So, how you feeling about our draft class?

[dliverey44]

This is fun, the irrational grading of a draft in 7 months.
Loved the Maye pick, he was my favorite QB in the draft
Liked the Polk pick, but I think it is mainly because I miss Jakobi Meyers and Polk reminds me of Jakobi
liked this pick but thought the LT talk was completely unreasonable. I think he will be a decent RT in our future.
Liked this pick because Sow and Mafi are/were not stalwarts and competition needed
indifferent about Baker, I think he will be decent eventually
Liked the Dial pick mostly because Pellegrino is a magician
Did not like the Milton pick at all because I do not think he can be an NFL QB, but picks this late are lottery tickets
Heh on Bell

 

[Huckleberry1]

Be fair Ivan. It’s not even about being superstars. None of them even have a pulse. If’s like the walking dead out there. Just awful.

Brady didn’t have a pulse either.

 

[JohnJH]

1 (3): QB Drake Maye, North Carolina.
- loved the pick and has flashed real talent. We have our starting QB
2 (37): WR Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington.
- liked the pick but he has struggled. I still expect him to be a good WR for us
3 (68): OT Caedan Wallace, Penn State.
- hated the pick. He has some good film but don't think he is anything special
4 (103): G Layden Robinson, Texas A&M.
- I liked the pick and think he is gong to be a good G for us
4 (110): WR Javon Baker, UCF.
- I loved the pick and thought this was the steal of the draft (along with TE Bell). He has struggled to learn the playbook by all accounts and hasn't seen that much playing time. head scratcher but i am confident. could be a guy like Boutte that took a couple years but now shows flashes.
6 (180): CB Marcellas Dial, South Carolina.
- late round pick so you get what you get. I think he has turned out pretty good so far for a 6th rd pick
6 (193): QB Joe Milton III, Tennessee.
- another steal in the late round. would love for him to get some playing time if Maye is out. No need to play Jacoby any longer
7 (231): TE Jaheim Bell, Florida State.
- loved the pick and thought it was one of the steals of this draft. look forward to seeing how he develops

They should be using Bell as a sub for Rhamondre. He's played HB. His not being used to see what he can do is a waste.

 

[Boston Boxer]

They should be using Bell as a sub for Rhamondre. He's played HB. His not being used to see what he can do is a waste.

especially in a major re-build, they could be playing all the younger guys in different scenarios to see what they can do.

 

[captain stone]

Is there a time limit on when we can stop reliving BB's drafts?

Yep: When the last player from the 2023 draft retires.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Yep: When the last player from the 2023 draft retires.

Most of the posters on this board will be pushing up daisies before that happens.

 

[p8ryts]

Yep: When the last player from the 2023 draft retires.

And we are assuming Wolf and Groh and the scouts had no input?

 

[KCSVEN]

After top 2 picks odds are extremely low on success rate. The very best GM's hit on enough of those but most are projects. Wallace should stick as a Right Tackle IMO, the rest the jury is still out on. We will know way more next year.

The difference between an average NFL GM and a really good one is the ability to successfully draft after the first round and to not miss in the first round.
Drake Maye: HIT, ABOVE AVERAGE HIT: You have a 21% of a top 5 QB becoming elite. Only 47% of first round QB's have won a playoff game as a starter. He will be a top 5 elite QB.
Should have Picked: Drake Maye Do they get credit for staying and taking Maye and not trading down, yes.

Ja Lynn Polk: Miss, Average Miss: You have a 1 in 3 chance so odds are you fail, might be closer to 40% where they were initially drafting.

Should have Picked: Ladd Mcconkey: If not trading down (unless medicals were really bad)

Pick if Ladd had bad medicals: Zach Frasier-Center. There are 5 linemen, you get a chance to draft one of them as a possible all-pro, you draft one, centers are too underrated, and they are always great value.

