The 2013 Prospect Thread

[manxman2601]

I'd like to put out a two year early binky alert on Vinnie Sunseri.

I echo this 100% and then some

Burton runs the wildcat right? Maybe the Jets will go after him.

After their laughable gameplanning the other night, I have no idea what they plan to do.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

I echo this 100% and then some

Binky buddies! High five!

Turns out Ziggy Ansah is 23 (since May.) I figured he was like 25 like the rest of BYU. He's on my radar now.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

What do you guys know about Phillip Thomas the safety from Fresno?

 

[ATippett56]

I have plenty of seniors that I like, for all 3 days of the draft, from potential top 10 picks to UDFAs. Guys like DT Star Lotulelei, DT Jesse Williams, DT John Jenkins, DT Kawann Short, DE Tank Carradine, DE Margus Hunt, DE Devin Taylor, DE Dion Jordan, WR Tavon Austin, OL Barrett Jones, OG Johnathan Cooper, PT Brandon Williams, OT Kyle Long, OT Luke Marquardt, TE Michael Williams, just to name a few. Lots more.

2013 NFL Draft - Preliminary Senior Binkies

2nd-3rd Round Prospects

Jesse Williams
Cornellius Carradine
Kenny Vaccaro
Robert Lester
Shawn Williams
Brennan Williams
Jonathan Cooper
Larry Warford

At first glance, the 2013 NFL Draft looks favorable to trade down from the first round and pick up a second round draft selection and a third round draft selection.

 

[manxman2601]

Binky buddies! High five!

Turns out Ziggy Ansah is 23 (since May.) I figured he was like 25 like the rest of BYU. He's on my radar now.

More to the point, Alabama safety binky buddies. Aah, happy memories of last year.

Double dip on Lamarcus Joyner and an early coming out Sunseri next year and we'd have the hardest hitting safety group in the NFL. Every defensive play would be a fumble!!

 

[Avenger]

Derek Mayo, plays OLB but could be at better fit at safety.
Derek Mayo Bio - RichmondSpiders.com - The Official Athletic Website of the University of Richmond

 

[SirApropos]

Don't remember if I saw him somewhere in this thread earlier but someone that should be in contention for that late round OT spot is this guy.

Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific



Someone else's eval.

Height: 6'10
Weight: 320
School: Azusa Pacific
Position: OT

I will start this off with Luke Marquardt. A guy most of you have probably never heard of. Marquardt is massive. Listed at 6'10 320 but Josh Buchanan says he is closer to 6'8. Competition is certainly a concern as Azusa Pacific is a NAIA school. His intangibles are hard to ignore and if he proves he can dominate at a low level there is absolutely no reason why he shouldn't be given a shot. He is a former basketball player so you know he has a quick feet. Long arms as well. Look for him in the future.

The Azusa Pacific OL coach is Jackie Slater, NFL HoFer and father of Patriot Matt Slater. He's also a former TE converted to OT and has quick feet. I'd be comfrotable taking a 7th round flyer or as a UDFA.

http://beyondthecombine.com/luke-marquardt-ot-azusa-pacific-university/

 

[manxman2601]

Chris Steuber has a website and on it, he tracks which CFB games NFL scouts are attending. Looking back through the weeks, here's which games the Patriots are/have attended:

Week 7

TCU at Baylor

NFL teams attending: New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks.

Prospects to watch: Baylor: CB Chance Casey, SS *Ahmad Dixon, DE *Tevin Elliott, QB Nick Florence, CB Demetri Goodson, K *Aaron Jones, OT Cameron Kaufhold, CB *K.J. Morton, TE *Jordan Najvar, WR *Tevin Reese, OL *Cyril Richardson, RB Jarred Salubi, WR Lanear Sampson, RB **Lache Seastrunk, C Ivory Wade, WR Terrance Williams; TCU: WR *Josh Boyce, OLB Kenny Cain, WR Skye Dawson, OT *James Dunbar, OG Blaize Foltz, DE Ross Forrest, C James Fry, RB *Waymon James, DE/OLB Stansly Maponga, QB *Casey Pachall, RB Matthew Tucker.

Week 6

Florida State at North Carolina State

NFL teams attending: Arizona Cardinals, Baltimore Ravens, Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Dallas Cowboys, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, New York Jets, Philadelphia Eagles and St. Louis Rams.

Prospects to watch: North Carolina State: OG Zach Allen, DB *David Amerson, FS Brandan Bishop, TE Mario Carter, DE *Darryl Cato-Bishop, RB *Tony Creecy, OT *Rob Crisp, QB Mike Glennon, OT R.J. Mattes, DE Art Norman, WR Tobais Palmer, DT Brian Slay, OG Andrew Wallace, RB James Washington, TE *Asa Watson, C Andrew Wentz, S Earl Wolff; Florida State: DE Cornellius Carradine, DT Everett Dawkins, K Dustin Hopkins, DE Brandon Jenkins (injured), OLB *Christian Jones, SS *LaMarcus Joyner, QB E.J. Manuel, DT Anthony McCloud, DT Jaccobi McDaniel, OLB Nick Moody, RB Lonnie Pryor, CB *Xavier Rhodes, WR Rodney Smith, RB Chris Thompson, DE *Bjoern Werner, ILB Vince Williams.

