Trade #4 overall for Myles Garret

[Love The Drake]

Trading for 4 Garret is ass9, now if you trade down to the 20s and trade that fist for Garrett we can talk,

 

[sportnik]

Unless his name is Tom Brady, trading the number 4 pick for a 29 year old player is bad business. It's what a dumb franchise would do. You'll be lucky to get 3 good seasons out of Garret & you'll be paying top dollar for him. Much better to get a cost controlled asset & use your cap space on other players.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I said in McDaniels offense he has the physical characteristics and a skill level where he can play that kind of role.

No, he doesn’t. NOTHING about George Pickens says Randy Moss. It’s a ridiculous analogy.

 

[TommyD4207]

No brainer. Elite talent. Team Leader would jump start rebuild. No one at 4 is close to his talent level.
Would browns accept it probably not, might have to throw in a 26 2nd rounder
He has Reggie White like talent

1) He does not have Reggie White-like talent, he's a pass rusher.
2) He's 29 and has an extensive injury history.
3) The only active player worth a top 5 pick ever, is a top 5 quarterback.

 

[Ross12]

I don’t know why you’d trade 4 for Garrett when you can likely get Abdul Carter with the same pick.

I could be talked into a 2nd, but there are other good options in free agency, and that seems like wasting good currency when they have too many other needs at that point.

 

[DaBruinz]

No brainer. Elite talent. Team Leader would jump start rebuild. No one at 4 is close to his talent level.
Would browns accept it probably not, might have to throw in a 26 2nd rounder
He has Reggie White like talent

Garrett turns 30 during this off-season. Yeas, his contract is cheap since the Browns would have to eat the SB prorations.

A starting QB and Mike Vrabel barely netted the Pats a 2nd round pick. So what makes you think that 2 years of Garrett is worth the #4 over-all pick?

Garrett is maybe worth a 3rd rounder at this point.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Trading for 4 Garret is ass9, now if you trade down to the 20s and trade that fist for Garrett we can talk,

I can't see a scenario where they go from 4 to the 20s. I don't think any team has ever made a trade like that from the top 5.

 

[n1997y]

No one in this class is even close to the talent level of him, and he probably has 5 - 6 good years left so I’d trade 4, but there’s about 0 chance he’d accept a trade to the Pats.

No, he has more like 3 good years left. He’s old enough to be starting to decline any time now. He might still be a good NFL player in 4 or 5 years, but no longer superstar caliber, and he’ll be overpriced before then.

Definitely not worth the #4 pick. For #4 overall you want to get a foundational player. One you’ll have for cheap for five years on the rookie contract, and will extend to get another three years or so out of them before they insist on breaking the bank for some other team while they still can.

Garrett is already premium priced, and his best-used-by date is within sight.

No thanks.

 

[Dec54]

No, he has more like 3 good years left. He’s old enough to be starting to decline any time now. He might still be a good NFL player in 4 or 5 years, but no longer superstar caliber, and he’ll be overpriced before then.

Definitely not worth the #4 pick. For #4 overall you want to get a foundational player. One you’ll have for cheap for five years on the rookie contract, and will extend to get another three years or so out of them before they insist on breaking the bank for some other team while they still can.

Garrett is already premium priced, and his best-used-by date is within sight.

No thanks.

Well said, I totally agree. Look at Miami and the mistakes they have made. It's a big no thanks from me

 

[Triumph]

The 31st ranked NFL offense needs to be fixed.

How much will where Garret wants to go play into it? The Pats are years away from a Super Bowl.

 

[Real fan 02]

No one in this class is even close to the talent level of him, and he probably has 5 - 6 good years left so I’d trade 4, but there’s about 0 chance he’d accept a trade to the Pats.

He had 14 sacks last season we had 28 as a team.. I'd love to have a player of his Caliber with that kind of congenital problem. I guess it will all depend what the Browns would want in return.

 

[slash83]

Parsons yeah, Garret no.

 

[Love The Drake]

We need three things going into next season the most.
Fortufying the Oline,
Making the D line more explosive, destructive.
And a semblance of a threat at WR.
Rather that’s going big for Higgins and or Hunter.
Or brining in Vets Like Kupp, Samuel, or Diggs.

 

[Love The Drake]

Parsons yeah, Garret no.

Carter is a younger cheaper version of Parsons.
One thing I’ve noticed in the last few seasons young rookie pass rushers are making an impact very early.
I think this is a position you can bolster in the first 4 tokens of the draft.

