RED SOX fans vs Patriots fans

[PATSNUTme]

Thanks for the tip. After reading the rest of this odd thread you started and some of your other posts/threads in the other forums, you'll probably be the first candidate for my "ignore" list. Barry Manilow? Captain Kangaroo? Rambo? Golf? Red Sox? Who cares????? Talk about offering nothing of value! How old are you, anyway?

All Right!! My heart is broken. Please make sure you spell it right, all caps last two in small letters. Now, don't let me down.

You can join the humorless whiners and cryers on mine.

 

[Dartanyan]

All Right!! My heart is broken. Please make sure you spell it right, all caps last two in small letters. Now, don't let me down.

You can join the humorless whiners and cryers on mine.

I'll consider that a compliment! Can you please share the names of others on your ignore list? I'd like to seek them out as friends and mature posters who know and care a lot about FOOTBALL.

 

[Bill's Girl]

I am indeed both a huge Sox Fan and an even bigger Patriots fan.

I feel the difference between Sox fans and Patriots fans is about the history of the sox. The sox go way back into the late 1800's where some of our grandfathers/ great grandfathers were fans of the team themselves. Then generation by generation each family member excepts the sox as their own just like their previous family did. The history that comes with the red sox is like nothing else. Since we've had great ballplayers throughout the years that could be some of the best players to ever play the game. Cy Young, Ted Williams, Roger Clemens, Carl Yaztremski are just some to name a few. That only adds to the history that they all played at Fenway Park which is still here today. Red Sox fans seem arrogant and ****y but once you get to know them they really are good people just with good intentions for their team.

Patriots fans (and football fans in general) most feel are the new age of our country while baseball was our past time. America needed something new something entertaining and something with action from second to second. Thus fans of football were born. We like the hard nosed plays of fighting in the trenches. The joy and fear of winning or losing the big games. The part that every game is important because there are only 16 games all season and you have to wait every seven days to see one. Most of all we like the behind the scenes shots where people get to see how the game is played from a coaches point of view.


Red Sox fans are mathmatical and loyal.

Patriots fans are action packed and diehard.

Thats the best way i can explain it from my point of view.

THANK YOU! This is how I feel too! Like you said, until I came to this board I did not know anyone who liked the Pats and hated the Sox! I do know a lot of people who have "given up" on the Celtics and Bruins thanks to poor management, but I never knew there was so much sox hate out there.

 

[Bill's Girl]

Perhaps you should take a hint from the now not-so-silent majority and move your baseball discussions to the baseball forum.

This is NOT a baseball discussion, this is a discussion about how FANS of baseball and football differ from each other. Who is more cerebral? Who cares more about stats? Who is more loyal in bad weather?

 

[Bill's Girl]

All Right!! My heart is broken. Please make sure you spell it right, all caps last two in small letters. Now, don't let me down.

You can join the humorless whiners and cryers on mine.

In the "calling a spade a spade" department.....does anyone else think Tune has invented an alter-ego for himself so that he now has a friend here, or is this guy Tune's evil twin??

 

[edzo44]

OK, timeout. I come here new last night and right away I'm faced with two cases of mistaken identity. I'm called an "elitist," a "nube" and get bricks dropped on my head while being chewed out for supposedly berating a "superior officer." Then you chime in and suggest people will now ignore me for simply calling a spade a spade. How is this Patsnutsme fellow a so-called "good poster" with garbage like wishing he was a porn star and writing about Captain Kangaroo vs. Mr. Rogers? And another thing: I might be new here, but that doesn't make me any less worthy of discussion on equal footing than yourself or that NEM guy who also thought I was someone else. At any rate, I hope to get beyond this into some decent football talk. At some point, at least. Hopefully.

Welcome to the board, interesting entrance posts, you've managed to make a slightly less then graceful (but funny as all Hell) entry onto the forum. Actually if you're interested in talking football the easiest way to accomplish it is to start a thread by posing a question or suggesting a theory that can be discussed.

The tough part is coming up with something that hasn't been discussed already because this off season is just dragging on endlessly. That might be why there have been some less then football oriented subjects on the forum recently. Welcome again, this IS a great board but be warned, it gets pretty addictive after awhile, really hard not to look at it 4 or 5 or even more times a day!

 

[Jacky Roberts]

I'm a fan of both, but I do find some people, specifically people who live in the city of Boston, turn their noses up at the Patriots because they don't play in the city.

