Trey Flowers: “We’ve got six, we want seven.”

[Snooky97]

Flores didn't clear a ton of cap for nothing.
If Tre turns the money down and stays in New England he will become of my favorite Patriot players.
I have a feeling being with Flores south beach no income tax will be too much to reject.
Who knows how close the Patriots offer will be.
I wouldn't be shocked we are 4 million a season apart.

If someone offers him north of 17m he’s gone in my opinion, I think the most they will go is 15.5 a year maybe 16 but even then I can’t see it

 

[Love The Drake]

If someone offers him north of 17m he’s gone in my opinion, I think the most they will go is 15.5 a year maybe 16 but even then I can’t see it

The magic number in my head is 13

 

[Love The Drake]

Nick Foles is gonna eat up a nice chunk of the space they just cleared, or is he going to Jax?

I was thinking that Foles would be perfect for Miami.
Unless they are trading for Rosen or think their guy will be in the draft don't understand what they plan to do at QB.

 

[GodBrady]

You can't take what a player says in a pep rally-ish environment as indicative as what his plans are. What do you expect him to say? "Hey, #6 was great, but I'm gonna leave for more money with the Jets! Peace!" It's lip service, he's gonna cater to the crowd.

I hope he stays but imo his quote is meaningless and is in no way, shape, or form a "hint" as to what his plans are.

 

[FoxboroFlyer]

I was thinking that Foles would be perfect for Miami.
Unless they are trading for Rosen or think their guy will be in the draft don't understand what they plan to do at QB.

Yeah, I realized after I posted that Foles is headed to Jax. more likely than not...but I don't recall hearing any plans at QB for Miami other than they're trying to trade tannehill. Weird.
Rosen would make sense, no doubt. I guess they're starting to be connected to Drew Lock in the draft, also.

 

[Snooky97]

The magic number in my head is 13

He’s gone if it’s 13 I think. Brandon Graham
Got that at 32 I think? Flowers is only 25, he’s looking at 15 upwards

 

[Love The Drake]

Yeah, I realized after I posted that Foles is headed to Jax. more likely than not...but I don't recall hearing any plans at QB for Miami other than they're trying to trade tannehill. Weird.
Rosen would make sense, no doubt.

I really would like Rosen here but I think to be fair he'd much rather play for Miami then sit here behind the ageless one.

 

[Love The Drake]

I really would like Rosen here but I think to be fair he'd much rather play for Miami then sit here behind the ageless one.

 

[50-yard-line]

Reiss is usually plugged in and has maintained his stance that the NEP are keeping Flowers for weeks. Thought he would be a bit more conservative like he usually is but he seems pretty confident in his prediction.

I just read his ESPN piece where he correctly points out that Bennett and Flowers are different players in different parts of their career.

If the money gets crazy, oh well, but I think the Pats are planning on making Flowers a very fair and solid offer.

 

[50-yard-line]

I'd like to have some stability on our DL.

Sometimes it is like a revolving door...

Offer Trey a 4/5 yr deal. Maybe $12-$13/yr and see if he is interested....

Going to be more like 5/80 with 40+ guaranteed, I expect.

 

[Love The Drake]

Going to be more like 5/80 with 40+ guaranteed, I expect.

That's too much money for him love Trey but that's too much dough.

 

[supafly]

The magic number in my head is 13

I think it’s going to be closer to 13-14 than it is some of these outrageous numbers people are throwing around. Then again, it only takes one team and we do have two former DCs as HCs out there.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I love Flowers, but I can’t inagine how he’s more valuable than Gilmore. Especially when you consider that almost every team has at least one strong defensive end, while not many teams have a really good CB1.

Seems like there are tons of guys on the market every year that can pressure the QB. Good luck finding an impact CB who got overlooked and provides good value.

I don’t think the Patriots will re-sign Flowers. Defensive ends are just easier to find on the fly and on the cheaper side. Today’s trade for Bennett is one example of many throughout the years.

 

[Deus Irae]

“My daddy say don’t count the chick until the egg hatch”

 

[SBLIII]

Michael Bennett's arrival shouldn't close door on Trey Flowers

 

[micronin127]

Whatever the numbers end up being, I will celebrate the re-signing of Trey Flowers.

Pats can create cap space a lot of ways
1. extend Brady
2. extend Gronk
3. convert salary to bonus Gilmore
4. convert salary to bonus Hightower
5. extend Van Noy

They could release players too, but predicting that is a downer. I love this team.

 

[Nikolai]

I don’t think the Patriots will re-sign Flowers. Defensive ends are just easier to find on the fly and on the cheaper side. Today’s trade for Bennett is one example of many throughout the years.

Possibly. I hope he's more Mark Anderson than Derrick Burgess.

 

[farn]

NE has won SBs after letting HoFers/HoF candidates walk (or leave via trade). While I love Flowers, he has been an amazing player (4th rounder, besides) and I wish him well on his next team.

 

[patman52]

Nobody (or nobody smart) making that kind of change gives a rat's ass about a few % state income tax. 5% on a million $$$ is $50k, or a moderately bad day on the market for someone making that kind of money.

The money in the top-end contracts is more about ego (and agents) than the actual extra few million.

so you think there is little advantage in playing in Cal or new York with a 12% state tax rate over a mill and 2x real estate over texas or Fl. Over 5 years that is almost 10 mill on a 75 mill contract. Even Mass it is closer to 8%. They are already giveing 30% to the feds so that 75 mill is now 52 mill then take away 12% more percent or 8 mill you are down to 45 say. so the delta is between 45 mill and 52 mill. or 9 mill a year vs 10.5.

 

[50-yard-line]

so you think there is little advantage in playing in Cal or new York with a 12% state tax rate over a mill and 2x real estate over texas or Fl. Over 5 years that is almost 10 mill on a 75 mill contract. Even Mass it is closer to 8%. They are already giveing 30% to the feds so that 75 mill is now 52 mill then take away 12% more percent or 8 mill you are down to 45 say. so the delta is between 45 mill and 52 mill. or 9 mill a year vs 10.5.

At that level, it doesn't matter one bit with regard to your lifestyle. Not one iota. 15 million or 17 million? It's a number, little more, and hundreds of thousands become rounding errors.

I live in SoCal in the winter. The place is full of huge income folks - right down the street from me, on the Strand in South Bay (Hermosa/Manhattan), you can't touch a house for under 10m - and many in the 20m+ range (and there's rarely anyone staying in them, either, even though they're not for sale).

10% matters a lot more to someone making under a 100k than it does to someone making 500k...and matters a lot more to someone making 500k than it does to someone making 10m+. The actual dollar figures are a lot higher, sure, but the effect of that difference becomes less important as income increases (basic economics: the diminishing marginal utility of money). Once you get a salary into 7, 8 figures, it's just a number in a bank. You want to buy something? Buy it?

Worrying about affordable health care? Umm, no.

Worrying about retirement? Only if you're incredible stupid with your wealth.