Steve Belichick Is The Best Playcaller Available

[TheRainMaker]

If this team was in clear contention, my vote would be yes. Since they are not, It's better he learns from his mistakes now.

But it really doesn't matter because Bill wants his son to rise up the ranks to be an eventual HC so we have to live with it.

 

[mgteich]

But it really doesn't matter because Bill wants his son to rise up the ranks to be an eventual HC so we have to live with it.

His son would be helped by coaching elsewhere for awhile.

 

[‘Mondre]

Yep. It absolutely starts and stops with Bill.

The habit of blaming FO personnel, coordinators and position coaches and not BB is moronic.

So why have a coordinator?

 

[RobertWeathers]

So why have a coordinator?

Serious question?

Coordinators install the packages to use 3rd down, goal line, etc. Call the game. Recommend personnel groupings, etc.

Some coordinators are more hands-on/off than others. Some HCs are more hands-on/off than others.

 

[Hyped]

As I understand it….on game day…with the Pats coaching staff…everyone is listening on the radio. McD talks to Mac, Steve relays play calls, and Mayo has input…all while BB is listening and interjects here and there when needed. BB manages the game…challenge calls, time outs, etc…. And then from time to time we see BB go to the bench to talk to the D with some diagrams.

So, IMHO….the buck stops with BB. No ifs nor buts.

I have no idea how much the defense’ demise had to do with Steve ’s play calling….will have to look at the tape sometime during the off-season to form an opinion. But yeah…I question the combo of Mayo/SB…I think one needs to be made the de-facto defensive coordinator…just for continuity’s sake.

Nepotism has nothing to do with anything. BB wouldn’t have Steve nor Brian on the staff if they weren’t any good…and both of them worked their way up the right way. I’d be screaming nepotism if BB made Steve the defensive coordinator after 1-2 seasons with the team. SB was hired almost a decade ago….and worked his way up…the same as Patricia, Flores, Mangini….all of who weren’t made the coordinator until they had some more seasoning. And before that he played football for Schinao at Rutgers… not to mention he grew up in the household of arguably the greatest defensive mind in NFL history…. I don’t know about you guys, but my old man taught me a lot..even when he wasn’t trying to.

 

[Simpelton]

If this team was in clear contention, my vote would be yes. Since they are not, It's better he learns from his mistakes now.

But it really doesn't matter because Bill wants his son to rise up the ranks to be an eventual HC so we have to live with it.

Hardly the first HC 's son to become an HC. While it's clear that Bill wants Steven to rise up the ranks I think it's pretty clear that he's not promoting Steve over his head. As a coach Steve's units usually perform if they don't outperform.

Steve would have probably gotten the same promotions within a year or 2 of when he got them, without Bill at the head of the org. While I understand the concerns about nepotism, it's hard to find fault with the work Steve has done and he clearly understands defenses fairly well in his own right.

Another org might have promoted/hired Steve formally as the DC a year or 2 ago in fact.

 

[captain stone]

Knowing that unqualified crap like Little Stewie, Can't Assford, Mickey Lombardi & Brick aren't going anywhere for awhile is depressing as Hell.

 

[borg]

, it's hard to find fault with the work Steve has done and he clearly understands defenses fairly well in his own right.

No punts vs AFCE champs

 

[captain stone]

Hardly the first HC 's son to become an HC. While it's clear that Bill wants Steven to rise up the ranks I think it's pretty clear that he's not promoting Steve over his head. As a coach Steve's units usually perform if they don't outperform.

Wrong.

Steve would have probably gotten the same promotions within a year or 2 of when he got them, without Bill at the head of the org. While I understand the concerns about nepotism, it's hard to find fault with the work Steve has done and he clearly understands defenses fairly well in his own right.

WRONG.

Another org might have promoted/hired Steve formally as the DC a year or 2 ago in fact.

And ARE YOU COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR ****ING MIND wrong.

