The Biggest Reason We Are Starting A Rebuild

[Boomer B]

The biggest reason we are beginning a rebuild is the first picks we drafted from 2014 to now.

2014 - Dominic Easley (1st round): bust
2015 - Malcom Brown (1st round): below average
2016 - Cyrus Jones (2nd round): bust
2017 - Derek Rivers (3rd round): bust
2018 - Isiah Wynn (1st round): average
2019 - N’Keal Harry (1st round): looking like a bust
2020 - Kyle Dugger (2nd round): to be determined

We completely whiffed on 5 of our 7 first picks since 2014. Those are the picks you need to pick studs. Before 2014 Belichick nailed many of those first picks including Seymour, Mankins, McCourty, Jones, Warren, Mayo, Chung, Solder, and Collins.

 

[NormZauchin]

The biggest reason we are beginning a rebuild is the first picks we drafted from 2014 to now.

2014 - Dominic Easley (1st round): bust
2015 - Malcom Brown (1st round): below average
2016 - Cyrus Jones (2nd round): bust
2017 - Derek Rivers (3rd round): bust
2018 - Isiah Wynn (1st round): average
2019 - N’Keal Harry (1st round): looking like a bust
2020 - Kyle Dugger (2nd round): to be determined

We completely whiffed on 5 of our 7 first picks since 2014. Those are the picks you need to pick studs. Before 2014 Belichick nailed many of those first picks including Seymour, Mankins, McCourty, Jones, Warren, Mayo, Chung, Solder, and Collins.

Solder was an average left tackle and has been exposed with the Giants, as he doesn't have a QB with a quick release and a Dante to coach him up. Wynn has a chance to have a better career than Solder.

 

[slash83]

Wynn is not average, he’s good and will only get better.

 

[denverpatsfan]

Yup pretty much! Disagree on Wynn though. He has been solid.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Wynn is ok..except when you consider we passed on STUD Calvin Ridley for him

 

[PatsWSB47]

Solder was an average left tackle and has been exposed with the Giants, as he doesn't have a QB with a quick release and a Dante to coach him up. Wynn has a chance to have a better career than Solder.

Soldier's shelf life expired by the time he was playing for the Giants. He was adequate+ for quite a while

 

[DropKickFlutie]

The biggest reason we are beginning a rebuild is the first picks we drafted from 2014 to now.

2014 - Dominic Easley (1st round): bust
2015 - Malcom Brown (1st round): below average
2016 - Cyrus Jones (2nd round): bust
2017 - Derek Rivers (3rd round): bust
2018 - Isiah Wynn (1st round): average
2019 - N’Keal Harry (1st round): looking like a bust
2020 - Kyle Dugger (2nd round): to be determined

We completely whiffed on 5 of our 7 first picks since 2014. Those are the picks you need to pick studs. Before 2014 Belichick nailed many of those first picks including Seymour, Mankins, McCourty, Jones, Warren, Mayo, Chung, Solder, and Collins.

What year did Reese leave ?

 

[captain insano]

The biggest reason we are beginning a rebuild is the first picks we drafted from 2014 to now.

2014 - Dominic Easley (1st round): bust
2015 - Malcom Brown (1st round): below average
2016 - Cyrus Jones (2nd round): bust
2017 - Derek Rivers (3rd round): bust
2018 - Isiah Wynn (1st round): average
2019 - N’Keal Harry (1st round): looking like a bust
2020 - Kyle Dugger (2nd round): to be determined

We completely whiffed on 5 of our 7 first picks since 2014. Those are the picks you need to pick studs. Before 2014 Belichick nailed many of those first picks including Seymour, Mankins, McCourty, Jones, Warren, Mayo, Chung, Solder, and Collins.

drafting a kicker in the 5th rd that's now on the practice squad didn't help. wasting a 2nd on sanu sucked.

 

[Brick27]

Right because first picks of drafts are the only piece of the puzzle when building a team.

 

[TheRainMaker]

2018 - Isiah Wynn (1st round): average

He's above average. He's really good when the line is intact. The musical chairs at O-line messes up the continuity.

2015 - Malcom Brown (1st round): below average

I'd put him at average.

Solder

He's average and was chasing a lot of DE's but was bailed out by Brady's quick decision/release.

What year did Reese leave ?

2012 was his last year. Reese was with the organization from 2009-2012 which happened to be their best drafts which set up heir next Super Bowl run. Since he's left, the drafts have returned to 2005-2008 level.

We should be lucky the Pats even won one Super Bowl since 2004 since the drafting has been so poor for many years.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

He's above average. He's really good when the line is intact. The musical chairs at O-line messes up the continuity.

I'd put him at average.

He's average and was chasing a lot of DE's but was bailed out by Brady's quick decision/release.

2012 was his last year. Reese was with the organization from 2009-2012 which happened to be their best drafts which set up heir next Super Bowl run. Since he's left, the drafts have returned to 2005-2008 level.

We should be lucky the Pats even won 3 Super Bowls starting in 2014.

Interesting you note 05-08 and 2012-now. These are the years McDaniels has been giving draft input. Zero WRs or TEs drafted and developed over 11 of these yrs

.

 

[slifersd]

It's not like our later round picks were that much better. I recall hearing something like we haven't drafted a pro bowler in five years. Entire draft classes go bust before their rookie contracts even expire. I know a lot of people don't want to hear it, but we do have an issue with drafting. I understand that you can't hit a jackpot with every pick, but our bust rate is just alarming at this point.

 

[Brick27]

Interesting you note 05-08 and 2012-now. These are the years McDaniels has been giving draft input. Zero WRs or TEs drafted and developed over 11 of these yrs

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He’s only as good as the players he has on the field. The narrative of him being a “great” OC is fading fast given he’s only as good as the players he has to work with. Still waiting to see where his added value is in making an offense better than the sum of its parts.

 

[Triumph]

All you guys trashing BB. Leave him alone.

The Chiefs are winning.

 

[BTTA]

I'd like to see what would happen if they were drafting in the middle of the order, with an occasional top ten pick, rather than always at the end.

 

[moosekill]

I'd like to see what would happen if they were drafting in the middle of the order, with an occasional top ten pick, rather than always at the end.

Exactly, or all the lost draft picks the league stole from us. The league is set up to punish winning and reward losing. The Patriots won despite this so the league had to go further and start taking away picks.

 

[farn]

I'd like to see what would happen if they were drafting in the middle of the order, with an occasional top ten pick, rather than always at the end.

I’d like to see the comparables. Many posters are only focused on this team and the misses. But do the other teams hit on every pick ? There are have - of course - been teams that have hit on several key players in successive years. Are they w/o fail for decades ?

The implication is that BB is horrendous at drafting and he has single handedly doomed NE with his failure. I keep asking for the comparables so that we can peek into a ten or twenty year stretch of drafts.

 

[Triumph]

Brady hid all the mistakes including drafting Drew Bledsoe.

Does anyone actually believe that if Bledsoe had been the QB for all of 2001 that the Pats would have won a Super Bowl? Cmon, Man.

 

[Triumph]

Exactly, or all the lost draft picks the league stole from us. The league is set up to punish winning and reward losing. The Patriots won despite this so the league had to go further and start taking away picks.

NO

Because there are plenty of great players drafted in later rounds.

 

[RIpats88]

You restock your roster through the draft. Bill has poorly drafted the last 5 years. Mostly on offense. Our DB drafting has been decent.

It's why we are the oldest team in the league