Week 5

Clemson at Boston College

NFL teams attending: Baltimore Ravens, Detroit Lions, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Giants, New York Jets and San Francisco 49ers.

Prospects to watch: Boston College: OT Emmett Cleary, WR *Jonathan Coleman, OLB *Steele Divitto, TE Chris Pantale, OLB *Kevin Pierre-Louis, DT Kaleb Ramsey, QB *Chase Rettig, WR *Bobby Swigert, OT John Wetzel; Clemson: QB *Tajh Boyd, CB Xavier Brewer, K *Chandler Catanzaro, RB Andre Ellington, TE Brandon Ford, C Dalton Freeman, DE Mallicaiah Goodman, FS Rashard Hall, WR *DeAndre Hopkins, SS Jonathan Meeks, OLB Jonathan Willard.

Week 4

Baylor at Louisiana-Monroe

NFL teams attending: Atlanta Falcons, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints and New York Jets.

Prospects to watch: Louisiana-Monroe: QB *Kolton Browning, FS *Isaiah Newsome; Baylor: CB Chance Casey, SS *Ahmad Dixon, DE *Tevin Elliott, QB Nick Florence, CB Demetri Goodson, K *Aaron Jones, OT Cameron Kaufhold, CB *K.J. Morton, TE *Jordan Najvar, WR *Tevin Reese, OL *Cyril Richardson, RB Jarred Salubi, WR Lanear Sampson, RB **Lache Seastrunk, C Ivory Wade, WR Terrance Williams.

Week 3

None


Week 2

Auburn at Mississippi State

NFL teams attending: Chicago Bears, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots and Philadelphia Eagles.

Prospects to watch: Mississippi State: DE *Denico Autry, CB Johnthan Banks, DT Josh Boyd, CB Corey Broomfield, WR Chad Bumphis, C *Dillon Day, OG *Gabe Jackson, OLB Cameron Lawrence, RB *LaDarius Perkins, QB *Tyler Russell, OLB *Deontae Skinner, CB Darius Slay, FS *Nickoe Whitley; Auburn: OLB Daren Bates, CB T'Sharvan Bell, WR Emory Blake, DE/OLB *Nosa Eguae, DE/OLB *Corey Lemonier, TE Philip Lutzenkirchen, RB Onterio McCalebb, K *Cody Parkey, WR Travante Stallworth, OG John Sullen, DT *Jeffrey Whitaker.

Week One

Elon at North Carolina

NFL teams attending: Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots, New York Giants, New York Jets, Philadelphia Eagles and San Francisco 49ers.

Prospects to watch: North Carolina: OG Travis Bond, S *Tre Boston, OG Jonathan Cooper, WR Erik Highsmith, OT *James Hurst, DE *Tim Jackson, DE *Kareem Martin, LB Kevin Reddick, QB *Bryn Renner, OT Brennan Williams, DT Sylvester Williams; Elon: WR Aaron Mellette.

Miami (FL) at Boston College

NFL teams attending: New England Patriots, New York Giants and New York Jets.

Prospects to watch: Miami (FL): OLB Ramon Buchanan, RB *Eduardo Clements, TE *Asante Cleveland, DE *Shayon Green, OT *Seantrel Henderson, SS *A.J. Highsmith, WR *Allen Hurns, RB *Mike James, OT *Jermaine Johnson, OG *Brandon Linder, CB Brandon McGee, QB *Stephen Morris, SS Vaughn Telemaque; Boston College: OT Emmett Cleary, WR *Jonathan Coleman, OLB *Steele Divitto, TE Chris Pantale, OLB *Kevin Pierre-Louis, DT Kaleb Ramsey, QB *Chase Rettig, WR *Bobby Swigert, OT John Wetzel.

Colorado State at Colorado

NFL teams attending: Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos, New England Patriots and San Francisco 49ers.

Prospects to watch: Colorado: OT *David Bakhtiari, FS *Jered Bell, OT Ryan Dannewitz, OLB Jon Major, DE Will Pericak, FS Ray Polk, DT Eric Richter, LB Doug Rippy, DE *Chidera Uzo-Diribe; Colorado State: LB *Shaquil Barrett, TE *Crockett Gilmore, OG *Jordan Gragert, RB *Chris Nwoke, C *Weston Richburg

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Southern Methodist at Baylor

NFL teams attending: Atlanta Falcons, Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Cleveland Browns, Dallas Cowboys, Detroit Lions, Houston Texans, Kansas City Chiefs, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That's three Baylor games fwiw


Official Website of NFL Draft Pro Chris Steuber

 

[manxman2601]

In light of possible Baylor interest, Terrance Williams the WR seems like the obvious interest but perhaps it's Cyril Richardson:

