What would you offer Miami for Jason Taylor?

[Rob0729]

18-1 means 0 to me without a SB. I am not saying JT would have won us the SB, maybe he woulda got Manning on the last play, who the hell knows.

What I am saying that RC on one side and Taylor on the other (BB would find ways to use him from either side I am sure) makes us even better than what we were last year. And for the record there are MANY first, second, third picks that ended up sucking *****. We know what we would get with Taylor.

I respect you opinion, I just think he improves this team.

18-1 means that we don't need to throw away a top 10 pick for a player who can only help us for a year or two.

I'm sorry, but we do not need to take such a drastic step to win the Super Bowl in 2008. The Pats draft record for first round picks have been stellar. There is no reason to doubt that if the Pats keep that 7 pick that he isn't another Richard Seymour type of player.

Besides, Jason Taylor would have had zero effect on Brady getting put on his ass as many times as he was in the Super Bowl. Overall, the Pats defense played pretty well. The last two drives were horrendous but they were solid for the rest of the game. AD had two sacks in that game too.

If Taylor was three or four years younger, maybe. But no rent a player is worth a top 10 pick. With him doing "Dancing with the Stars", you don't even know what his level of committment in the offseason is going to be anymore.

If we can get him for a third rounder, I am all for it. But if we trade the seventh pick in the draft for him, we may be giving up the next Jason Taylor type player who could be a franchise player for us for the next 12 years. That is too much to risk.

 

[Ring 6]

When you pick in th ehigh 20s and low 30s every year, you do not throw away a #7 pick that you end up with in a trade.
This will be the highest we have drafted a player since Richard Seymour.
The correct plan is to exercise that pick and get a franchise-type player that will be here 7+ years.
If in 2001, we had traded the 6th pick for an aging guy at a position we were already strong at, we would have not had one of the key players that got us 3 rings.

 

[Ring 6]

The second round pick Miami got from SD and their third round pick plus JT for our seventh overall.
Would you be happy with that scenario?

no (ten characters)

 

[Ring 6]

you could cut an injured Colvin and replace him with an upgrade in Jason Taylor for the same price. Just send over a 3rd.

Colvin is younger. Colvin is a 3-4 OLB, Taylor is a 4-3 DE.
The 3rd round pick has a lot of value.
How much are you upgrading an OLB group that has Vrabel, Colvin, and Thomas by adding an old player who will have to play out of position?

 

[jbb9s]

Let me use common sense here, and maybe it'll help you.

New England plays a 3-4 base.

Taylor would have to beat out the following DL:
Seymour
Warren
Wilfork

Now, this means that Taylor won't be a starting DL for the Patriots.
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What about the 40% of the games since Colvin has been on the Pats that he's missed?

You will have to grant me that there is at least a 50% chance that 1 of the 7 starting front 7 players will be on IR come January and that would leave a place for Taylor.

 

[BRiZ]

Colvin is younger. Colvin is a 3-4 OLB, Taylor is a 4-3 DE.
The 3rd round pick has a lot of value.
How much are you upgrading an OLB group that has Vrabel, Colvin, and Thomas by adding an old player who will have to play out of position?

Colvin will be 31 when the season starts, hes coming off a broken foot and has a 7 millish cap value. He has never really been dominant. Neither has Vrabel he got most of his sacks this year against scrub teams like the jets and washington and he dissapears against elite competition. They arent the type of pass rushers Jason Taylor is. Taylors a DE yea but he can play OLB, he played it in Sabans 3-4 and had the best year of his career and won defensive MVP. Taylor is the type of player you need to scheme for and double team. We dont have that on the outside, id cut Colvin and give up a 3rd for Taylor, cap is the same and Taylor would be hungry for a ring.

As far of an upgrade how much would it have? Id say pretty close to what Moss brought to the offense, Taylor would bring that to the D. Imagine Taylor and Thomas on the outside? Sick.

 

[Deus Irae]

What about the 40% of the games since Colvin has been on the Pats that he's missed?

You will have to grant me that there is at least a 50% chance that 1 of the 7 starting front 7 players will be on IR come January and that would leave a place for Taylor.

That doesn't make Taylor worth the #7 pick overall. Look, I like Taylor and I think he could be a great addition. I think he could be used in a manner similar to how McGinest was used. I simply feel that, given that you're looking at a 1-2 year role there, it's worth a 2nd-3rd round pick, at most, to a team that's already fine at OLB and DE.

 

[PatsFan24]

trade down to get a 2nd round pick, then trade the 2nd round pick to JT

 

[RayClay]

I wouldn't give a 1st rounder, but I'd love taylor.

I'm no expert on LB play, but I think he can pass cover as well as the LBs we have now. Might be weak against the run, but he's a very versatile, unusual player.

Just ask Matt Cassell.