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Something very small i noticed that separates Brady and Manning

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  1. Deus Irae

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    Tremendous post. You found a way to insult both Peyton Manning and Lebron James in the same sentence.
     
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    If I recall correctly he was responsible for TWO points in that game!
     
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    Yep...LeBron has carried teams to championships, showing up in the biggest games. He isn't perfect, but he is damn good. I would compare his 3-1 comeback against Golden State to what Brady did in the SB. That was a 73 win team and LeBron was epic. Okay, not quite Brady heroics, but you get the point. Does Manning even have a signature moment, besides being handed an undeserved participation MVP trophy and giving the crowd a paid-for Budweiser plug? I mean, really, Manning's postseason heroics highlight reel is practically nothing. There are too many games to even list for Brady.
     
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    I have some acquaintances that are Colts/Manning fans and they have long since dropped arguing Manning vs. Brady. The only thing they have left now is some silly argument that Rodgers is somehow more "gifted" than Brady, that if he only had Belichick, he'd win every year. They always have to hop over to something...
     
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    For most of his career LeBron was known as a choker. He even quit on his team in the playoffs against Detroit early in his career.
     
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    More like four. It's hard to count that second one. Manning was legitimately the worst QB in football that year. They won it in spite of him. He was just along for the ride. He has two rings like Floyd has one.
     
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    I'd like to see the drive charts from Peyton's 55 TD season and see what % of his TD passes came from the 1 yard line compared with other elite QBs.

    I have a hard time buying that Peyton was ever thinking about his stats over winning. He was a class act and probably the 2nd greatest QB of all time. He deserves some respect.
     
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    Was Peytons HGH year the year he broke Tommys TD record?
     
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    Bill Russell is the GOAT and it isn't even close.
     
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    One of those players might have more championships than the other three combined.

    EDIT: You might be able to throw Lebron in there too.
     
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    Something very small ... yeah the size of Manning's testicles.
     
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    Not really myth busted. If a Team makes it to the 1 or 2, four times and rushes it in three, and passes one, versus another team making it to the same point twice and rushing it in once and passing it once it would say something but the stats would say one passing TD each.

    The percentage of Manning team passing TDs from the 1 or 2, vs Manning team rushing TDs, compared to the same for Brady is the relevant statistic. I don't know how to find that though.
     
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    I think the Brady v PManning debate is a great example of an awesome Passer in Manning versus an awesome Quarterback in Brady.

    Brady raises the game of everyone around him, even when his #1 receiver would be a weak 2 on a lot of teams (although even he couldn't redeem David Terrell's career). His focus and determination - year round - shames the rest of the roster into doing more. He is the epitome of "Lead by example". And now, after SB 51, those traits have reached legendary status.

    That's why he IS the GoAT.
     
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    Tom Brady is going to play so long that he will own every single passing record when he retires.

    I can't wait to see the horror in Peyton's eyes as all his precious records fall.
     
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    Something small that separates Brady from Manning....

    3 rings
    2 inches of less forhead
    Clutchness
    90% less squawking and flapping during audibles
    He doesn't always put his helmet back on after he loses a game

    Edit: some of my items aren't small. For example, 2 inches of less forhead and Peyton might have also had a supermodel wife
     
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    Interesting post.

    In 2013, from the opponents 1-10 yard line, the Broncos had 134 plays. They ran 58 times (43%), and scored 15 rushing TDs, while passing 76 times for 33 TDs.

    In 2007, from the opponents 1-10 yard line, the Patriots had 143 plays. They ran 70 times (49%) for 18 rushing TDs, while passing 73 times for 29 TDs.

    This year, from the opponents 1-10 yard line, the Patriots had 126 plays. They ran 74 times (59%) for 19 TDs, while passing 52 times for 17 TDs.

    The rushing game might not have been as effective from a TD perspective, but there was a concerted effort for some balance in 2007, while this year they really concentrated on running the ball down near the goal line.
     
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    also, look at Rodgers. he will take a sack instead of throwing the ball away because it will hurt his "passing cpercentage" record that he holds. so he would rather keep his record than make the play that will give his team the better chance to get a first down. brady always throws that ball away that hurts his completion percentage
     
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    He HAD a reputation like that but i'm pretty sure that's almost been ERASED. Sort of like how they USED to say asinine things like Brady hadn't won in 10 years and that too has now been ERASED.

    LeBron got some terrible Cavs teams a long way and the second you paired him with a guy like Wade it was over for the league.
     
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    Brady=Jordan + Pippen. I don't think any other modern day athlete comes close.
     
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