Shadeur's stock is tanking

[TheRainMaker]

Teams that want him are polluting the media in hopes team in the top 5 second guess themselves.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He’d never get an opportunity to be a full time two way player on Alabama or an SEC team. Deion had to make concessions so Travis would go to Colorado.

Like I said, great prospect but probably somewhat overrated. The BIG12 is arena league football and Colorado didn’t win.

I agree w that.

 

[Dec54]

He throws too many stupid interceptions, completion percentage is only impressive when paired with high TD rate, low INT percentage and good yards per attempt.

Plus he’s short and not a great athlete, if he wasn’t Deion’s kid who knows if he even gets as many starts as he did at Colorado.

 

[Thunderhead]

Its going to be:

1. Titans - Ward
2. Cleveland - Carter
3. NYG - Hunter
4. NEP - Will Campbell

Unfortunately think you're spot on. Campbell will be a guard in the NFL.

 

[Brotherblues]

He throws too many stupid interceptions, completion percentage is only impressive when paired with high TD rate, low INT percentage and good yards per attempt.

Plus he’s short and not a great athlete, if he wasn’t Deion’s kid who knows if he even gets as many starts as he did at Colorado.

Does he? Saw somewhere that he had the lowest rate of turnover worthy throws.

 

[Sect140]

Does he? Saw somewhere that he had the lowest rate of turnover worthy throws.

His senior year.

13 games, 477 pass attempts, 353 completions, 4,134 yards, 37 TD’s, 10 interceptions.

His junior year.

11 games, 430 pass attempts, 298 completions, 3,320:yards, 27 TD’s, 3 interceptions.

 

[Water Boy]

Unfortunately think you're spot on. Campbell will be a guard in the NFL.

We'll see. I think he can be an LT. Vrabel I'm sure loves his makeup. If his floor is an all pro guard it's worth the risk.

 

[KCSVEN]

Its going to be:

1. Titans - Ward
2. Cleveland - Carter
3. NYG - Hunter
4. NEP - Will Campbell

Maybe, and odds favor that at the moment but multiple reports have the Giants loving Sanders. If that is true they will take him at 3.

Cam Ward at 1 is a done deal IMO

FanDuel odds :
First pick: -1350 Cam Ward, +600 Abdul Carter
2nd pick- -300 Abdul Carter, +340 Sanders, +650 Hunter
3rd pick- -150 Travis Hunter, +170 Sanders, +600 Carter

Closest odds are the 3 pick and that switched from Sanders to Hunter after signing of Wilson which all reports are it doesn't change the Giants drafting Sanders IF they love him.

Interesting Pro Day coming up for Sanders

 

[KCSVEN]

Daboll and Schoen need to win games this year and build for the future. If the Giants are in the position to draft Arch Manning, Daboll and Schoen will be fired. If they win enough games to save their jobs, they won't be in position to draft a QB next year. That is why they still probably take Sanders at 3 if he is available.

I think you nailed it.

IMO if they don't draft a young QB that plays half the games and shows promise for the future they get fired.

This Giants team was just ranked 32 in the power rankings. Wilson turns 37 mid-season. They stink even adding Hunter and Wilson.

What if Gants go 6-11, then draft 11th in 2026?
Sanders plays for the Saints and plays well and is looked at as a future franchise QB?
Giants end 2025 with no hope of drafting a top QB in 2026, they now have to find a new starting QB for 2026.
The only way they save their jobs is by drafting a QB and showing he can be a future franchise QB. Daboll shows he can develop a QB and they want Daboll to stay to continue to develop Sanders. That's their only hope of making it in their jobs after this season.

 

[scott99]

I really don’t understand the Shedeur Sanders hate and disrespect. Sanders was an EXCELLENT college QB, especially this year. Over 4100 yards, 74% completion percentage, 37 TD passes and only 10 interceptions. He did this behind a suspect OLine and virtually no running game behind him. Granted, he had Travis Hunter who was the Heisman winner, but they both contributed to each other’s success.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I think you nailed it.

IMO if they don't draft a young QB that plays half the games and shows promise for the future they get fired.

This Giants team was just ranked 32 in the power rankings. Wilson turns 37 mid-season. They stink even adding Hunter and Wilson.

