The issue I see is that you're arguing with yourself. There isn't a single poster who has ever said that it isn't a team sport. Even Brady has said it's the ultimate team sport.
Who are you responding to?
Nobody, nothing weaker than responding to a poster and not replying directly. It means someone wants their weak take to go unchallenged.
And sure, the same Brady zealots co-opt every single thread they enter to tell us he has magic powers and that’s how they won six rings, like this thread…. every…. single… time.
What you fail to acknowledge, over and over and over again, is that different positions have more effects and influences on the outcome of games.
This ^ has never happened ever. I can acknowledge the importance of QB’s without ascribing total team results to that one position. Brady didn’t block on the OLine, he didn’t play special teams or defense. According to you jokers he is the alpha and omega. He put up the greatest single performance in Super Bowl history against the Eagles and lost to Nick Foles… maybe Tom needed to try harder
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Drew Brees led the league in passing in 2016 and won 7 games, Deshaun Watson was the best QB in the league in 2020, led the league in passing and had the best stats of his career… his team won 4 games. Newsflash: it wasn’t because Watson or Brees QB magic wasn’t strong enough… it was their teams.
You seem to view the QB, gunner, and LB as being equal, since they all have a role to play. You continuing to state that it's a team game over and over again, is just lazy, since no one is saying otherwise.
Again, completely false. The gunner is more important to kick coverage than Tom is, especially after the offense fails. There are three phases to football, offense and defense are about equal, special teams is the glue that makes both sides better. They’re all important. Green Bay got bounced from the playoffs last season because their ST’s unit made 4 mistakes and turned the ball over to the other team. Newsflash: it wasn’t because Aaron Roger’s QB magic ran out.
The fact of the matter is that the QB position is universally considered as the most important in this team sport. You can have a defense that doesn't allow any points, but if you don't score, you've got nothing. The game is about scoring.
No it’s not, this game is about points… specifically point differential. Points scored versus points allowed. This statement about offense above is one of the most ignorant things I’ve read here this year… congrats. This isn’t fantasy football. The second most important stat in football is turnovers, because they most correlate to points.
The QB is the main contributor to the scoring game. Therefore, the QB is the main position in the game. Of course you need D and ST to do their jobs since they're a part of the game, but nobody in those 2 groups has the same weight of the QB.
We get it, QB’s are important, something nobody has denied. In 12 years in Detroit Matt Stafford went to the playoffs 4 times and had zero playoff wins. Jared Goff inherited the Lions team that won 4 games with Matt a season prior and lost one more game than he did. Meanwhile in one season on the Rams Matt won a Super Bowl with a team Jared had there with two seasons prior.
Seems the big difference between Matt and Jared, the difference between a “good” QB and an “average” QB, the level of importance... equals about one win.
Your use of a handful of non-elite QBs as proof that you don't need a top 10 or elite QB to win SBs is also pathetically weak. It's fine, you continue to believe that Bill can win w/ just any QB, while we wait for it to actually happen.
A plethora of average/good QB’s winning Super Bowls is uncomfortable for the QB fanboys like yourself because it shoots holes in the magical unicorn QB theory. And show me where I said Bill or anyone
"can win with any QB,” it never happened. Seems your entire response here is built upon putting words never uttered into my mouth… a pile of horse dung.
I have always maintained you need at least
“good” QB play to win in the playoffs. I said the Pats were doomed in 2020 because Cam was toast before a single game was played. I say often Lamar Jackson is an inaccurate passer who will never win a Super Bowl. I know QB’s are important to the offense.
I say TEAM is more important than any one player, and this is unequivocally true. Stats and history prove this again and again and again.