFL MVP

Adam Schein's votes. At least he voted for Belichick, but he completely used the "Tom's and the Pat's are always good" against him. I hate the "so and so team has sucked, but now so and so has made the team relevant again. MVP" argument. Where was this argument all the years Manning was winning by default?

 

[TB12TheGoat]

In a season full of surprises, here is one more. I asked five general managers, three from the AFC and two from the NFC, who they thought was the league MVP. The answer was unanimous and, to me at least, highly surprising:

Aaron Rodgers.

Not Dak Prescott. Not Tom Brady. Not Ezekiel Elliott. But Rodgers.

In addition to their choice, I also asked them for their explanation.

The first GM, who has been in the NFL for several decades, said: "Rodgers is the MVP. Maybe the best football player I've ever seen."

Said the second GM: "I can't vote for someone who missed one-quarter of the season. [Tom Brady was suspended four games because of Deflategate.] It's Rodgers. He's better than everyone else."

The third acknowledged: "I was wrong. I thought he was done for this season. Shown me a lot of courage and fight. Rodgers for me."

The fourth GM also expressed some early-season regret, saying: "Got him all wrong [he believed Rodgers' skills were eroding]. Best quarterback I've ever seen. He's my MVP. Dak has a lot more around him, and Brady missed [four games]."

The fifth general manager also voted Rodgers but had an interesting caveat, which touched upon a key plot twist in Rodgers' MVP story.

"[Rodgers] is my MVP," he said. "Probably the best quarterback in league history. But it's no coincidence his game has risen [after a slow start] once Montgomery started doing what he's doing."

Rodgers and Montgomery have become the Prescott and Elliott of the NFC North, said one of the executives, except that as good as Prescott is, Rodgers is in another stratosphere.






absolutely ****ing sickening

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I don't really understand this post. Brady dominates outdoors? It actually gives us an advantage.

Some posts are not meant to be understood.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

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BTW has Brady ever won the MVP and SB the same year?

No

The damn award is a jinx. The last guy to win both was Kurt Warner in 1999. Since then, it's been the kiss of death in the SB (see 2007 for Brady and last season for Cam Newton).

It's Matt Ryan's turn. Let him have it. Besides, he might make it to the SB v. the Pats!!!