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Replay of Patriots-Eagles Pre-Season Game

Collins looked like a lost rook in the 2nd half

Tavon Wilson was never in any play that one could actually get a "look" on..I said it right after the game and then after reviewing the game and now, after watching this again, he jumped out at me in a totally negative way.
 
On second viewing, Dane Fletcher looked real good out there.
 
Tebow 4th quarter:

- "Did you recognize that Tebowing is a word."

- Poor throw to Dobson on a stop and go on the left side of the field. That was not to his back shoulder.

- Down goes Tebow. Not enough time to make a fluent read.

- Poor play design on screen pass.

- Another shot put to Aiken across the middle. He looked hesitant.

In my view - the one play where Tebow has an opportunity was the deep ball to Dobson. Not enough mustard on the throw was on him. Either way - there was good coverage on the play.

He had an opportunity to do some things. Like Joker said - his footwork is sloppy and certainly appeared uncertain in a number of his reads.

He is going to have to show more.

Some of these plays - it is apparent that he lacks timing on his throws, while showing poor footwork and an inability to fluidly go through his progressions.
 
A couple of other things that I noticed in this game are some of the potential practice squad guys:

Anthony Reshard White, if he doesn't make this team, is certainly a guy that the Pats will want to place on that squad.

Some of the others include: Justin Green, Josh Kline (he showed well in the running game, not so much in pass protection), and Jason Vega.
 
Someone was making the case that Boyce was to blame for the Mallett misfire, but Ryan clearly taps his helmet in he universal, "my bad" gesture.

Fletch had a strong 2011 preseason (remember when people were wondering if he was going to swipe Spike's job?) so I'm not surprised that he is outperforming Collins. If anything, the opposite would be a surprise.

I'm only about 1/2 way into the 3rd quarter, but I'm still not seeing why anyone would say Collins looks "terrible." He's flashed some physical ability, while looking like someone who isn't familiar with the defense. You hope to see more from your second round rookie, but in his first preseason game playing a position he hasn't in two years? I'm willing to cut him some slack.

Tavon has been so invisible that the only hope is that NE is asking him to behave in some unique manner to develop a part of his game. If not that, he looks like a lost cause.
 
I watched the game again last night- I yelled at Tebow again to throw the D...ball!. However, he did drive the field for 2 scores which wasn't too bad. I hope he improves or he may be in trouble.
 
A couple of other things that I noticed in this game are some of the potential practice squad guys:

Anthony Reshard White, if he doesn't make this team, is certainly a guy that the Pats will want to place on that squad.

Some of the others include: Justin Green, Josh Kline (he showed well in the running game, not so much in pass protection), and Jason Vega.

He stood out to me too on a couple of plays. If we needed a 3-4 OLB, he'd be quite a good one. Don't see him fitting as we're currently constituted however.
 
Allen may have outkicked the coverage by 5 yards or so, but the return was more due to lousy coverage.
 
what "coverage"?...that was a jailbreak.

but in reality, what exactly does that mean one way or another. Some JAG's played a punt like a patty cake party. The only thing I wonder is, Allen DID outkick the coverage. Did the staff see that as a negative?
 
what "coverage"?...that was a jailbreak.

but in reality, what exactly does that mean one way or another. Some JAG's played a punt like a patty cake party. The only thing I wonder is, Allen DID outkick the coverage. Did the staff see that as a negative?

Perhaps. But there are degrees of outkicking your coverage, and this wouldn't be a major offense, IMO.

Re: Dobson. End of the 3rd quarter and he's faced one press coverage the entire game so far. Didn't get off, but that was because the CB saw it was a run, grabbed Aaron's jersey and yanked him to the side.

In the entire second half, Dobson has run maybe 5 routes, only one of which was viewable beyond the +5 LOS mark. On that one he was wide open, though it looked like busted coverage. Everything else was run blocking.

Still a quarter to go, but there is no evidence at all for the "he can't beat the jam" and "he can't create separation" story lines based on this game.
 
Tebow 4th quarter:

- "Did you recognize that Tebowing is a word."

- Poor throw to Dobson on a stop and go on the left side of the field. That was not to his back shoulder.

- Down goes Tebow. Not enough time to make a fluent read.

- Poor play design on screen pass.

- Another shot put to Aiken across the middle. He looked hesitant.

In my view - the one play where Tebow has an opportunity was the deep ball to Dobson. Not enough mustard on the throw was on him. Either way - there was good coverage on the play.

He had an opportunity to do some things. Like Joker said - his footwork is sloppy and certainly appeared uncertain in a number of his reads.

He is going to have to show more.