 

[Dartanyan]

In the "calling a spade a spade" department.....does anyone else think Tune has invented an alter-ego for himself so that he now has a friend here, or is this guy Tune's evil twin??

I don't know who you are, lady, but you seem paranoid about something. I promise you that I'm nobody's evil twin, body double, ghostwriter or alter ego. As for Tunescribe, he seems all right by me. At least he gave me a warm welcome (unlike you), and seems to know his stuff. But what do I know? I'm just an "elitist nube" who people think is someone else and deserves to have bricks dropped on his head.

 

[desi-patsfan]

I don't know who you are, lady, but you seem paranoid about something. I promise you that I'm nobody's evil twin, body double, ghostwriter or alter ego. As for Tunescribe, he seems all right by me. At least he gave me a warm welcome (unlike you), and seems to know his stuff. But what do I know? I'm just an "elitist nube" who people think is someone else and deserves to have bricks dropped on his head.

Your posts have been interesting but i think you need to relax a little. She isnt paranoid, she was just making a funny comment. Take it as that and move on.

 

[edzo44]

In answer to the original question posted in this thread I must confess I'm not really a hard nosed, solid Sox fan but my entire family is and always has been. I, on the other hand, always have been and still am an avid, hardcore Pats fan from day one of their existence, the rest of my family were not. For the most part I think Sox and Pats fans are and were fairly alike.

Up until 2001 both type fans new exactly what to expect rooting for their teams - - - a lot of talk, a lot of excitement and a lot of pain. On the rare occaision when either team made it to the playoffs they would find a way to lose and you KNEW it! It didn't matter if it was really, really close - - - it would always still be NO CIGAR. You also knew it would be another decade or more usually before either team would get another chance. They would be mediocre or downright suck until the next chance. These were the expectations of both team's fans and the expectations were always fully met.

In the fall of 2001 odd things happened, Bledsoe gets hammered and he's replaced by Brady, and after the first game with the Rams that they lost, the Patriots team won their next game and then proceeded to win the next and the next until all of a sudden they were in the superbowl against the same Rams team. As was usual and fully expected, after being lifted to the heights for 3 quarters we end up with the Rams tieing it up in the 4th with a minute and 21 seconds left. Then came the drive, critical pass after critical pass until there's 7 seconds left and the Pats are lined up for the field goal and then, for the first time ever, the Pats did not meet our usual expectations! They didn't botch the snap, the Rams didn't block the kick and run it back for a touchdown and Adam didn't miss. He nailed that sucker dead center and after a 42 year wait the Patriots were World Champions.

In 2004 the Red Sox did the same thing but even I'll admit they did it with more style. They had to not meet their fans expectations by becoming the first team in baseball history to be down 0 and 3 in the Championship Series and then to come back and win the next 4 games against their biggest, most hated rival in the the rival's home park in front of their own fans who had to witness the biggest choke in baseball history. Then they went to the World Series against another arch enemy and swept them in 4 straight to take their first World Series in 86 years under a blood red moon to boot!

In 2003 and 2004 the Pats went to the SuperBowl again and both times they fully met their fans expectations by winning both games. The next time they make it back to the big game, which should be very soon, they will be fully expected to win again.

So to answer the original question I would have to say that most Pats fans think that if the Pats get to the SuperBowl again they will win it and we flat out expect them to win it. I also think that if the Red Sox get back to the World Series their fans will still be thinking the last one was a fluke and they wouldn't be surprised in the least if the Sox lost it because of the 86 years of preconditioning that is still in effect on Red Sox fans.

That's the difference between Pats fans and Red Sox fans, the Pats fans are now optimists and the Red Sox fans will still be pessimists.

 

[Patjew]

Wow, pretty good stuff here. I found it best to keep quiet when I joined the forum last year, but that's just me.

Anyhoo... I'm a huge Pats and Sox fan. I loved the Sox first, but now I love the Pats more. (I used to love the Celts the most, but that's passed.) I like that the intensity of the NFL is so much greater than MLB since each game is 10X more important. And having so few games a year let's the mind wander more about the team, I suppose, which also ratchets up the intensity.

But many people love the Pats and Sox. Maybe not too many here, but there is tremendous cross-over between the fan bases, so I'm not sure you can say that one really differs from the other. It's just that watching and rooting for a football team is very different than a baseball team, and that's probably where most of the differences come from.

 

[Patjew]

That's the difference between Pats fans and Red Sox fans, the Pats fans are now optimists and the Red Sox fans will still be pessimists.

