PATRIOTS NEWS Vrabel's Staff Discussion Thread (Discuss related news here)

[RobertWeathers]

right. you think that the system that josh played somewhere else a few years ago is the system that he will play.

Yes. It'll be a derivative of EP

Also, you seem to think that McCartney is a lousy QB coach who wouldn't continue to help Maye.

Based on what?

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That being said, Josh can judge.

Sure he can.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Bengals hired Montgomery as D line coach. Already hired our O line coach. Guess we are about to find out if they both sucked, or of Jerod Mayo really was that bad.

I’m just working off the assumption that the answer is yes.

 

[Zuma]

Bengals hired Montgomery as D line coach. Already hired our O line coach. Guess we are about to find out if they both sucked, or of Jerod Mayo really was that bad.

IMO it was Mayo, injuries and bad moves by Wolf. I think Peters is good OL coach. We will see.

 

[dliverey44]

Stop trying to re-live the old patriot way. Brady is gone. Become innovative, adapt and move on.

If you do not think McD can adapt then I am not sure you have watched enough football over the years.

 

[Toofy]

I feel peters was just put in a bad spot and the play calling left too much on Oline plate. Quick dump offs and screens and QB runs could have created some pauses for teams which were looking to rush 4 and overwhelm the line. And yes the talent was atrocious. That's on wolf. Hopefully This year is better with strange, onwenu, Andrews and Robinson as core linemen and lowe and Wallace as backup linemen. For all the hate Lowe gets here I have a sneaky feeling he would gradually improve and get his second contract here.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

If you do not think McD can adapt then I am not sure you have watched enough football over the years.

McD has been updating his play oak since he's been out of coaching, he adapts just fine.

 

[dliverey44]

I actually like AVP but understand why he is gone, but I hope they keep TC McCartney. Dews is a Vrabel guy, so I wonder if that move is Vrabel or if McD has say in it.

 

[mgteich]

I feel peters was just put in a bad spot and the play calling left too much on Oline plate. Quick dump offs and screens and QB runs could have created some pauses for teams which were looking to rush 4 and overwhelm the line. And yes the talent was atrocious. That's on wolf. Hopefully This year is better with strange, onwenu, Andrews and Robinson as core linemen and lowe and Wallace as backup linemen. For all the hate Lowe gets here I have a sneaky feeling he would gradually improve and get his second contract here.

BOTH OF THESE CAN TRUE

1) Peters was put in a terrible spot.

2) Peters couldn't coach well enough to avoid way too many pre-snap penalties.

 

[Love The Drake]

Bengals love our coaches.

Bengals Hiring Former Patriots DL Coach Jerry Montgomery To Same Role

According to Paul Dehner Jr., the Bengals are hiring former Patriots DL coach Jerry Montgomery as their new defensive line coach. Cincinnati is reportedly hiring Notre Dame's Al Golden as their new defensive coordinator, making

nfltraderumors.co

 

[mgteich]

I actually like AVP but understand why he is gone, but I hope they keep TC McCartney. Dews is a Vrabel guy, so I wonder if that move is Vrabel or if McD has say in it.

I think that the answer is yes.

Josh should and will provide input on any hire that will report to him. That being said, Vrabel should and will make the choices.

 

[Love The Drake]

bengals Hiring Notre Dames Golden as DC

 

[Huckleberry1]

right. you think that the system that josh played somewhere else a few years ago is the system that he will play.

Also, you seem to think that McCartney is a lousy QB coach who wouldn't continue to help Maye.
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That being said, Josh can judge.

MacDaniels ran the same system his entire career as an OC, it would be a surprise if he didn’t run it.

 

[bakes781]

bengals Hiring Notre Dames Golden as DC

He really has the CFP to thank for that. Did a great job up until the championship game.

 

[Sect140]

Even though it was posted in here yesterday that Liam Coen had already been hired by the Jaguars....

I’m guessing he will replace Todd Bowles as head coach eventually.

 

[Love The Drake]

I’m guessing he will replace Todd Bowles as head coach eventually.

Make sense.

 

[captain stone]

IMO it was Mayo, injuries and bad moves by Wolf.

In Montgomery's case, I agree.

I think Peters is good OL coach...

Based on what? This was his first time being the main OLC; and his men as a unit were the Worst in football.

BOTH OF THESE CAN TRUE

1) Peters was put in a terrible spot.

2) Peters couldn't coach well enough to avoid way too many pre-snap penalties.

Bingo.

Bengals love our coaches.

Bengals Hiring Former Patriots DL Coach Jerry Montgomery To Same Role

According to Paul Dehner Jr., the Bengals are hiring former Patriots DL coach Jerry Montgomery as their new defensive line coach. Cincinnati is reportedly hiring Notre Dame's Al Golden as their new defensive coordinator, making

nfltraderumors.co

I'm surprised the DL performed so badly here, because Montgomery has a ton of experience coaching DLs. He & Bicknell were by far the most experienced coaching their positions than anyone else was coaching theirs.

 

[Give Kraft A Hand]

He was terrible.

Next thing Kahn needs to do is tell his stats geek dork of a son to butt out of football decision-making and go play with his soccer team instead.

Or AEW

Seriously there’s a lot of stuff Tony could do…why does he have to be involved with the Jags?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Or AEW

Seriously there’s a lot of stuff Tony could do…why does he have to be involved with the Jags?

I think the father wants the son to learn the business. Shah is 74 so still young. Who knows what the hell is going on down there.

 

[JohnJH]

At least so far, it's starting to look like the adults are back to running things.

 

[maust]

At least so far, it's starting to look like the adults are back to running things.

Nuts and bolts competency is suddenly back en vogue in Foxborough.
Now there's a concept