Patriots Pregame Thread Week 17 pregame: Pats vs Jax

[ctpatsfan77]

Is Hoyer vaxxed?

Last I heard no

 

[gitgronked82]

I guess teams going forward will try and play man against us: We'll need to get Jonu more involved as well as Hunter

Something to consider here- Nkeal’s snap count was super high this week (like 90%+ iirc) and is quite high in general these days. AND a large share of these come in 21 or 12 personnel- so he’s one of only 2 WRs out there (sometimes the only wr). I know they value his blocking, but I’d other teams are going to play man against us, I think the pats should put guys on the field who can beat coverage. If you have a fullback in and also keep a TE in to block (or have an extra OL), it’s too costly to have a WR who can’t separate.
Give me jakobi, Agholor, and Bourne please… and if jonnu is out there, can we use him on a route past 3 yards? I’m more in the camp of believing he isn’t being used in other ways than he CAN’T be used in other ways… he was effective in TEN.

 

[sb1]

Stidham time, baby!

It’s time King.

 

[Marko]

Maybe, Bills have the top ranked passing defense. A lot of things do not work well playing those kinds of pass defenses.

Typically, when the other team doesn’t fear your receivers or also thinks they can get to the QB quickly.

 

[Deus Irae]

Something to consider here- Nkeal’s snap count was super high this week (like 90%+ iirc) and is quite high in general these days. AND a large share of these come in 21 or 12 personnel- so he’s one of only 2 WRs out there (sometimes the only wr). I know they value his blocking, but I’d other teams are going to play man against us, I think the pats should put guys on the field who can beat coverage. If you have a fullback in and also keep a TE in to block (or have an extra OL), it’s too costly to have a WR who can’t separate.
Give me jakobi, Agholor, and Bourne please… and if jonnu is out there, can we use him on a route past 3 yards? I’m more in the camp of believing he isn’t being used in other ways than he CAN’T be used in other ways… he was effective in TEN.

Smith never got to 450 yards in a season.

 

[Marko]

For real? JFC man! I’m not trying to make excuses, but how many of these guys that have had their performance drastically drop are possibly battling illnesses? Maybe not all Covid, but the flu and whatnot as well? Judon just has not looked like the same dude out there lately. Less energy.

FWIW my whole family has had a non Covid flu that lasts a long time, it is definitely going around, and I know Judon has a young daughter.

 

[jmt57]

Jacksonville is (or should be) in Tank Mode. They control their own destiny for the number one overall pick in the draft.

That would result in a somewhat rare occurrence: a team finishing with the league's worst record in consecutive seasons. The last time that happened was following the 2017 (28-3) and 2018 seasons when the immortal Hue Jackson followed up a 1-15 season with 0-16 perfection. The Browns selected Myles Garrett and Baker Mayfield in those two drafts, elevating the team from the abyss to mediocrity. The Browns were also the previous team to double down in mediocrity in 1999 and 2000, though to be fair they were an expansion team at that time. Unfortunately for them they used those opportunities to select Tim Couch and Courtney Brown. Ouch.

The only other post-merger teams with back-to-back epic failures were the Bengals in 1994-95, the expansion Bucs in 1976-77, and the Bucs again in 1986-87 - when they infamously drafted Bo Jackson, even though Bo had emphatically told Tampa that there was no way that he would sign with them.


Jacksonville is on the clock.

 

[Mack Herron]

Uche and King also

 

[Jlaff]

Pats better not play down to the Jags level.

For a seemingly unmotivated team following the bye (probably lots of congratulatory "Boogeymen" references amongst them) I don't feel good about the team suddenly being motivated to up its game against the worst team in the league.

 

[italian pat patriot]

Jacksonville is (or should be) in Tank Mode. They control their own destiny for the number one overall pick in the draft.

That would result in a somewhat rare occurrence: a team finishing with the league's worst record in consecutive seasons. The last time that happened was following the 2017 (28-3) and 2018 seasons when the immortal Hue Jackson followed up a 1-15 season with 0-16 perfection. The Browns selected Myles Garrett and Baker Mayfield in those two drafts, elevating the team from the abyss to mediocrity. The Browns were also the previous team to double down in mediocrity in 1999 and 2000, though to be fair they were an expansion team at that time. Unfortunately for them they used those opportunities to select Tim Couch and Courtney Brown. Ouch.