As the Big O would say, "you are making my point". I'm a fan of the Sox and Pats, but I am optimistic about the Pats and not-so-optimistic about the Sox. But that's due to differences with the teams' performances, not me as a fan.

 

[Dartanyan]

Your posts have been interesting but i think you need to relax a little. She isnt paranoid, she was just making a funny comment. Take it as that and move on.

Making a funny comment, huh? OK, where on this messageboard can I find the divining rod that'll lead to where the "yucks" are hidden? If it IS a joke and not paranoia, it appears to be an inside joke at someone else's expense (including mine). Be that as it may, I'm plenty relaxed if maybe a little confused by some of the posturing going on here. I'm definitely not beyond joshin' around myself as long as it makes at least a little sense! (By the way, did you sense a twinge of irony in my response to Bill's Girl? I hope that counts for something.)

 

[PATSNUTme]

OK, timeout. I come here new last night and right away I'm faced with two cases of mistaken identity. I'm called an "elitist," a "nube" and get bricks dropped on my head while being chewed out for supposedly berating a "superior officer." Then you chime in and suggest people will now ignore me for simply calling a spade a spade. How is this Patsnutsme fellow a so-called "good poster" with garbage like wishing he was a porn star and writing about Captain Kangaroo vs. Mr. Rogers? And another thing: I might be new here, but that doesn't make me any less worthy of discussion on equal footing than yourself or that NEM guy who also thought I was someone else. At any rate, I hope to get beyond this into some decent football talk. At some point, at least. Hopefully.

It would be good for you to know the facts before you mouth off. Those threads that you mentioned were SATIRE of meaningless stupid threads that were being posted over and over again.

Instead of going those threads and whine and cry how bad they were, I used a little humor to make a point. Which, by the way, went over the heads of just a couple of crybabies.

But, you can come on here and give opinions on things that you know nothing about. With your great football knowledge I would think that you would start a great football thread that would dazzle all of us here.

Instead, you choose to come on a thread that you think is stupid ( you may be right about that) and whine about it. You could have just ignored it and posted on another thread. Not very smart, don't you think?


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[Joker]

Yeah...what are you doing, D'Artagnan?

everybody KNOWS that "you choose to come on a thread that you think is stupid ( you may be right about that) and whine about it." is the sole province of the Joker.

Get your own schtick, pal...or you'll be hearing from my copywrite lawyer

 

[Johnny Mac]

Go Bruins!

 

[Dartanyan]

you choose to come on a thread that you think is stupid (you may be right about that)

I couldn't have said it better myself, and I give you credit for owning up to your own "lameness." From what I've gathered elsewhere, you can't seem to help yourself when it comes to posting inane juvenile blather that has nothing to do with football. If any of it was funny I'd certainly give you credit, but, holy smokes! My 8-year-old nephew has a sharper satirical wit, and he gave up watching Mr. Rogers re-runs years ago! Perhaps you can tune in Comedy Central for a little remedial instruction. Here's a question for you: If what you say is true, why would you want to start a meaningless stupid "satirical" thread addressing another meaningless stupid thread? Why not just write something -- anything! -- about FOOTBALL?

 

[Tunescribe]

Don't mind me, just passing through ... Can't say I'm not enjoying this, though. For what it's worth, Dartanyan, everything you're saying is on the mark, but as the old adage goes, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. The problem is, it's not going to make a bit of difference. Take it from my experience. Been there, done that. Oh, one thing that might help with the perspective here: According to Bill's Girl, I am the "cancer/Terrell Owens/Ron Borges" of this messageboard. So you might want to take that into consideration before accusing her of paranoia.

 

[PATSNUTme]

I couldn't have said it better myself, and I give you credit for owning up to your own "lameness." From what I've gathered elsewhere, you can't seem to help yourself when it comes to posting inane juvenile blather that has nothing to do with football. If any of it was funny I'd certainly give you credit, but, holy smokes! My 8-year-old nephew has a sharper satirical wit, and he gave up watching Mr. Rogers re-runs years ago! Perhaps you can tune in Comedy Central for a little remedial instruction. Here's a question for you: If what you say is true, why would you want to start a meaningless stupid "satirical" thread addressing another meaningless stupid thread? Why not just write something -- anything! -- about FOOTBALL?

Conrats. You just made the team. I believe you have already met the HC/GM/Pres.

Enjoy.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Wow, pretty good stuff here. I found it best to keep quiet when I joined the forum last year, but that's just me.

You are right PJ. It did take us a while to get to know you and then hate you.