Whatever Happened to John Jastremski and Jim McNally?

[farn]

It was the most important issue facing the nation. All of a sudden, it wasn't. Can it be that there was a scientific reason to NOT shed tears ?

Can't get over the ridiculous amount of media coverage that got. And how little the exact same thing got this year re PIT.

 

[DarrylS]

I always thought a more significant person in this whole crazy situation was Garrapolo, Hoyer etc. have heard Zolak several times discuss is responsibility for getting the balls ready for every game on the day before.. no one ever pursued that angle.

 

[Bill Lee]

I always thought a more significant person in this whole crazy situation was Garrapolo, Hoyer etc. have heard Zolak several times discuss is responsibility for getting the balls ready for every game on the day before.. no one ever pursued that angle.

Wow, more angles to pursue... Quick, call Felger, Borges, CHB, etc.

 

[Angelpats]

There's no angle. Nothing happened. Mediots can't seem to comprehend that balls gets flatter when it gets cold out.

 

[sb1]

I bet TMZ or some other network like that offered them millions to spill the beans and tell the "real story". No doubt that if there was a story to tell they would have happily taken them up on the offer. Their silence is telling.

 

[mosi]

They got jobs with Eli Manning:

Eli Manning’s Footballs Are Months in Making

I know that is from 2013 but people are worried about 0.5 PSI when people were doing all this?

 

[Danger Zone]

The only person to lose their job because of Deflategate was an NFL employee that was fired after being caught embezzling charity footballs to sell privately.

The initiator of it all, Mark Kensil appears to have accepted a kind of out of country demotion.

And yet despite the severity of it all, the NFL continues to allow Jastremsi and McNally to be employed.

 

[Koma]

The only person to lose their job because of Deflategate was an NFL employee that was fired after being caught embezzling charity footballs to sell privately.

The initiator of it all, Mark Kensil appears to have accepted a kind of out of country demotion.

And yet despite the severity of it all, the NFL continues to allow Jastremsi and McNally to be employed.

You want a quick exercise in futility? Try to find any mention of Scott Miller, the NFL employee who was stealing items intended for charity, past February of 2015. Heck, before I started this post, I realized I had forgotten his name. When I did a search about the incident, the entire first page of results only referred to him as "an NFL employee."

People love to talk about cover ups when it comes to the Patriots, but the details about what Miller was up to, how long it had been going on, and who else might have been involved have been completely buried. The media was going to Jim McNally's house, but there was no attempt to find out more about the one guy who we know was definitely doing something wrong.

 

[Koma]

It was the most important issue facing the nation. All of a sudden, it wasn't. Can it be that there was a scientific reason to NOT shed tears ?

Can't get over the ridiculous amount of media coverage that got. And how little the exact same thing got this year re PIT.

It's almost as if the league had told the media to make a big deal about it when the Patriots were involved and then told them to downplay things when the same circumstances applied to the Steelers.

 

[patfanken]

You would think that a defamation suit would be a slam dunk. However the toughest hurdle to pass when you are filing one of these is that you have prove monetary loss. And whatever monetary loss they suffered was under 10K, for the time they were suspended.

The 2nd hurdle is that you have to prove they did it with malice. That would now also be hard to prove. On the other hand BOTH these hurdles would be easily jumped by Brady. Im sure you could itemize endorsement loses in 2015 (though less in 2016) and the malice can be easily proved by the fact the league never allowed the Pats to respond to any of the NFL office phoney leaks. The already have that in writing.

There are are issues you have to deal with in a defamation case but these are the first 2.

 

[Froob]

The MUCH MUCH MUCH more relevant question is where in blazes is the reprehensible bloated warthog of a humanoid Mike Kensil? THAT is the 66 million dollar question...

I believe he's spreading integrity across the globe last I heard.

I bet we never hear a peep from either of these guys, I'm sure they've been giving a gag order and probably a nice Christmas bonus to shut up.

Signed sneakers and gear from the NFL front office?

 

[Koma]

I bet TMZ or some other network like that offered them millions to spill the beans and tell the "real story". No doubt that if there was a story to tell they would have happily taken them up on the offer. Their silence is telling.

People have said that Brady and/or the Patriots bought McNally and Jastremski off to keep them quiet. The problem with that thinking is there is no contract or guarantee when you buy someone's silence. One or both of them could decide "Brady has paid me $X. TMZ is offering me $Y. I would be better off with $X + $Y." That hasn't happened, which, as you pointed out, is telling.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I understand that Jastremski used the hush money from the Pats and Brady to buy a villa in St. Croix, where he is living with his fashion model girlfriend.

By all reports, Jim McNally moved to Hollywood, where he is using his newfound wealth to produce movies and audition starlets in his Beverly Hills mansion.




[For those devoid of senses of humor and sarcasm, that's a joke. They're probably both still getting a couple hundred bucks a game to work for the Patriots.]

 

[PatsFanSince74]

The MUCH MUCH MUCH more relevant question is where in blazes is the reprehensible bloated warthog of a humanoid Mike Kensil? THAT is the 66 million dollar question...

He was moved out of his old job and given a job that has something to do with international expansion by the NFL. In other words, kicked upstairs and out of sight. Goodell might be an amoral cretin, but he isn't stupid; Kensil is out of the picture.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

You would think that a defamation suit would be a slam dunk. However the toughest hurdle to pass when you are filing one of these is that you have prove monetary loss. And whatever monetary loss they suffered was under 10K, for the time they were suspended.

The 2nd hurdle is that you have to prove they did it with malice. That would now also be hard to prove. On the other hand BOTH these hurdles would be easily jumped by Brady. Im sure you could itemize endorsement loses in 2015 (though less in 2016) and the malice can be easily proved by the fact the league never allowed the Pats to respond to any of the NFL office phoney leaks. The already have that in writing.

There are are issues you have to deal with in a defamation case but these are the first 2.

Re Brady.
Even if what you say is true (there is nothing "easy" about a defamation suit by a public figure) , there is nothing in his background, demeanor or reported personality that would suggest that that is how he would go. Everything that we can know about him suggests that, for him, revenge is on the Field.

 

[woolster22]

Re Brady.
Even if what you say is true (there is nothing "easy" about a defamation suit by a public figure) , there is nothing in his background, demeanor or reported personality that would suggest that that is how he would go. Everything that we can know about him suggests that, for him, revenge is on the Field.

With the exception of the words coming out of his mouth this week...

 

[jah]

He was moved out of his old job and given a job that has something to do with international expansion by the NFL. In other words, kicked upstairs and out of sight. Goodell might be an amoral cretin, but he isn't stupid; Kensil is out of the picture.

I'm not sure why Goodell would want that. For slipping up by bragging to our staff that they're in "big ****ing trouble"?

 

[50-yard-line]

At some point training does not matter. I can no longer break the 30 second barrier.

There's an over-50 league.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

I'm not sure why Goodell would want that. For slipping up by bragging to our staff that they're in "big ****ing trouble"?

We don't know the "inside baseball," but it could have been a sop to Kraft.

 

[Gumby]

You would think that a defamation suit would be a slam dunk. However the toughest hurdle to pass when you are filing one of these is that you have prove monetary loss. And whatever monetary loss they suffered was under 10K, for the time they were suspended.

The 2nd hurdle is that you have to prove they did it with malice. That would now also be hard to prove. On the other hand BOTH these hurdles would be easily jumped by Brady. Im sure you could itemize endorsement loses in 2015 (though less in 2016) and the malice can be easily proved by the fact the league never allowed the Pats to respond to any of the NFL office phoney leaks. The already have that in writing.

There are are issues you have to deal with in a defamation case but these are the first 2.

Since the league leaked the false 11-of-12 statement and then not only refused to correct it but contractually obligated the patriots to also not correct it (when they finally gave them the data), i think that makes the malice issue a slam dunk (knowingly propagating a lie = malice) for ALL parties, and that is normally the higher hurdle.

The $10K is a problem, but these guys had reporters camped out on their yards so i would think if they really wanted to there would be a way around the damages 'estimate' issue.

But at the end of the day that dollar amount of damages would be nothing compared to the legal fees. So based on the cost-benefit, you are completely right to expect to never see these guys in court unless TB calls them as witnesses.