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I was talking about the scenario where Brissett goes down before the team is ready to throw Maye into the fire. In that case Zappe would have lost the competition for starter during training camp and ended up as one of the backups, most likely on the PS.
I know I have Zappe as a Camp Fodder I think Milton is a really good selection that will surprise. That said I'm hoping Drake Maye Starts.
It does make sense. Brissett is a solid established veteran, and Zappe provides another layer with starting experience in case of Brissett injury. Zappe can step in if a rookie is not ready, and if a rookie is ready, he's still good to have as a backup instead of being down to just the other rookie. And he's still under contract next season also for cheap, while Brissett is not.
The Skins in 2012 and the Eagles in 2009. The 2012 Skins situation is quite similar to the Patriots this year.
Because they kept him over Rourke.
Really? He's won games as an NFL starter. He has shown he is capable of learning and running an NFL offense. His ceiling is "competent NFL backup." Joe Milton has never played in a pro-style offense, which means he's behind Zappe on day one. He also is extremely inaccurate at less than 20 yards, which is exactly the range most of his throws would be if he had to step in as backup. Milton has a higher ceiling by far, but he is not better than Zappe is right now.
A team should go into training camp with four quarterbacks, not five; one had to go.
in addition, the thought process will include who would get claimed off the PS?
Why Rourke and not Zappe? OP said Zappe is “dogshit.” Rourke is smellier dog ****? For smellier dog ****, he had two teams vying for him after his release.
That’s essentially what I said. Either Maye or Zappe will be #2. Maye’s talent could put him there, or Zappe’s experience. If the OL is decent, it improves Maye’s chances. If not, Zappe will play if Brissette goes down.
There’s a very good chance they go into the season with 4 QBs. This is a rebuild year, not a win-now-optimize-the-roster year.
Of course it’s relevant: there is a lot of uncertainty with respect to Milton’s development. Many, many decisions will be made before the first game with that dynamic in mind. And one of those has already been made: Zappe is still on the team and Rourke isn’t, even the Rourke is likely a better QB than Zappe. NFL experience matters and Zappe is a known quantity.
I didn't say that. Take it up with the person who did. My guess is that the team didn't want to go through the offseason with three rookies and only one veteran.
If Zappe is the #2 QB over Maye, then the Patriots just made a incredibly horrible draft decision that will screw them for years.
Yes, it is a rebuild year. But I still don't see a need for four quarterbacks.
A 4-win team down to its third QB is in trouble no matter who the QB is. Zappe isn't going to suddenly make this team a winner.
Sounds to me like you have already written Milton off. Let's see how far he has progressed by the end of preseason first. If he sucks then keep Zappe. Sixth round picks are not even close to being a lock to make the roster.
Bailey Zappe is indeed a more known commodity with NFL experience. That holds true for dozens of other quarterbacks as well, none of whom I want on this team. He was thrown into a crappy situation, unfortunately. Fans understandably liked him better than Mac Jones. But the reality is that he threw 9 picks to 6 TD with 4.56 net yards per attempt last year.
If the OL is a problem again this year, you want Maye as #2? Really? You want to throw the franchise QB to the wolves during a rebuild year? Wow.
It’s one spot. And if backup #1 is the future of the franchise and backup #2 isn’t ready to run an NFL offense but has a high ceiling, you’re okay with slinging them out there? I’m not.
This isn’t about winning. This about protecting the future of the franchise and a guy who isn’t ready but has a high ceiling (I’ve said this before). I don’t care about wins. In fact, I’d prefer fewer wins.
I’ve said he isn’t ready, and he’s not. I haven’t written him off. Just the opposite: I want to give him a chance to develop without getting slaughtered or throwing him in there before he’s ready, killing his confidence. He has enough raw talent to develop him for the whole year, not just the preseason.
I’m not a Zappe apologist. He’s a known quantity who will perform better if he’s not running for life. He’s shown aptitude for learning a real NFL offense. His teammates like him and will play hard for him. And if a defensive end mangles his throwing shoulder, it’s not the end of the world. We are not going to be a good team, which is great for next year’s draft.
Zappe as starter? I’ve been talking about him as #2 *for this year only* this entire thread. He’s not a starter, this year or any year. My assessment of Zappe is competent cannon fodder if Brissette goes down. If Maye is ready next year and Milton has progressed enough to be #3, Zappe will be released.
Tom Brady played well in college, that was ignored by his college head coach who had a shiny new toy in Drew Henson. Apples/oranges
I was referring to @Patjew’s comment about the last time having four QBs worked out.
Rourke wasn’t/isn’t overrated in Canada - the numbers show otherwise (completed over 70% of his throws, threw a bunch of TDs and few interceptions.,etc) I also got into all of how he did it in the article I wrote, but I won’t rehash it. But he’s not suddenly a terrible player just because he didn’t fit here.
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