Some of these plays - it is apparent that he lacks timing on his throws, while showing poor footwork and an inability to fluidly go through his progressions.

That throw to Dobson on the 9-route (which is what I think you're talking about) was actually a thing of beauty and a reason why I fawn over his mechanics when flushed out of the pocket. It had the accuracy but the throw was too long. New offense and throwing to a new receiver, so that happens. The rest of the throws you mention were pretty brutal though. He doesn't look confident at all inside the pocket, and the comments on his footwork are dead on.
 
One note on Allen - I would not be surprised if he is kept throughout camp and then try and get him on the practice squad as well.
 
One note on Allen - I would not be surprised if he is kept throughout camp and then try and get him on the practice squad as well.

PS is very unlikely. He is a two-time Ray Guy winner, someone will snag him.

I'm a big fan of Mesko, but I think the team is genuinely hoping Allen earns the spot, considering the cheaper/longer rights, Zoltan will need to win the competition decisively to keep his job.
 
Just finished watching the game with an eye on Dobson and IMO people are being overly harsh on him.

There were a number of posts talking about his difficulty getting off jams, and I only saw one play all game that he was jammed. Since it became a running play and the defender grabbed his jersey and pulled him aside (something that would have been flagged if it were a pass) it is impossible to draw any conclusions from.

The lack of separation was overstated as well. He doesn't have KT's sudden-ness, but he can be surprisingly quick when needed. Here is a gif of his comeback catch:

Dobson catch Animated GIF | GIFs - GIFSoup.com

^That^ is as much room as Thompkins created on any of his catches, against some of the tighter coverage he saw all night.

Here is another play that I thought worthy of reviewing:

Dobson miss Animated GIF | GIFs - GIFSoup.com

It starts out with a rather unconvincing fake, but even with the DB reading deep coverage all the way, Dobson quickly gets on top of him and looks like he'll pull ahead, until realizing the throw is going to be short. At that point, it is a matter of trying to get jump ball positioning on a line drive pass.

Had Tebow led him further with an arching pass, it could very well have been one of Randy Moss' patented lull the DB to sleep and then glide past him with surprising speed catches. Even if he hadn't put it out front, if there was just a little more air under it, Dobson could have used his length to his advantage.

Either way, the lack of separation was more based on the throw than the route.

Here is another one:

Dobson miss #2 Animated GIF | GIFs - GIFSoup.com

After watching this again, it is more possible that Dobson should have stopped than I remember (I had recalled it being thrown late, but Mallet had to wait for Edelman to clear out the area). That said, I still think this was a misfire on Mallett's part. Part of the reason for my thinking, which is hard to tell due to the size of these files, is that the throw was too low. Even if Dobson stops in the right spot, the throw basically puts him on the ground when there is no DB in the area to worry about.

Now, I don't doubt that Brady trusts Thompkins more. There was one play where he went to a tightly coverage KT when Dobson was pretty uncovered on the left, both pretty much the same distance from the LOS (5 yards). That said, Dobson was only on the field for one of KT's three Brady-tossed catches, so it isn't as if Dobson was ignored or failed to get open on those plays.

A few other plays that I didn't bother to gif, but I thought worth mentioning:

* Dobson failed to break free on an EZ attempt that fell incomplete, though it was actually very similar to the Vereen TD. The difference is that Brady made an incredible thrown and Mallett's didn't. I might have liked to see more effort on Aaron's part, though.

* On the Tebow scramble as toss down the right sideline, Dobson had worked his way free.

* A coverage SNAFU left Aaron completely wide open for a walk-in TD if Tebow had the time to get a pass off. It looked like everyone, including the OL and DBs, were confused as to why Tim didn't dump the ball off to Suds as the play intended. I don't mention this to give Aaron any credit, just that I think sometimes we are overly results-oriented in our thinking. If Tebow had somehow gotten the pass off, Dobson almost certainly scores and fans feel better out his game, even though his overall performance wasn't any better.

All told, it was an OK game for the rook. The drop and possible miscommunication reflect poorly on him. I also have some reservations about his blocking; he lollygags like Moss and a couple times appeared to get lost in a sea of bodies. But based on this one game, there is no reason to suggest that he can't create room or get off jams.
 

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That throw to Dobson on the 9-route (which is what I think you're talking about) was actually a thing of beauty and a reason why I fawn over his mechanics when flushed out of the pocket. It had the accuracy but the throw was too long. New offense and throwing to a new receiver, so that happens. The rest of the throws you mention were pretty brutal though. He doesn't look confident at all inside the pocket, and the comments on his footwork are dead on.

Thanks KontradictioN - Just trying to keep it real.
 
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