 

[Brotherblues]

I can't see a scenario where they go from 4 to the 20s. I don't think any team has ever made a trade like that from the top 5.

If somehow all of Carter, Hunter, and Graham go in the first 3 picks, I would love to be the first team ever who went from picking top 5 to the 20s after multiple trade downs. I mean you could end up filling 3 needs with Simmons/Membou/Conerly for LT, Burden/Golden for WR, and the best dt/edge available all before we go on the clock for a 4th time at pick 38...

(The math is tight, trust me, don't go double checking too hard now...)

 

[slash83]

Carter is a younger cheaper version of Parsons.
One thing I’ve noticed in the last few seasons young rookie pass rushers are making an impact very early.
I think this is a position you can bolster in the first 4 tokens of the draft.

Good chance Carter isn’t available at 4, and the odds of him being as good as Parsons is slim.

 

[XLIX]

I have a feeling this whole spiel is Garrett's way of getting a new deal while he still has 2 years left on his current one.

 

[DW Toys]

The Chiefs will work some more Devil magic to put Myles on the same DLine as Chris Jones

You know what Cousin, I think you are right. How do they do it with their CAP.Howie Rossen of the Eagles might be even a betting man's pick. Graham is retiring. They are going to lose Milton Williams(Patriots?) in FA.

If they were not in the same conference, this smells like a Ravens deal.

He's not coming here because we ROT. This time next year I can see us with a possible 8 wins.....not playoff but competitive if you don't let Groh or Wolfe near a telephone to orchestrate our roster. Hire snipers.

My formula is we have needs on both sides of the ball. The Ravens get away with a mediocre WR room but of course have Lamar. They have a good defense. The Bills can't knock down the door because their defense is still lacking. The Broncos became relevant this year because although Nix played well, their defense got better. Detroit could have won the whole ball of wax with less injuries on defense.

One half of our needs are via FA and the rest the Draft. Use your assets accordingly if you want to swing trades. Remember NFL proven players will help the Pats faster than a Draft pick which upon average is a two -three year learning curve.

My list oF FA or trades includes the following trades::

TRADES:
Jeffrey Simmons DT Titans (was on the block last season. loves Vrabel)

DK Metcalf WR Hawks (might have to send Joe Milton out west. Better than most of this years class. They are listening to Trades)

More at WR? Deebo....we need playmakers. Teams will have to plan for him. .....or.......Kupp. CK will be important to the growth of Maye the nest few years.

FA

LT Cam Robinson. Younger and less than Stanley or I would not say no to him.

DT Milton Williams but he will be expensive

RB Najee Harris

CB Charvarious Ward

DRAFT

Swap with Saints fo pick #9 and and 2nd and 4th rounder and take TE, Tyler Warren

Pick OT Conerly

Pick DE Jack Sawyer

Pick WR Savion Williams

Pick LB Danny Stutsman


And so forth.......But Warren is a must. Hooper will leave.


DW Toys

 

[Boomer B]

No, he has more like 3 good years left. He’s old enough to be starting to decline any time now. He might still be a good NFL player in 4 or 5 years, but no longer superstar caliber, and he’ll be overpriced before then.

Definitely not worth the #4 pick. For #4 overall you want to get a foundational player. One you’ll have for cheap for five years on the rookie contract, and will extend to get another three years or so out of them before they insist on breaking the bank for some other team while they still can.

Garrett is already premium priced, and his best-used-by date is within sight.

No thanks.

In general I agree, but there isn’t anybody in the draft as close to as good as Garrett is right now and likely will be for the next 3-5 years.

Doesn’t really matter though, as there’s no way he’s coming here.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I'm not necessarily 100% against it, but it needs to be a part of a cohesive plan. If you're trading #4 for a guy who will be 30, then you better make sure you're building a roster set to capitalize on his contributions the next few years. They'd need to go CRAZY spending all of their money to build as much of a win now roster as possible. Signing bonuses over salary to borrow money from future years. Basically, if you're making this deal you need to absolutely sell out on having a team that can win a super bowl in the next 3 seasons.

The problem with that is since teams can usually retain their best FAs, it's rare for their to be that much talent in free agency to turn around the least talented team in the NFL to SB caliber. And as promising as Maye is, there's a huge difference between looking like a promising rookie and playing at a SB level. There's usually some growing pains there translating individual play at the QB spot to managing the game enough to win a SB.

I can't say I wouldn't be intrigued with this approach, but not sure it's the best to take.