Which 3 rookies would you draft if you could rewind?

[Easywolf32]

Which 3 rookies would you draft if you could rewind the time back to April's Draft?

Round 1 pick 23 - OL Michael Oher Ravens (1, 23) Would make a great starting or back up RT maybe even Left.

or

RB Donald Brown Colts (1, 27)

or

CB Vontae Davis Dolphins (1, 25)

Round 2 - 3

Darius Butler CB
Patrick Chung SS
CB Derek Cox Jaguars (3, 73)
MLB James Laurinaitis, Rams (2, 35) ??
OLB Rey Maualuga, Bengals (2, 38) ?? I cant picture him in a Pats uniform though haha
RB LeSean McCoy, Eagles (2, 53)
Ron Brace DT
Sebastian Vollmer OL

Who do you guys like so far?

 

[jsull87]

not saying i don't like the rookies we have but...


2nd ReyRey
2nd Everett Brown
2nd Darius Butler/Sean Smith
2nd Sebastian Volmer

 

[Lockdown06]

Which 3 rookies would you draft if you could rewind the time back to April's Draft?

Round 1 pick 23 - OL Michael Oher Ravens (1, 23) Would make a great starting or back up RT maybe even Left.

or

RB Donald Brown Colts (1, 27)

or

CB Vontae Davis Dolphins (1, 25)

Round 2 - 3

Darius Butler CB
Patrick Chung SS
CB Derek Cox Jaguars (3, 73)
MLB James Laurinaitis, Rams (2, 35) ??
OLB Rey Maualuga, Bengals (2, 38) ?? I cant picture him in a Pats uniform though haha
RB LeSean McCoy, Eagles (2, 53)
Ron Brace DT
Sebastian Vollmer OL

Who do you guys like so far?

Given the way our defense has changed shape a little since the draft, I'd take Clay Matthews at 26 (we traded the pick to Green Bay, I believe). The major knock on him in the pats system was that he wasn't big enough to be effective as an OLB - I think now that we run a 4-3 as well as a 3-4, depending on the match-up, there's definitely a spot for him on the team.

 

[Spiral]

Maualuga over Chung.

 

[mgteich]

I am absolutely fine with getting two 2010 seconds and all the players we secured from pick 41 onward.

Then and now, I would rather have Laurinitis (LB) and Will Moore (S) instead of Chung and Brace. Presumably, we would also still have drafted McKenzie.

PICK 23
I would not touch what we did with the 23rd pick. We ended up with Butler, Edelman, Tate and a 2010 2nd rounder for the pick after all the trades down.

PICK 34
LAURINITIS instead of Chung

PICK 40
I give Belichick the benefit of the doubt. If we don't trade up to 40, someone else might have and then taken, Butler. So the question is Brace or someone else.
MOORE instead of Brace.

However, since we are in 100% hindsight, we really didn't need a corner since we were getting McGowan, so UNGER or LEVITRE might have been even better.

 

[JETFIRE6]

what does it matter yall cant draft anyway.

 

[condon84]

I am absolutely fine with getting two 2010 seconds and all the players we secured from pick 41 onward.

Then and now, I would rather have Laurinitis (LB) and Will Moore (S) instead of Chung and Brace. Presumably, we would also still have drafted McKenzie.

PICK 23
I would not touch what we did with the 23rd pick. We ended up with Butler, Edelman, Tate and a 2010 2nd rounder for the pick after all the trades down.

PICK 34
LAURINITIS instead of Chung

PICK 40
I give Belichick the benefit of the doubt. If we don't trade up to 40, someone else might have and then taken, Butler. So the question is Brace or someone else.
MOORE instead of Brace.

However, since we are in 100% hindsight, we really didn't need a corner since we were getting McGowan, so UNGER or LEVITRE might have been even better.

How is Moore doing? I liked him coming out even though his senior season was a disappointment.

 

[mayoclinic]

I am absolutely fine with getting two 2010 seconds and all the players we secured from pick 41 onward.

Then and now, I would rather have Laurinitis (LB) and Will Moore (S) instead of Chung and Brace. Presumably, we would also still have drafted McKenzie.

PICK 23
I would not touch what we did with the 23rd pick. We ended up with Butler, Edelman, Tate and a 2010 2nd rounder for the pick after all the trades down.

PICK 34
LAURINITIS instead of Chung

PICK 40
I give Belichick the benefit of the doubt. If we don't trade up to 40, someone else might have and then taken, Butler. So the question is Brace or someone else.
MOORE instead of Brace.

However, since we are in 100% hindsight, we really didn't need a corner since we were getting McGowan, so UNGER or LEVITRE might have been even better.

We went into the draft with first day picks at 23, 34, 47 and 58. We traded back from 23 (twice), eventually ending up with 41. We traded up from 47 to 40.

We got absurd value for our #23 pick. Michael Oher looks good so far, but I don't think you can possibly argue that we didn't get tremendous value for our pick, trading back twice but still getting Darius Butler at #41 and essentially picking up two 2010 2nd round picks.

Sebastian Vollmer looks like a stud so far. I would have taken OT William Beatty at #58, but I'm thrilled with Vollmer at this point.

So for me the only question is the #34 and 40 picks. I agree with MgT that moving up to 40 was a good move, as (1) someone might have taken Butler, and (2) a lot of good players went between 40 and 47. As of right now, Patrick Chung and Ron Brace aren't contributing much, but the Pats tend to take the conservative approach with rookies. We are all holding our breath a bit and hoping they'll be more in the Brandon Meriweather mold than in the Chad Jackson mold.