The only other post-merger teams with back-to-back epic failures were the Bengals in 1994-95, the expansion Bucs in 1976-77, and the Bucs again in 1986-87 - when they infamously drafted Bo Jackson, even though Bo had emphatically told Tampa that there was no way that he would sign with them.


Jacksonville is on the clock.

Wellcome back !!! Great to read you again

 

[Deus Irae]

Jacksonville is (or should be) in Tank Mode. They control their own destiny for the number one overall pick in the draft.

That would result in a somewhat rare occurrence: a team finishing with the league's worst record in consecutive seasons. The last time that happened was following the 2017 (28-3) and 2018 seasons when the immortal Hue Jackson followed up a 1-15 season with 0-16 perfection. The Browns selected Myles Garrett and Baker Mayfield in those two drafts, elevating the team from the abyss to mediocrity. The Browns were also the previous team to double down in mediocrity in 1999 and 2000, though to be fair they were an expansion team at that time. Unfortunately for them they used those opportunities to select Tim Couch and Courtney Brown. Ouch.

The only other post-merger teams with back-to-back epic failures were the Bengals in 1994-95, the expansion Bucs in 1976-77, and the Bucs again in 1986-87 - when they infamously drafted Bo Jackson, even though Bo had emphatically told Tampa that there was no way that he would sign with them.


Jacksonville is on the clock.

And there's not a QB worth taking #1 overall, so the Jags can target their favorite OL without worrying about it.

 

[PWRxWLF]

Uche and King also

If I a meteor could fall and destroy one persons car, thus preventing them to make it to a game, it would be Josh Uches car.

 

[gitgronked82]

Smith never got to 450 yards in a season.

I know, yeah. But he was an effective player (8 TDs in 15 games last year is certainly an impact), and this wasn't just from screens and jet sweeps. Feels to me like we haven't used him downfield beyond the short aspects of our passing concepts since that rough Saints game in week 3, and we certainly haven't been targeting/isolating him in the redzone much. I think there's potential there.

 

[TomPatriot]

It’s time King.

Burger King.

 

[TomPatriot]

Julio Jones has been a bust for the Titans this year. Even when he plays, he mostly has been invisible. A huge waste of a second round pick.

Jon Robinson needed his own Sanu Moment.

 

[Deus Irae]

I know, yeah. But he was an effective player (8 TDs in 15 games last year is certainly an impact), and this wasn't just from screens and jet sweeps. Feels to me like we haven't used him downfield beyond the short aspects of our passing concepts since that rough Saints game in week 3, and we certainly haven't been targeting/isolating him in the redzone much. I think there's potential there.

Last year was the only year he had any real number of TDs, though.

2
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8
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It's just an outlier to this point.



I'm not saying that he's never going to become what many here envisioned. I'm just pointing out that he's never been that to this point in his career. I hope he puts it together moving forward.

 

[Jlaff]

And there's not a QB worth taking #1 overall, so the Jags can target their favorite OL without worrying about it.

Isn't that how it always goes though, until a few months before the draft and then these QBs become the hottest thing since ass-less chaps?

 

[Rob0729]

Isn't that how it always goes though, until a few months before the draft and then these QBs become the hottest thing since ass-less chaps?

Yeah, it seems like every other year or every few years or so that the talk in January and February is there is no QB worthy of being taken early in the first round and by April the first overall pick is a QB and two or three of the top 10 picks are QB. Obviously, the Jags are not going to pick a QB with the #1 pick, but they might trade it away since there will be several QB needy teams with a lot of draft capital.

 

[Pats1971]

And there's not a QB worth taking #1 overall, so the Jags can target their favorite OL without worrying about it.

The Jags are not going to take a QB anyway. They need to build around their QB they have.

 

[ashley]

Getting everyone ready for Wednesday: