The Mahomes/Chiefs Discussion Thread

[SHOWTIME15]

All made up stuff

 

[Guts]

All made up stuff

 

[1960Pats]

Solid take, although I wouldn't say Mahomes can't catch Brady. I'm thinking of a sport like tennis where Roger Federer destroyed everything that came before him but then Nadal and Djokovic basically did the same thing. Not saying it's going to be the norm to win 7 Super Bowls, but the league has a lot of parity, so if your quarterback is really on another level of greatness, your team should be able to compete for the championship every year. 5 straight AFCCGs already. I don't think Mahomes will win 7 but who knows...

What I think has happened is that Brady did such an incredible job of winning that he made it appear easier than it was, especially with the "on any given Sunday" NYFL and plenty of injuries.

Mahomes has been somewhat blessed in that he's had all of his playoff games at home even when KC wasn't the top seed. That's called having a horseshoe up your butt and it probably won't continue.

Then there's the issue of money. When Mahomes has a few hundred million in the bank and has been bounced around for a few years we'll see if he has the same incentive that kept Brady going. I doubt it.

And last but not least is Brady's bigger brain and vision. I don't believe that Mahomes can compete with Brady in that regard, even with the help of the NYFL.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

What I think has happened is that Brady did such an incredible job of winning that he made it appear easier than it was, especially with the "on any given Sunday" NYFL and plenty of injuries.

Mahomes has been somewhat blessed in that he's had all of his playoff games at home even when KC wasn't the top seed. That's called having a horseshoe up your butt and it probably won't continue.

True, Brady was never a great road playoff QB until he got to Tampa. Not including super bowls, Brady's road record in the playoffs heading into the 2020 postseason was a mediocre 4-4.

And last but not least is Brady's bigger brain and vision. I don't believe that Mahomes can compete with Brady in that regard, even with the help of the NYFL.

Please tell me how you are evaluating this. Frankly, I don't think you know enough about football to make this kind of judgment.

Touchdown/INT ratio:

Brady - 3.06 (leads all NFL QBs in total playoff INTs).

Mahomes - 3.92

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

This entire "Mahomes is going to be the GOAT and torpedo everyone's records" is almost a disservice to Mahomes. He may or may not and honestly I don't care but why not let him write his story instead of us?

 

[sb1]

(leads all NFL QBs in total playoff INTs).

lol

 

[lancerman]

This entire "Mahomes is going to be the GOAT and torpedo everyone's records" is almost a disservice to Mahomes. He may or may not and honestly I don't care but why not let him write his story instead of us?

Because this thread isn't about Mahomes. It's about an obsessive compulsive fan who lost their mind when Brady didn't stay here and is seeking therapy through sport debate.

 

[crawhammer]

Who says he has to get to 7? He can go 5-1 or 6-1 in super bowls and that’ll be enough if he can beat Brady in touchdowns, yards, etc

Wrong!

 

[crawhammer]

Mahomes relies on his athleticism, mobility and scrambling quite a bit. That's why if he actually had a high ankle sprain then it would have been a big deal, but he didn't, and he milked it anyway for attention which shows he's got some of his degenerate brother in him.

As Mahomes continues to take hits, and piles up some real injuries, then his athleticism, mobility and scrambling will decline as well his overall game as a result. Mahomes won't be able to sustain his style of play into his late 30's and 40's. So we have that to look forward to. And Andy Reid won't be coaching until he's 90.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Wrong!

your opinion. and if you take into account spygate, Mahomes will easily beat Brady

 

[crawhammer]

your opinion. and if you take into account spygate, Mahomes will easily beat Brady

How is 6-1 good enough when the 1 loss is to the QB you're trying to catch and he's 7-3 (with a 2-0 postseason record against you). You're not thinking this through clearly. I'm trying to help you but you can't be reached. You're too bitter.

Spygate is a non-factor. Sorry. No one is ever going to say, Mahomes and Brady are close but Mahomes gets the edge because of Spygate. GTFOH.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

How is 6-1 good enough when the 1 loss is to the QB you're trying to catch and he's 7-3 (with a 2-0 postseason record against you). You're not thinking this through clearly. I'm trying to help you but you can't be reached. You're too bitter.

Because Brady has 3 SB losses. Those count against him. And Brady already has playoff losses against Eli x 2, Tannehill, Foles, Flacco x 2, Plummer, and Sanchez (he's 1-8 vs those QBs in the postseason), all of whom are bums. Did I mention his mediocre 4-4 playoff record on the road as a Patriot?

Spygate is a non-factor. Sorry. No one is ever going to say, Mahomes and Brady are close but Mahomes gets the edge because of Spygate. GTFOH.

Your opinion. The team videotaped their opponents for 7 years straight. only an idiot would think that Bill did this for fun and got little or no advantage out of it.

 

[Steve102]

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Because Brady has 3 SB losses. Those count against him. And Brady already has playoff losses against Eli x 2, Tannehill, Foles, Flacco x 2, Plummer, and Sanchez (he's 1-8 vs those QBs in the postseason), all of whom are bums. Did I mention his mediocre 4-4 playoff record on the road as a Patriot?



Your opinion. The team videotaped their opponents for 7 years straight. only an idiot would think that Bill did this for fun and got little or no advantage out of it.

QB A is 7-3 in 10 super bowls.

QB B is 6-1 in 7 super bowls.

QB B’s 1 loss was against QB A.

Now explain why QB A gets punished for losing 2 more super bowls that QB B failed to reach?

 

[Steve102]

QB A is 7-3 in 10 super bowls.

QB B is 6-1 in 7 super bowls.

QB B’s 1 loss was against QB A.

Now explain why QB A gets punished for losing 2 more super bowls that QB B failed to reach?

QB A is Tom Brady.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

QB A is 7-3 in 10 super bowls.

QB B is 6-1 in 7 super bowls.

QB B’s 1 loss was against QB A.

Now explain why QB A gets punished for losing 2 more super bowls that QB B failed to reach?

QB A’s team is associated with two cheating scandals and that is big. And I said in my analysis that QB B breaks all (or nearly all) of QB A’s records and he could do so in record time. That one loss to QB A in the Super Bowl doesn’t mean anything since QB B was playing with 3 backup offensive linemen. Lastly, QB B is vastly more talented than QB A. Thus, you would have to give the baton to QB B.

 

[crawhammer]

Because Brady has 3 SB losses. Those count against him. And Brady already has playoff losses against Eli x 2, Tannehill, Foles, Flacco x 2, Plummer, and Sanchez (he's 1-8 vs those QBs in the postseason), all of whom are bums.

Your legacy doesn't go down when you win a conference championship. A Super Bowl loss only hurts if you get blown out or play like dogshit.

Why don't you just list every opponent QB Brady lost to in the postseason. Your list gets longer and longer. Just list all 13 and get it over with.

Did I mention his mediocre 4-4 playoff record on the road as a Patriot?

Must have been BB's fault. Brady's 3-0 on the road as a Buc.

And Mahomes has already lost more AFCCG's at home than Brady did in his entire career.

Your opinion. The team videotaped their opponents for 7 years straight. only an idiot would think that Bill did this for fun and got little or no advantage out of it.

That's on BB. The videotaping wasn't the issue either, it was the location from which the videotaping was taking place. There's no evidence that Brady ever benefitted from any of these videotapes. Do you have evidence or proof of that? Let me see it. Otherwise you're just making **** up.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

QB A’s team is associated with two cheating scandals and that is big. And I said in my analysis that QB B breaks all (or nearly all) of QB A’s records and he could do so in record time. That one loss to QB A in the Super Bowl doesn’t mean anything since QB B was playing with 3 backup offensive linemen. Lastly, QB B is vastly more talented than QB A. Thus, you would have to give the baton to QB B.

You bring up Spygate and Deflategate. Post Brady’s before and after stats after each and we can say if those hold some merit.

 

[crawhammer]

That one loss to QB A in the Super Bowl doesn’t mean anything since QB B was playing with 3 backup offensive linemen.

Brady wiped out a 25-point deficit in just over one quarter without Gronkowski. Mahomes must not possess the resilience or mental toughness of Brady. I guess Mahomes needs to be carried by his team. Or the officials.

 

[crawhammer]

You bring up Spygate and Deflategate. Post Brady’s before and after stats after each and we can say if those hold some merit.

You mean he should backup what he's saying with some actual evidence? That's not his style or strength.