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Content Post The 2012 season: the Jets [Mod Edit: STILL] suck

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At this point, what good is Burress to them? They are going nowhere, so they might as well try to develop some kids instead of wasting time on a guy who will be retired by next year, if he isn't already.
Not that they thought this through, its more kind of correct by default.

28 year old Holmes is out for the season.

Jason Hill is 27 years old and has been in the league for 5 seasons. This will be year 6.

Chaz Shilens is 27 years old and this is his 5th season in the league.

Clyde Gates is 26 years old and was mired far enough down in the pathetic Dolphins receiving corps that he's got 3 catches in 2 seasons.

Stephen Hill is out with an injury, but could be put back as the WR1/WR2 upon his return without any real issue.


Where are these kids that are going to be developed?
 
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the Jets offense is a chicken....CLUCK AND BAWK...maybe they can give fans a green chicken ride before they go to their seats , to amp them up for the excitement inside....OG OG OG JTSE!!!

 
the Jets offense is a chicken....CLUCK AND BAWK...maybe they can give fans a green chicken ride before they go to their seats , to amp them up for the excitement inside....OG OG OG JTSE!!!


The Jets offense is not a chicken, it's Tunescribe's parrot, who daily distributes the output of their offense. In those purty green colors.
 
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28 year old Holmes is out for the season.

Jason Hill is 27 years old and has been in the league for 5 seasons. This will be year 6.

Chaz Shilens is 27 years old and this is his 5th season in the league.

Clyde Gates is 26 years old and was mired far enough down in the pathetic Dolphins receiving corps that he's got 3 catches in 2 seasons.

Stephen Hill is out with an injury, but could be put back as the WR1/WR2 upon his return without any real issue.


Where are these kids that are going to be developed?
If your season is lost its better to find out what a 27 year old can do than put on a guy on the field for his farewell tour.
I'm not sure what purpose you would expect Burress to serve. Do you think they can contend, or he would be back next year. Guess I am confused by what you are trying to say here.
 

What a bunch of crap this rating is. I nearly stopped reading after they included Santonio Holmes in a category that they describe as:

An excellent NFL player who would either start for every team in the league, or would have any team in the league loving to get him (example: Quinton Coples falls into this category because of his potential, recent draft position, and big upside).

I guarantee you that at least 25 teams wouldn't touch Holmes for the veteran minimum when healthy. Plus including rookies and second year players who have done little (Wilkerson ) or nothing (Coples) is laughable. And yet again, Jets fans and media are still overrating Ferguson.

I did stop reading when they included LaRon Landry in a category that is described as:

A solid NFL starter that just about any team in the NFL would like to have, or a player with a lot of value.

Landry had so much value that the Pats took Stephen Gregory over him and Belichick couldn't be bothered to meet with Landry when he came to Foxboro. And the Jets gave him a modest one year deal because no one wanted to give him a good long term deal.
 
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You know, it's really easy for anyone to just waltz in here and say "**** the Rats!"









So NO excuses, keep it coming!

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If your season is lost its better to find out what a 27 year old can do than put on a guy on the field for his farewell tour.
I'm not sure what purpose you would expect Burress to serve. Do you think they can contend, or he would be back next year. Guess I am confused by what you are trying to say here.

Woody Johnson has reason to be concerned that an utter disaster on the field will hurt his PSLs. There's a huge multi-page thread on Jets Insider discussing the financial and legal ramifications of walking away from your PSL payments. That could snowball into utter financial disaster if the Jets remain as pathetic for the next 4 games...which they will.
 
Here is a thread with Rat fans lamenting no longer having Parcells, but then realizing all the negatives that he brought.

Man I miss Big Tuna! - Jets Insider.com Forums


After reading this you can't blame Rat fans for wondering if some days, it's even worth getting out of bed and tampering with other franchises.
 
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Here is a thread with Rat fans lamenting no longer having Parcells, but then realizing all the negatives that he brought.

Man I miss Big Tuna! - Jets Insider.com Forums

Great thread Gr8est! Here we have a team that is tied for 1st in the AFC East with the Patriots and undefeated in the division, and the fans are in complete panic.

My favorite post is the one where the guy suggests the Jets hire Bill Cowher as both Head Coach and GM (not a terrible idea) and two sentences later the same poster suggests bringing Eric Rat Snitch Ingrate Mangini back.

Mangini? Really?

Jets fans are desperate after week 4 and there'e tons of football yet to be played. You know, they really are morons down there.

It's funny. I think Santonio Holmes going on the IR is addition by subtraction. He is such a divisive force in the locker room and with the media, that his absence gives Kerly, Schillens, Gates and Hill the chance to blossom.

The Jets know they can beat the Dolphins and the Bills - they already have, and they have such daunting opponents as the Colts, the Rams, the Jaguars, the schizo Eagles who will be without Vick by then, etc. I can see the Jets, as lame as they are, going 9-7 if they catch a break or two and find a way to deploy their genie in a bottle, Tim Tebow.

It's too early for the total freakout down there. I do hope they keep it up. It's fun to follow.



I can also seem them going 5-11.
 