Interesting note, 3 guys in a row were drafted with an apostrophe in their first name, Ja'Lynn Polk, Jer'Zhan Newton, T'Vondre Sweat

With some perspective:
50% of 1st round picks develop into solid starters
33% of 2nd round picks
16% if 3rd round
8% of 4th round
4.5% of 5th round
2% of 6th round
1.5% of 7th round

Forgive spelling errors below: This is a list of PPF rating (sorry not watching tape on all these guys) as the best I can do to get an idea of how these guys are faring.
Over 90 Elite, over 80 Pro Bowl caliber, over 70 above average, over 60 average starter or primary backup, under that bad
6 of 32 (19%) above average, 11 of 32 (34%) average or better.


Overall historically
53.7% of draft picks get cut or are useless
15.3% play but play poorly
10.5% are average NFL players
12.3% are good
6.9% are great
1% are elite multi-year all pros or hall of famers
30% of drafted players become NFL starters.

 

[PatsFan2]

After top 2 picks odds are extremely low on success rate. The very best GM's hit on enough of those but most are projects. Wallace should stick as a Right Tackle IMO, the rest the jury is still out on. We will know way more next year.

The difference between an average NFL GM and a really good one is the ability to successfully draft after the first round and to not miss in the first round.
Drake Maye: HIT, ABOVE AVERAGE HIT: You have a 21% of a top 5 QB becoming elite. Only 47% of first round QB's have won a playoff game as a starter. He will be a top 5 elite QB.
Should have Picked: Drake Maye Do they get credit for staying and taking Maye and not trading down, yes.

Ja Lynn Polk: Miss, Average Miss: You have a 1 in 3 chance so odds are you fail, might be closer to 40% where they were initially drafting.

Should have Picked: Ladd Mcconkey: If not trading down (unless medicals were really bad)

Pick if Ladd had bad medicals: Zach Frasier-Center. There are 5 linemen, you get a chance to draft one of them as a possible all-pro, you draft one, centers are too underrated, and they are always great value.

Interesting note, 3 guys in a row were drafted with an apostrophe in their first name, Ja'Lynn Polk, Jer'Zhan Newton, T'Vondre Sweat

With some perspective:
50% of 1st round picks develop into solid starters
33% of 2nd round picks
16% if 3rd round
8% of 4th round
4.5% of 5th round
2% of 6th round
1.5% of 7th round

Forgive spelling errors below: This is a list of PPF rating (sorry not watching tape on all these guys) as the best I can do to get an idea of how these guys are faring.
Over 90 Elite, over 80 Pro Bowl caliber, over 70 above average, over 60 average starter or primary backup, under that bad
6 of 32 (19%) above average, 11 of 32 (34%) average or better.


Overall historically
53.7% of draft picks get cut or are useless
15.3% play but play poorly
10.5% are average NFL players
12.3% are good
6.9% are great
1% are elite multi-year all pros or hall of famers
30% of drafted players become NFL starters.

Brother: you shouldn't have wasted all those key strokes on Slow Polk he's not worth it. Harry and Tyquan all over again we could tell very early all clueless to the Pro game.

 

[KCSVEN]

Brother: you shouldn't have wasted all those key strokes on Slow Polk he's not worth it. Harry and Tyquan all over again we could tell very early all clueless to the Pro game.

Not looking good but in order to judge the GM you need to judge the alternatives also.
I always give non first round picks 2 years to finalize judgement.

 

[upstater1]

After top 2 picks odds are extremely low on success rate. The very best GM's hit on enough of those but most are projects. Wallace should stick as a Right Tackle IMO, the rest the jury is still out on. We will know way more next year.

The difference between an average NFL GM and a really good one is the ability to successfully draft after the first round and to not miss in the first round.
Drake Maye: HIT, ABOVE AVERAGE HIT: You have a 21% of a top 5 QB becoming elite. Only 47% of first round QB's have won a playoff game as a starter. He will be a top 5 elite QB.
Should have Picked: Drake Maye Do they get credit for staying and taking Maye and not trading down, yes.