At 34 I would have preferred (and still would) Louis Delmas to Chung at S, but he went one pick earlier. Given Brandon McGowan's unexpected impact, I probably wouldn't take a S at all. I would have used #34 on a DE/OLB - Connor Barwin being my choice, but Everette Brown and Clint Sintim being reasonable alternatives.

I still don't think Maualuga is a good fit for the Pats. Laurinaitis is a nice player, but we have Mayo and Guyton. Laurinaitis (6'2", 247#) has started 4 games for the Rams at MLB, has been the defensive signal caller, and has 34 tackles and 0 PD so far. Guyton (6'3", 245+#) took over at MLB and WILB for Mayo week 1, has started 4 games so far, has been the defensive signal caller since week 2, and has 26 tackles and 1 PD so far.

I'll stick with Ron Brace at 40 for now. My ideal would have been Delmas at 34 and Barwin at 40, but the Lions killed that option.

 

[Peachhead]

In hindsight, I would have tried to switch places with Detroit (in the 2nd round) and took Defensive Rookie of the Month Louis Delmas instead of Patrick Chung, Vikes starting RT Phil Loadholt instead of Ron Brace, and I can't think of a third one.

That's no offense to Chung and Brace. They may well be better fits in the long run. Especially in BB's complex system.

 

[HarkDawg]

Vollmer is raw and has plenty of good qualities about him. Vollmer was my favorite pick of the'09 draft. The guy came from Germany and at this point all I can see is him evolving into a better football player in time. He is big, tall and strong. The upside is huge on this guy and this bill bellichick project will work out for the better.

My second favorite pick is in TATE. Give him a year and he will be a stud WR.

I would not change anything about this draft.

 

[mgteich]

I must be missing something. Or do you mean "absurd" as a positive instead of its usual negative connation.

We traded our 23 for 26 and 162 which we passed on to the green bay for 41(Butler), 73 and 83 (Tate). 73 was traded for a 2010 2nd and a 7th (Edelman)

So, for the #23, we ended up with
Butler
Tate
Edelman
2010 2nd rounder

1) Would you have felt that we got less absurd compensation if we traded the 23 directly to Green Bay for the 41, 73 and 83? I suspect that GB was not willing at 23 and changed its mind by 26.

2) At the time, you would have been fine with the following, even though you would have chosen differently.

23 BUTLER

So, Belichick got Tate, Edelman and a 2010 2nd rounder IN ADDITON and you thought that belichick got "absurd value"????????????????
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We got absurd value for our #23 pick. Michael Oher looks good so far, but I don't think you can possibly argue that we didn't get tremendous value for our pick, trading back twice but still getting Darius Butler at #41 and essentially picking up two 2010 2nd round picks.

 

[mgteich]

I don't know how Moore is doing. For me, he is as good a future prospect as Chung. He would have also projected to be a 2009 special teams contributer, like Chung.

I am not down on Chung. However, I thought #34 was considerably too much to pay.

How is Moore doing? I liked him coming out even though his senior season was a disappointment.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

2) At the time, you would have been fine with the following, even though you would have chosen differently.

23 BUTLER

So, Belichick got Tate, Edelman and a 2010 2nd rounder IN ADDITON and you thought that belichick got "absurd value"????????????????

I think he meant absurdly GOOD value.

As for me, Butler was my pick at #23 so there were a lot of freebies in that sequence for me.

 

[RobAllan]

I feel like it's too early for this thread. I, for one, can't honestly say I know how good Chung is. So I can't want someone else instead of him. I think that goes for all the rookies so far. And I don't assume just because a different rookie might be contributing already on another team that the same rookie would be contributing here right now yet.

I guess I don't see this as a different thread than one you'd have right after draft day for the most part. I am a bit higher on Butler having seen him now.

The only thing I'm darn sure of is that I wouldn't draft Crabtree. Hahaha

-Rob-

 

[mgteich]

Crabtree will help SF reach the playoffs.

I feel like it's too early for this thread. I, for one, can't honestly say I know how good Chung is. So I can't want someone else instead of him. I think that goes for all the rookies so far. And I don't assume just because a different rookie might be contributing already on another team that the same rookie would be contributing here right now yet.

I guess I don't see this as a different thread than one you'd have right after draft day for the most part. I am a bit higher on Butler having seen him now.

The only thing I'm darn sure of is that I wouldn't draft Crabtree. Hahaha

-Rob-

 

[WhiZa]

I think one of the reasons they passed on Rey and James was that they are ILB and we are running a 4-3 now. They would not be able to make the transition to OLB imo so their first 4 years they'd be backing up Mayo.

I still wish we drafted Clint Sintim

 

[Patspsycho]

what does it matter yall cant draft anyway.

You're too early. Come back in late November.

 

[Deus Irae]

Oher is really the only player I'd be focused on.

 

[Rob0729]

We're four weeks into the season. I don't know if I would change a single pick at this point. Chung hasn't done anything yet, but that doesn't mean he won't be a great player some day. Look at Meriweather and how little he did his first year. I think people overrate him on this board, but he is a solid safety after a basic red shirt rookie season.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'd take Michael Oher at 23, then draft Darius Butler with the Chung pick. Nothing against Chung, who I think will be more than fine and likely quite good, but in hindsight McGowan's emergence makes the need for him a little less apparent, and I'd love to have Vollmer and Oher both waiting in the wings (or, more likely, Oher would be starting already).