Cyril Richardson, OG*- Richardson is a large man, listed at 6’5”, 335 pounds. He played 12 games and started 4 of them at left guard as a freshman before moving outside to left tackle as a sophomore to protect RGIII’s blind side. Now he is shifting back inside to guard where he is probably a better fit due to his natural size and power, but lack of ideal lateral agility to stay at tackle. He could be a solid tackle in my opinion, perhaps more if he was played at right tackle, but I think his highest upside is inside at guard due to his size and arm length. He isn’t overly explosive out of his stance, but he has shown the ability to pancake defenders in the run game and generate some push. I’ve seen him make a few mistakes mentally in pass protection, particularly on stunts or strange blitz packages, so that will be something to keep an eye on this season at guard.

Cyril Richardson « Tom Melton's NFL Draft Blog

 

[mackenzie45220]

For me:

Seniors:

Chance Warmack
John Cooper
Dallas Thomas
Ziggy Ansah
Cornelius Carradine
Quinton Patton
Leon McFadden
Lonnie Pryor
Jake Knott



Juniors:

LaMarcus Joyner
Dee Milliner
Jordan Reed
Trey Burton
DeAndre Hopkins
Alec Ogletree
Matt Elam
Joseph Randle
Kyle Fuller
Kyle Van Noy
Stedman Bailey
Brandon Coleman

Not exhaustive lists, but these are the prospects that evoke more than a rational. logical response in terms of need and fit. These are prospects "I want". As you can see, next year will be a really enjoyable year for me potentially.

I'm either neutral towards or in love with everyone on that list.

 

[mackenzie45220]

Don't remember if I saw him somewhere in this thread earlier but someone that should be in contention for that late round OT spot is this guy.

Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific


Someone else's eval.



The Azusa Pacific OL coach is Jackie Slater, NFL HoFer and father of Patriot Matt Slater. He's also a former TE converted to OT and has quick feet. I'd be comfrotable taking a 7th round flyer or as a UDFA.

I need to tell you, if you are that tall and play offensive line, it's a disadvantage. More often than not, the low man wins in football. He's so tall that I highly doubt he can get good leverage against any defensive linemen, unless his flexibility is absolutely off the charts. If his flexibility is superb (Nate Solder fits), then his height and length are an advantage. But he probably would need to be able to touch his toes to have any kind of NFL success.

If you want to see an example of how height can hurt you as a blocker, watch Levine Toilolo. The guy is a great on pass plays, but can't get any leverage against the run.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I need to tell you, if you are that tall and play offensive line, it's a disadvantage. More often than not, the low man wins in football. He's so tall that I highly doubt he can get good leverage against any defensive linemen, unless his flexibility is absolutely off the charts. If his flexibility is superb (Nate Solder fits), then his height and length are an advantage. But he probably would need to be able to touch his toes to have any kind of NFL success.

If you want to see an example of how height can hurt you as a blocker, watch Levine Toilolo. The guy is a great on pass plays, but can't get any leverage against the run.

Great point, that's partially why I like Kyle Long as a late round binkie at Tackle.

 

[manxman2601]

I'm either neutral towards or in love with everyone on that list.

Would like to know who you are in love with.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

In light of possible Baylor interest, Terrance Williams the WR seems like the obvious interest but perhaps it's Cyril Richardson:

I haven't watched Williams, but I'd be pretty upset if they took a non-elite WR in the first round. Richardson at 335 is quite a bit heavier than our any of our guards since I can remember.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

I need to tell you, if you are that tall and play offensive line, it's a disadvantage. More often than not, the low man wins in football. He's so tall that I highly doubt he can get good leverage against any defensive linemen, unless his flexibility is absolutely off the charts. If his flexibility is superb (Nate Solder fits), then his height and length are an advantage. But he probably would need to be able to touch his toes to have any kind of NFL success.

If you want to see an example of how height can hurt you as a blocker, watch Levine Toilolo. The guy is a great on pass plays, but can't get any leverage against the run.

What range would you expect Toilolo to go if he declared?

Do you know of any videos Rontez Miles? I couldn't find any.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

Great point, that's partially why I like Kyle Long as a late round binkie at Tackle.

And he's from Oregon so he has ample experience in the full speed no huddle

 

[Snake Eyes]

And he's from Oregon so he has ample experience in the full speed no huddle

I like him even more

 

[fightingirish595]

if we could get taylor lewan and larry warford, i would be a very happy man. i really like those 2 guys right now. that could change. idk much about that tackle from oregon

check that... idk anything about him

 

[ATippett56]

if we could get taylor lewan and larry warford, i would be a very happy man. i really like those 2 guys right now. that could change. idk much about that tackle from oregon

check that... idk anything about him

I would temper your expectations for Lewan.

Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

 

[fightingirish595]

I would temper your expectations for Lewan.

wow 14th? espn has him graded an 80 right now, but it doesnt really matter till the draft. i love big 10 lineman