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  1. Actual Pats Fan

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    Wait - am I supposed to fix this one too?
     
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    Look. I'm a grandfather.

    It's ****ing OK if I forget the Scott "Missen'" Sisson years, ok?!!?!?!?!?
     
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    I feel the same way about the Welker thing. Always have.

    And then I think back to all the years that BB has been here and how few mistakes there really are. It's incredible. I think I can count them on one hand without using my thumb.

    That's not counting the most recent drafts though.
    I was thinking of Hog but for some f***ed up reason decided to leave him out.

    Great call on the logo... again.

    No need to be sorry. My cramp might be work related. For about half of the 40 years I worked I was leaning pretty far left, right or back, with my hands above my head.
     
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    Look, I agree that Brady is GOAT but I also feel like BB is GOAT coach and that neither would be as good if not for the other. And sometimes when the use of BB's record without Brady is used in conversations, it comes off as a jab at Belichick.
     
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    Escort work will do that to you .... :D

    (come on ... you opened the door .... :))
     
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    I wonder about that. In Cleveland, BB made the hard decision in moving away from the fan-favorite QB, with a playoff win as a result. Win totals went 6-7-7-11.

    Note: I am not counting 1995 -that was a freak year.

    I wonder what another three years - with a stable owner - would have resulted in.
     
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    Yup, I sure did.
     
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    Kraft hired Belichick. Despite adamant advice not to from advisers. After firing Pete Carroll who had a winning record.

    Belichick hired Dick Rehbein, and dispatched him to Michigan to scout Tom. Despite an almost conspiratorial, complete avoidance of him by the rest of the league (likely due to the least impressive combine performance by a quarterback in history), and Bill's own doubts due to the Drew Henson thing (that Tom was benched; not the awesome way that Tom handled it), but due largely to Rehbein's stellar scouting report, Bill drafted Tom, and then kept him on the team, carrying four quarterbacks. And, when Bledsoe was recovered, he kept Brady in there as the starter.

    So Tom did not just show up and light the world on fire. Tom is special. Tom is gifted. Tom has earned GOAT status. But Bledsoe was declining badly for years prior to '01, never mind the enormous contract extension, and it was clear (to me) the Pats were not going anywhere until he was replaced.
     
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    Matt Bahr kicked us into the playoffs in '94
     
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    That hurts I was a huge Drew fan.
    I loved watching him face off against Marino.
     
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    That's how I watched Patriots games for thirty years...

    No, I mean, not at the kickoff; but usually by the end of the game...o_O
     
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    Drew did his best. He was good. He was talented. He lived up to every expectation of a number one overall pick.

    He simply reached his ceiling professionally. No reflection on him as a person.
     
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    He also had a problem in that he had a bad WR corps for much of his career. That led him to become far too reliant on his TEs.
     
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    True, but Bledsoe to Coates was fun to watch.
     
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    "If you don't mind, thith little black duck preferth to forget the Thkott 'Mithin' Thithin yearth, OK?"
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    It was beautiful, until Coates began to wear down.
     
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    This is synergism. The Pats probably win at least one Lombardi with Brady but not Belichick. They probably win at least one with Belichick but not Brady. But they definitely don't reach nine and win six without the two together.
     
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    You are not spewing vitriol or disdain towards Kraft or BB , but the other poster was.. do you have some collective need to be blamed??

    I am well aware that BB was 5 & 13 until Brady took over, but that is not unusual for a new coach that came to a floundering franchise.. I also do not expect great things this year, but next year with a slew of cap money I will expect something completely different.

    You also need to remember that BB chose #12 rather than bringing back Bledsoe, not every coach may have done that.. most thought at that time keeping Brady at the helm was a very poor decision.
     
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    I don’t know why you feel so strongly about this?

    Gostkowski was taken in the 4th round, and Rodrigo Blankenship had more impressive stats throughout his college career, not to mention the kind of big game, college playoff experience that Gost never saw at Memphis.

    I’m not only totally fine with using a mid round pick on the possibility of having a franchise kicker, but I’m actually hoping that it happens.
     
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