Ja Lynn Polk: Miss, Average Miss: You have a 1 in 3 chance so odds are you fail, might be closer to 40% where they were initially drafting.

Should have Picked: Ladd Mcconkey: If not trading down (unless medicals were really bad)

Pick if Ladd had bad medicals: Zach Frasier-Center. There are 5 linemen, you get a chance to draft one of them as a possible all-pro, you draft one, centers are too underrated, and they are always great value.

Interesting note, 3 guys in a row were drafted with an apostrophe in their first name, Ja'Lynn Polk, Jer'Zhan Newton, T'Vondre Sweat

With some perspective:
50% of 1st round picks develop into solid starters
33% of 2nd round picks
16% if 3rd round
8% of 4th round
4.5% of 5th round
2% of 6th round
1.5% of 7th round

Forgive spelling errors below: This is a list of PPF rating (sorry not watching tape on all these guys) as the best I can do to get an idea of how these guys are faring.
Over 90 Elite, over 80 Pro Bowl caliber, over 70 above average, over 60 average starter or primary backup, under that bad
6 of 32 (19%) above average, 11 of 32 (34%) average or better.


Overall historically
53.7% of draft picks get cut or are useless
15.3% play but play poorly
10.5% are average NFL players
12.3% are good
6.9% are great
1% are elite multi-year all pros or hall of famers
30% of drafted players become NFL starters.

My only thing to add here is that a player like Wallace is very close to that "after the first 2 rounds" cutoff. We were picking at the top of every round.

The way to look at this draft is to judge it based on how we used to draft when we picked 30th, 31st or 32nd. We had the 34th pick. Which is not that different than where we were when we picked N'Keal Harry, Sony Michel, Malcolm Brown, Logan Mankins, Ben Watson. Same at the top of round 3. Wallace was basically like a very late 2nd rounder.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[Thunderhead]

Awful outside of Maye. There is no universe where Wolf has earned another offseason as GM.

 

[notex]

I'm hopeful one of Wallace/Robinson round out into capable backups/ extra OL.

I also haven't given up on Polk. I do think there is a player in there.... Looked like he could be a dependable #3/#4 type. I think fixing OL and running game and adding a #1/#2 option at WR would allow some of these guys to be roleplayers on offense instead of carrying it

Overall, however, not a great draft class but hoping a few of them are able to be at least worthy of roster spots a few years from now.

 

[captain stone]

Awful outside of Maye. There is no universe where Wolf has earned another offseason as GM.

Yep; his FA acquisitions were another near-complete Failure as well.


#FireRonWolf'sAndAlGroh'sKids

 

[Since1960]

#1 QB selection - extremely pleased thus far.
#6 QB selection - ok, willing to go with further review
#2 - #7 selections - “Thank You Sir, May I Have Another”

 

[mgteich]

Wrong.

One player per draft does NOT cut the ****ing mustard.

not according to the poster who drafts much better than the patriots over many years.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[p8ryts]

Yep; his FA acquisitions were another near-complete Failure as well.


#FireRonWolf'sAndAlGroh'sKids

Please don't forget, the last 3 years of BB, he was asked to be more collaborative with these same guys. Should have just left him alone. He did okay for a lot of years/

 

[Since1960]

Feeling worse about this year’s draft with each game while day dreaming we kept pick #34 and drafted Ladd McConkey who would at this moment already been tied at the hip with D. Maye. Instead we see the ability (or lack thereof) to select wide receivers appears to have been “inherited” by our new GM who traded the 34th pick fir the 37th & 110th selections:

Games / Catches / Yards / TD

Ja’Lynn Polk

8 10 78 1

Ladd McConkey

8 35 440 4

Javon Baker of “Bring your popcorn. I make people in wheelchairs stand up.” fame has yet to make a reception thus far.

If you want to really feel ill, compare the 3-year stats of one Tyquan Thornton (aka: One Catch Wonder) - you may not recover however….