So Michael Sam Is Gay, Who Cares? Can He Rush The QB?

[BradyFTW!]

Not everyone in New Orleans participates in Mardi Gras. More or less every single homosexual in Provincetown participates in drag queenery and inappropriate public behavior.

Well that's just not true. I know tons of gay people who have no interest in drag queenery or pride parades.

What goes on in San Franpsycho and Provincetown condemns the behavior of homosexuals much more so than Mardi Gras reflects the people of heterosexuals. The people at Mardi Gras making an embarrassing spectacle of themselves aren't doing it because they're heterosexuals; they're doing it because they're idiots.

Again, I know a lot of gay people, and not a single one of them has any interest in pride parades. Most don't.

The people in Provincetown prancing around the streets in womens clothing are doing it because they're flaming gay and mentally and psychologically deranged, which are two things that are likely connected.

... wow. Have you actually been to Provincetown?

If you invite a guy over for dinner and he shows up in a beehive wig and a pink dress, are you going to thing he's a lunatic?

That would be my first instinct.

How am I wrong?

Again, you're severely misinformed as to what the average gay person is like. I'd find the guy in your hypothetical scenario weird, in much the same way that I'd find an aggressively macho guido with a wife beater and a spray tan weird.

 

[PATS16N0]

Same challenge to you as to everyone else who's going with the "homosexuality is unnatural" position: define natural.

Seriously, either give a definition for what's natural or quit whinging about how unnatural it is. Or just continue screaming nonsense.

Natural:
existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.
"carrots contain a natural antiseptic that fights bacteria"

(of fabric) having a color characteristic of the unbleached and undyed state; off-white.

2.
of or in agreement with the character or makeup of, or circumstances surrounding, someone or something.
"sharks have no natural enemies"

Yeah, don't think that includes psychological abnormalities.
So sorry. You lose.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Natural:
existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.
"carrots contain a natural antiseptic that fights bacteria"

(of fabric) having a color characteristic of the unbleached and undyed state; off-white.

2.
of or in agreement with the character or makeup of, or circumstances surrounding, someone or something.
"sharks have no natural enemies"

Yeah, don't think that includes psychological abnormalities.
So sorry. You lose.

Well, homosexuality exists in nature. Checkmate.

And even if you maintain that homosexuality is a psychological abnormality, psychological abnormalities also exist in nature, so they're natural too. So sorry, better luck next time.

 

[PP2]

The makeup of a man is to be attracted to a woman. Never mind the shape of the genitalia, as lurker already pointed that out. But for purely procreation purposes. Men can only naturally procreate with women. Men cannot procreate with other men and women cannot procreate with other women. Homosexuality is more of an exception than it is natural. And please don't think I condemn that lifestyle. I don't. Being gay is not a choice and, again, it should not hold Sam back from pursuing his career. But it's not natural.

Then by your definition, those who don't procreate are unnatural. This includes those who are infertile, impotent, et al.

What rights do you have to judge what is natural and not natural?

You blew your stack when Shockt327 drew comparison to how blacks were treated in the 1950's, but he is right. Blacks were considered "unnatural" back then, to the point that they could not go to the same restroom, share the same water foundation, or even eat in the same place as everyone else.

Your insistence on judging what is natural and not natural makes you no different than the men who made the Jim Crow laws.

 

[PATS16N0]

Again, you're severely misinformed as to what the average gay person is like. I'd find the guy in your hypothetical scenario weird, in much the same way that I'd find an aggressively macho guido with a wife beater and a spray tan weird.

Spare me. I remember when I was younger my Mother had this friend who was gay and appeared normal in every single one of our encounters. He dressed normal. He acted normal. He spoke normal. He was just "a little gay."

We ran into him on day in Northampton and he was dressed up in leather speedo's and dominatrix straps walking around on the sidewalks.

You people like to portray them as `just like everyone else,` just gay.
Sorry, but living in Massachusetts, I've had enough experienced to know that isn't true. I suspect you just lack the powers of observation to notice.