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What a bunch of crap this rating is. I nearly stopped reading after they included Santonio Holmes in a category that they describe as:

Heh, you were meant to take it with humor. The higher ratings are obviously a joke as they are far too generous. What makes it funny though that is that this list was supposedly written in a pessimistic tone by a jets fan.

Aside from Mangold and Revis that team doesn't have anything. And Rex said that this is potentially the most talented team he has coached. Talk about not having the pulse of the team.
 
And Rex said that this is potentially the most talented team he has coached. Talk about not having the pulse of the team.

It's sort of hard to get the pulse from a cadaver.
 
One of the things Jets fans like to take regarding Sanchez is the "He was better before/when" approach. Having tired of reading that over and over, I decided to look at his individual games. Here's the reality, as broken down by QB rating:

Rookie year:
100+ - 3 times
90 to 100 - 1 time
70 to 90 - 5 times
Below 70 - 6 times

Second year
100+ - 4 times
90 to 100 - 0 times
70 to 90 - 5 times
Below 70 - 6 times

Third year
100+ - 2 times
90 to 100 - 4 times
70 to 90 - 4 times
Below 70 - 6 times

This year, so far
100+ - 1 time
90 to 100 - 0 times
70 to 90 - 0 times
Below 70 - 3 times

Sanchez has been remarkably consistent in his inconsistency, and he's very rarely shown excellence. In each of his 3 full seasons, he's tossed in 6 games where his QB rating was below 70, and he's only gone over 100 nine times (3 times per year, on average).

So, when you look at the numbers on a game-by-game basis, you see that Sanchez wasn't clearly better year 1, or year 2, or year 3. He's simply been the same stiff, year after year, and he's basically giving the Jets 6 games a year where they should lose based solely upon QB play. The most significant difference, such as it is, is simply that his biggest "suck" games were worse as a rookie than they have been since (He had one game with an 8.3 rating for example), and that should come as no surprise to anyone.

In contrast, Brady's been below 70 just 4 times in that same period, 3 of those 4 times came in his first year back from the ACL injury (2009) and the only other time Brady was below 70 was when he had a 69.5 in the 2010 game against the Ravens. He's had 32 games with a QB rating above 100 in that same stretch of time.

Despite the insistence of a large portion of Jets fans, the suck of that franchise, in terms of on-the-field-play, starts with the QB.
 
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After Miami gift wrapped the Jets a "W" Rex spent the week envisioning himself on top of Mt Olympus staring down at mere mortals, as they heaped lavish praise on him for his mighty rise to stardom shouting...

"Your #1 in the division Rex, you're BETTER than Bill Belichick"

he thought to himself 'I know I am and I deserve a Lumbardi trophy' after days of dreaming and basking in his own glory Rex got a knock on the front door from his arch nemesis better known as Reality wearing Red and gold uniforms and sporting the number 49.

The rest is barely worth printing in the history books.
 
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One of the things Jets fans like to take regarding Sanchez is the "He was better before/when" approach. Having tired of reading that over and over, I decided to look at his individual games. Here's the reality, as broken down by QB rating:

Rookie year:
100+ - 3 times
90 to 100 - 1 time
70 to 90 - 5 times
Below 70 - 6 times

Second year
100+ - 4 times
90 to 100 - 0 times
70 to 90 - 5 times
Below 70 - 6 times

Third year
100+ - 2 times
90 to 100 - 4 times
70 to 90 - 4 times
Below 70 - 6 times

This year, so far
100+ - 1 time
90 to 100 - 0 times
70 to 90 - 0 times
Below 70 - 3 times

Sanchez has been remarkably consistent in his inconsistency, and he's very rarely shown excellence. In each of his 3 full seasons, he's tossed in 6 games where his QB rating was below 70, and he's only gone over 100 nine times (3 times per year, on average).

So, when you look at the numbers on a game-by-game basis, you see that Sanchez wasn't clearly better year 1, or year 2, or year 3. He's simply been the same stiff, year after year, and he's basically giving the Jets 6 games a year where they should lose based solely upon QB play. The most significant difference, such as it is, is simply that his biggest "suck" games were worse as a rookie than they have been since (He had one game with an 8.3 rating for example), and that should come as no surprise to anyone.

In contrast, Brady's been below 70 just 4 times in that same period, 3 of those 4 times came in his first year back from the ACL injury (2009) and the only other time Brady was below 70 was when he had a 69.5 in the 2010 game against the Ravens. He's had 32 games with a QB rating above 100 in that same stretch of time.

Despite the insistence of a large portion of Jets fans, the suck of that franchise, in terms of on-the-field-play, starts with the QB.

It does seem magical that somehow he managed to go from "next year is the year" to "he used to be better" without ever actually being better than bad. Based on the progression of most good or better QBs by now they've likely seen all that Sanchez will ever be, and that's simply not good enough. There's no reason for that team to continue to put their cart behind that donkey besides the money he's owed. The Tebow experiment is obviously boneheaded, but it's definitely better than simply doing the same thing over and over and hoping for different results. Their best course of action is to ride out the season doing whatever will help them fill seats and start eating the bad contracts they've handed out in hopes to build (I'd say rebuild, but that's a stretch) in a few years.
 
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