What if Gants go 6-11, then draft 11th in 2026?
Sanders plays for the Saints and plays well and is looked at as a future franchise QB?
Giants end 2025 with no hope of drafting a top QB in 2026, they now have to find a new starting QB for 2026.
The only way they save their jobs is by drafting a QB and showing he can be a future franchise QB. Daboll shows he can develop a QB and they want Daboll to stay to continue to develop Sanders. That's their only hope of making it in their jobs after this season.

Last year the Giants picked Nabers with Nix, McCarthy, and Penix still on the Board. People think the Giants will pick Hunter this year with Sanders still on the Board? Seems absolutely ass-backwards to me. Daboll will be fired at year's end.

 

[Love The Drake]

Last year the Giants picked Nabers with Nix, McCarthy, and Penix still on the Board. People think the Giants will pick Hunter this year with Sanders still on the Board? Seems absolutely ass-backwards to me. Daboll will be fired at year's end.

I believe it all depends on the Mara’s commitment to the staff.
The Mara’s are one of the most patient owners in football, however wins are expected. If Sanders is on the bench all year he is not helping Daboll,
The question is could Hunter and Nabors draw a top free agent QB if one comes available.

Also if they are doing deep dive on Dart maybe they are content taking Hunter or trading the pick for a ransom hoping to move back up and secure Dart at the end of the first?

All depend on how comfortable they are and the plan they have discussed with Mara’s.

 

[Love The Drake]

I believe it all depends on the Mara’s commitment to the staff.
The Mara’s are one of the most patient owners in football, however wins are expected. If Sanders is on the bench all year he is not helping Daboll,
The question is could Hunter and Nabors draw a top free agent QB if one comes available.

Also if they are doing deep dive on Dart maybe they are content taking Hunter or trading the pick for a ransom hoping to move back up and secure Dart at the end of the first?

All depend on how comfortable they are and the plan they have discussed with Mara’s.

I truly believe if Sanders is there at 4 we find the team that wants him Raiders, Jets? And gain a third or maybe even a second for that small move down.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I believe it all depends on the Mara’s commitment to the staff.
The Mara’s are one of the most patient owners in football, however wins are expected. If Sanders is on the bench all year he is not helping Daboll,
The question is could Hunter and Nabors draw a top free agent QB if one comes available.

Also if they are doing deep dive on Dart maybe they are content taking Hunter or trading the pick for a ransom hoping to move back up and secure Dart at the end of the first?

All depend on how comfortable they are and the plan they have discussed with Mara’s.

You make a good point about Dart, but that is a very risky approach. The Maras want a little hope too based on a good QB.

 

[JohnJH]

I suspect that at worse case scenario, Sanders still goes in the Top 10. This sort of thing happens before every draft. Sometimes, a team that wants a player will, through a multitude of avenues, put out information that paints a player that they want in a negative light, hoping that said player will be there when they pick (and they don't have to trade up to get him). On a different note, if Campbell's arms did in fact measure in at a legit 33" (I trust the Patriots personally measured his arm length), and if Hunter isn't there at #4 (or Carter for that matter), they'll probably feel much better about not only drafting him at #4, but that he can be a successful (from Day 1) True LT.

 

[Love The Drake]

I suspect that at worse case scenario, Sanders still goes in the Top 10. This sort of thing happens before every draft. Sometimes, a team that wants a player will, through a multitude of avenues, put out information that paints a player that they want in a negative light, hoping that said player will be there when they pick (and they don't have to trade up to get him). On a different note, if Campbell's arms did in fact measure in at a legit 33" (I trust the Patriots personally measured his arm length), and if Hunter isn't there at #4 (or Carter for that matter), they'll probably feel much better about not only drafting him at #4, but that he can be a successful (from Day 1) True LT.

If Sanders is there at 4 Patriots need to exploit that desperate team.
There is nobody we color lose from 4-10 that wouldn’t be bested by adding additional second or third.

 

[scott99]

I truly believe if Sanders is there at 4 we find the team that wants him Raiders, Jets? And gain a third or maybe even a second for that small move down.

Why would we do something that stupid ?

 

[mgteich]

Unfortunately think you're spot on. Campbell will be a guard in the NFL.

Perhaps, but he will be a LT for 2025.

We need two acquire two LT's for 2025. I would be fine if our 2nd LT starts in 2026 and Campbell starts at LG.

 

[Love The Drake]

Why would we do something that stupid ?

You wouldn’t trade 4 to say 6? For a second or third?
I would

 

[Dec54]

For a 2nd perhaps but not a 3rd