 

[PATS16N0]

Well, homosexuality exists in nature. Checkmate.

And even if you maintain that homosexuality is a psychological abnormality, psychological abnormalities also exist in nature, so they're natural too. So sorry, better luck next time.

People also mutilate their bodies and amputate healthy limbs.
It doesn't make it "natural" because it exists.

Psychological abnormalities exist. That's not "working as intended" so the argument that it's "existing in nature" is pretty flawed.

 

[PP2]

Not everyone in New Orleans participates in Mardi Gras. More or less every single homosexual in Provincetown participates in drag queenery and inappropriate public behavior.

What goes on in San Franpsycho and Provincetown condemns the behavior of homosexuals much more so than Mardi Gras reflects the people of heterosexuals. The people at Mardi Gras making an embarrassing spectacle of themselves aren't doing it because they're heterosexuals; they're doing it because they're idiots.

The people in Provincetown prancing around the streets in womens clothing are doing it because they're flaming gay and mentally and psychologically deranged, which are two things that are likely connected.

If you invite a guy over for dinner and he shows up in a beehive wig and a pink dress, are you going to thing he's a lunatic?

That would be my first instinct.

How am I wrong?

You are getting way off point here.

You are making an unwarranted assumption that all gay people dress up that way and attend scandalous parades. You couldn't be more wrong.

Your posting pictures does nothing because it is not representative of what gay people are. Gay people come from all ways of life. Your boss might be gay for all you know.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Spare me. I remember when I was younger my Mother had this friend who was gay and appeared normal in every single one of our encounters. He dressed normal. He acted normal. He spoke normal. He was just "a little gay."

We ran into him on day in Northampton and he was dressed up in leather speedo's and dominatrix straps walking around on the sidewalks.

You people like to portray them as `just like everyone else,` just gay.
Sorry, but living in Massachusetts, I've had enough experienced to know that isn't true. I suspect you just lack the powers of observation to notice.

So you're judging 10% of the population based on an one person that you knew when you're a kid. You sound like a really smart guy.

By the way, I used to live in Boston. Now I live in Los Angeles. My best friend and boss are both gay (I didn't know my boss was gay until I went to his house for dinner and met his partner). I guarantee that I've had far, far more experience being around gay people/subculture than you have. I'm just not bothered by it because I'm not a raging bigot.

 

[PP2]

Spare me. I remember when I was younger my Mother had this friend who was gay and appeared normal in every single one of our encounters. He dressed normal. He acted normal. He spoke normal. He was just "a little gay."

We ran into him on day in Northampton and he was dressed up in leather speedo's and dominatrix straps walking around on the sidewalks.

You people like to portray them as `just like everyone else,` just gay.
Sorry, but living in Massachusetts, I've had enough experienced to know that isn't true. I suspect you just lack the powers of observation to notice.

So by your definition, anyone who dresses up is "abnormal?" This would include halloween or anyone who dresses up on special occasions.

 

[PATS16N0]

You are getting way off point here.

You are making an unwarranted assumption that all gay people dress up that way and attend scandalous parades. You couldn't be more wrong.

Your posting pictures does nothing because it is not representative of what gay people are. Gay people come from all ways of life. Your boss might be gay for all you know.

Pictures of gay pride parades from all over the nation don't represent who gay people are?

You people can't even be honest, which is just further reason to find you untrustworthy.



Should I ignore my lying eyes and assume the above picture is more indicative than nation wide gay pride parades because it works better for your political objectives?

 

[PATS16N0]

So you're judging 10% of the population based on an one person that you knew when you're a kid. You sound like a really smart guy.

By the way, I used to live in Boston. Now I live in Los Angeles. My best friend and boss are both gay (I didn't know my boss was gay until I went to his house for dinner and met his partner). I guarantee that I've had far, far more experience being around gay people/subculture than you have. I'm just not bothered by it because I'm not a raging bigot.

lol

Again, you people are just not trustworthy because you have to rely on all manner of things except honesty to make your feeble points, and the above post is a pretty glaring example of that.