 

[venecol]

Another org might have promoted/hired Steve formally as the DC a year or 2 ago in fact.

 

[Schmo]

Sh!t. Thought you were talking about Bill's dad. Can I change my vote?

 

[borg]

Hardly the first HC 's son to become an HC. While it's clear that Bill wants Steven to rise up the ranks I think it's pretty clear that he's not promoting Steve over his head. As a coach Steve's units usually perform if they don't outperform.

Steve would have probably gotten the same promotions within a year or 2 of when he got them, without Bill at the head of the org. While I understand the concerns about nepotism, it's hard to find fault with the work Steve has done and he clearly understands defenses fairly well in his own right.

Another org might have promoted/hired Steve formally as the DC a year or 2 ago in fact.

Your creative process fascinates me.
“Steeeeeeeeeeve…………”
I think I understand

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The Pats played the Bills three time in a month, the first time was in a wind storm, and they held them to 10 points.

The second time was at home, and they scored pretty much everytime they touched the ball.

The third time was a few weeks later, and ZERO changes were made, the Pats were humiliated!! They had zero punts in TWO GAMES! ZERO!

Buffalo scored TDs on its first seven straight drives. ANYONE who was responcible for that perfomance should be sacked!

Sometimes, you get caught off guard, but Buffalo did not change a thing between games 2 and 3, so that is entirely on scheme and coaching.

You have to pressure Allen, you can't just let him sit there for 9 seconds! He makes mistakes when he is pressured.

Any other DC would have been fired after that game, Stevie Boy is lucky he still has a job.

 

[archstanton543]

The Pats played the Bills three time in a month, the first time was in a wind storm, and they held them to 10 points.

The second time was at home, and they scored pretty much everytime they touched the ball.

The third time was a few weeks later, and ZERO changes were made, the Pats were humiliated!! They had zero punts in TWO GAMES! ZERO!

Buffalo scored TDs on its first seven straight drives. ANYONE who was responcible for that perfomance should be sacked!

Sometimes, you get caught off guard, but Buffalo did not change a thing between games 2 and 3, so that is entirely on scheme and coaching.

You have to pressure Allen, you can't just let him sit there for 9 seconds! He makes mistakes when he is pressured.

Any other DC would have been fired after that game, Stevie Boy is lucky he still has a job.

What if they did their postmortem on the playoff game and found that the strategy was sound it was just that they didn't have the horses to pull it off? Coaches are responsible for getting the pieces in the right places but if the players can't do their job (to coin a phrase) it's not necessarily on the coach that set them up in the correct spots.

(I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here)

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

What if they did their postmortem on the playoff game and found that the strategy was sound it was just that they didn't have the horses to pull it off? Coaches are responsible for getting the pieces in the right places but if the players can't do their job (to coin a phrase) it's not necessarily on the coach that set them up in the correct spots.

(I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here)

If that's the case, then the coaches should have realized that long before the game even started. Everyone always says that BB puts his guys in a position to do what they do best on the field. Clearly that didn't happen in either of the two Buffalo games.

Did they really expect the secondary to cover receivers for 9 seconds? If that was your game plan, you should be working at McDonalds

 

[Simpelton]

If the coaches realized there was nothing they could do, why is it there fault if there was nothing they can do?

 

[venecol]

If the coaches realized there was nothing they could do, why is it there fault if there was nothing they can do?

If the coaches realized there was nothing they could do, that would make them incompetent and should get fired.

 

[Simpelton]

If the coaches realized there was nothing they could do, that would make them incompetent and should get fired.

That's stupid. You either have the personnel or you don't. If the plan doesn't work but was the best plan available then the coaches did their job.

 

[mister clyde]

Steve or whoever, the Pats need a clearly designated and accountable DC so the players know who's in charge.

The players probably DO know, even if it's a bit more murky from the outside.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I think it's BS the players were "confused" who was calling the shots.

This narrative is probably coming from a player who has played like crap and is looking to blame someone/something instead of their ****ty play.

Please