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    Dated January 2018. It's October 2019.

    Not sure I understand the relevancy of how pff rated him in 2017 (2 years ago) his rookie season.

    I mean because just last year there was this



    So according to pff last year Howard was the 2nd best TE in the nfl.
     
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    Trading Howard could end up like Martz and the Bears trading Greg Olsen.
     
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    Sickening
     
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    That’s very different from saying that they won’t be able to make a deal at all.
     
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    I like Howard and all but 2nd best TE in all of football in 2017 or even in the ballpark last year? I don't see it.

    He was not better than Kelce, Ertz, Kittle or even Gronk. You could argue a few more were ahead of him
     
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    He plays on the Bucs, I mean... of course his NFL career has been bad so far.
     
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    Not trading for OJ Howard (for example) wouldn't be because of cap space. He would only be $780k the rest of the season and with the "top 51" rule would only lower the cap space about $300k.
     
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    not that im advocating but you can simply rephrase it as business as usual
     
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    Would you trade Sony for OJ?
     
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    What happened to the no Jason or Mort tweet request that I made? ;)

    Just what I want from an “insider”...hunches.
     
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    Jeff goes on in his next tweet to say they’ve traditionally done very well against the Ravens. Lol.
     
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    OK, I am 100% on board with this!

     
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    Further clarification

     
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    I feel like he's coming here.
    I feel like its already done. There's no way we lose Gronk and then have the chance to get this kid for less than 1M for a cap hit and he be signed next year as well.

    Get this man. This is it right here. Kid's open alot, Jameis is just so bad. Trust me, living in Tampa, I see it all the time.
     
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    the suspense is killing me. Make the deal for Howard already!
     
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    I've been wanting the Patriots to go nuts giving Brady weapons for One Last Push since like 2013 so my ideas really shouldn't be trusted. :D

    That said please trade for everybody and go nuts.

    [​IMG]
     
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    I want the juice!
     
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    Agree completely. He hasn’t produced in the NFL, whether that’s scheme or something else, the fact is he hasn’t put up numbers. People saying a first for him? What? I’d rather re create the OBJ package and call Dorsey up if we’re including a 1st rounder in trade talks
     
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    That’s an interesting note from Belichick. The old team can pay a bonus in order to make the player cheaper for the new team, but it has to happen a day in advance. So it looks like Leonard Williams will be the only example of that at this year’s deadline, with the Jets paying $4 million before trading him to the Giants.
     
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