 

[PATS16N0]

So by your definition, anyone who dresses up is "abnormal?" This would include halloween or anyone who dresses up on special occasions.

More deceitfully motivated debate tactics from the pro-homosexual militants.

Keep them coming.

 

[PP2]

Pictures of gay pride parades from all over the don't represent who gay people are?

It's pretty obvious you haven't met many gay people. Not that I am surprised, though.

 

[supafly]

If you want to be a homosexual, be my guest. I'd rather that you don't openly act like a woman around me with your prancing and high pitched squeals, but I have the right to excuse myself from those instances, and you have the right to act like a man, a woman, a robot, or an animal just the same. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me.

If you want to dislike homosexuals, be my guest as well. It's your right, and just like many other subjects, you'd probably have some valid points that make some sense. I do not dislike gays, nor anyone who treats me with respect. That's how I choose to handle it---but that doesn't make "me" right, it's just my personal choice.

In the case of a gay player in the NFL, I think it's unfortunate, but my fear is that it may be too focused on until it's more of an "accepted" practice. That may not happen until other openly gay players come out as well, to help pave the way. Even Michael Sam's father is practically disowning him right now in the media, which will only make this situation even more volatile for future news coverage and controversy. As soon as many see it as a "bold" move that took guts, his father reminds everyone how insanely crazy and disgusting it is, which will make others possibly think twice about applauding his move if they were sitting on the fence to begin with.

 

[PP2]

More deceitfully motivated debate tactics from the pro-homosexual militants.

Funny that you are calling us militant when you are the one making death threats.

Thankfully, you'll all be dead soon... bigots!

 

[PP2]

If you want to be a homosexual, be my guest. I'd rather that you don't openly act like a woman around me with your prancing and high pitched squeals, but I have the right to excuse myself from those instances, and you have the right to act like a man, a woman, a robot, or an animal just the same. Whatever floats your boat is cool with me.

So you are saying there are no straight people who act like a jackass? There are a number of straight people that I would not invite to any of my parties because I know they will act like *******s once the booze flows.

What's the difference?

 

[PATS16N0]

It's pretty obvious you haven't met many gay people. Not that I am surprised, though.

Yes, I'm so culturally deprived because I don't hang out with men who prefer other men in their ____. I fairly regularly visit Europe, am an avid reader, appreciate the fine arts, but... I just don't have any homos in my life.

I'm just totally incomplete.

How about transgenders? Men who wanted to surgically remove their genitals so they can pretend to be women even though they're not. I suppose this is all perfectly natural, as well, and there's absolutely no chance it has to do with a severe psychological malfunction?

And anyone who thinks those people are mentally deranged, I imagine, are bigots?

I really don't think you guys have any idea how ****ed up your view of the world is. lol.

I'm assuming you got roped into the `tolerance religion` at an early age and now just take marching orders. In twenty years I'm sure you'll have a brand new type of degenerate to "fight for" in some imaginary cause.

 

[Joker]

How many mass murderers can you name who were gay? Or is mass murdering more acceptable than events such as the above? Which one does more harm to society?

It seems to me in that regard, straight people do a lot more harm to society.

Uh...Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy immediately come to mind...

 

[PATS16N0]

Funny that you are calling us militant when you are the one making death threats.

That was a parody of something BradyFTW said earlier in the thread, Professor.
Not a "death threat."

Can you be anymore of a victim?

 

[PATS16N0]

I could care less about homosexuals. That really is the truth, not that your minds, prone and programmed for intolerance, would understand that. When people are quietly and modestly gay, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.
There was a time when they understood that they were different and just went about their lives.

However, those days have passed, and they decided they wanted to turn this into an ideological struggle, opening themselves up to the arena of ideological enemies, and thus became fair game for criticism. The more extreme they want to act, the more extreme will be the criticism.

Get used to it.