Pre Game Thread - Pats @ Bills

[Triumph]

Josh Allen

32 pass TDs 13 INTs
3 - 4th quarter comebacks
4 game winning drives
746 rushing yards
6.5 YPC
7 rush TDs
13 fumbles.

Yeah he makes mistakes, but can dig himself out of trouble.

 

[Triumph]

Matt Patricia is calling BB on the headset telling him to move Mac into place.

 

[venecol]

They may be playing for the 2 seed vs 3 seed in that scenario, but who knows how much that matters to them. Or if our game is at 4:00 and cincy plays/wins at 1:00, then bills are definitely locked into the 3 seed and have nothing at all to play for.

It's completely odd to me how the NFL schedules these games w/o any regard to how they impact playing effort for other teams. The WC made sure to have teams play at the same time to avoid sandbagging games.

If you're going to have two games on Saturday, it shouldn't be the ones they picked. Jags should've gotten a full weeks rest given the Titans played on TNF. Jags, Pats, Phins, Steelers, Chiefs & Bengals should all play at the same time. You could still have the Chiefs play at 4:00 on Sunday and it wouldn't affect much given the odds of these games. And why aren't there any NFC games on Saturday? The whole thing is bizarre or money related.

 

[crawhammer]

He just has an amazing way of putting incredible game plans together to take away the opponents strengths. Just a master at it, and what makes yesterday so impressive is he was doing it with corner's that just came off the practice squad.

Our defense will be something special next season!!!!!!!!

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots WINS 2021-2022:

Zach Wilson
Davis Mills
Zach Wilson/Mike White
Justin Herbert
Sam Darnold
Baker Mayfield/Case Keenum
Matt Ryan/Josh Rosen
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Allen (wind storm game)
Trevor Lawrence
Mitchell Trubisky
Jared Goff
Jacoby Brissett
Zach Wilson
Sam Ehlinger
Zach Wilson
Colt McCoy
Teddy Bridgewater/Skylar Thompson

4 Zach Wilson
2 other rookies
4 backups
5 bums
1 wind storm
2 legit QBs (and I'm being generous with Goff)

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots LOSSES 2021-2022:

Tua Tagovailoa
Jameis Winston
Tom Brady
Dak Prescott
Carson Wentz
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Lamar Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
Justin Fields
Kirk Cousins
Josh Allen
Derek Carr
Joe Burrow

2 bums
1 emerging QB
13 legit QBs

I'm sensing a trend here.

 

[Triumph]

The last time they sat Allen at all in the regular season finale was 2020, and he only sat in the second half because they were up 28-6 at half. They won 56-26.

Our hope is the back door.

 

[bigballas]

I highly doubt the Bills rest most of their starters and let us in. Even if they have nothing to play for, divisional opponents tend to not give another rival within the division a path into the postseason.

In the scenario, Bills locked into the 2nd, why would they not want to go half ass vanilla/2nd team and get a rematch with us?

That would give them two weeks to prepare for us in a meaningful game, and they can hold back the playbook for the rematch the following week and get extra data on us.

were in a win or out scenario, so not like we can hold back. Bills can run whatever they want bc no matter the outcome they see us the following week (vs preparing for a totally diff team). seems like ideal game theory for them

 

[Betterthanmost]

This team have a Giants 2007 look about them. If they get in, you will have to take a look at their record again and go deeper into what actually happened in those loses. Out of Chicago and the Bills game, they were in everyone of those games and had a chance to win it.

 

[PatsFan2]

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots WINS 2021-2022:

Zach Wilson
Davis Mills
Zach Wilson/Mike White
Justin Herbert
Sam Darnold
Baker Mayfield/Case Keenum
Matt Ryan/Josh Rosen
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Allen (wind storm game)
Trevor Lawrence
Mitchell Trubisky
Jared Goff
Jacoby Brissett
Zach Wilson
Sam Ehlinger
Zach Wilson
Colt McCoy
Teddy Bridgewater/Skylar Thompson

4 Zach Wilson
2 other rookies
4 backups
5 bums
1 wind storm
2 legit QBs (and I'm being generous with Goff)

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots LOSSES 2021-2022:

Tua Tagovailoa
Jameis Winston
Tom Brady
Dak Prescott
Carson Wentz
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Lamar Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
Justin Fields
Kirk Cousins
Josh Allen
Derek Carr
Joe Burrow

2 bums
1 emerging QB
13 legit QBs

I'm sensing a trend here.

Bet the house on the Pats if they rest Allen.

 

[Uptown]

 

[ashley]

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots WINS 2021-2022:

Zach Wilson
Davis Mills
Zach Wilson/Mike White
Justin Herbert
Sam Darnold
Baker Mayfield/Case Keenum
Matt Ryan/Josh Rosen
Ryan Tannehill
Josh Allen (wind storm game)
Trevor Lawrence
Mitchell Trubisky
Jared Goff
Jacoby Brissett
Zach Wilson
Sam Ehlinger
Zach Wilson
Colt McCoy
Teddy Bridgewater/Skylar Thompson

4 Zach Wilson
2 other rookies
4 backups
5 bums
1 wind storm
2 legit QBs (and I'm being generous with Goff)

Opposing Quarterbacks in Patriots LOSSES 2021-2022:

Tua Tagovailoa
Jameis Winston
Tom Brady
Dak Prescott
Carson Wentz
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Josh Allen
Tua Tagovailoa
Lamar Jackson
Aaron Rodgers
Justin Fields
Kirk Cousins
Josh Allen
Derek Carr
Joe Burrow

2 bums
1 emerging QB
13 legit QBs

I'm sensing a trend here.

why are we being negative here? We can't help it who we're playing against. We have no control over that. Let's take that negativity out of this thread please. This is a warning.

 

[ashley]

Josh Allen

32 pass TDs 13 INTs
3 - 4th quarter comebacks
4 game winning drives
746 rushing yards
6.5 YPC
7 rush TDs
13 fumbles.

Yeah he makes mistakes, but can dig himself out of trouble.

He's a top qb, no question, probably right there with Mahomes and Burrow. His running makes him very tough to deal with as well.

 

[upstater1]

We can win this game, even if the Bills have dominated recently.

Keep that four safety thing. I like it. Hopefully the Bills QB doesn’t. Turn him into a mistake-plagued player that he can be notwithstanding his elite arm talent.

Pressure him. Turn the Bills QB into a rookie again.

The unfortunate thing is that the Bills know how to beat the Patriots.

Throw short to RBs and slot guys.

The Bills more than anyone take advantage of Bentley and Tavai.

The Phins were moving the ball using that strategy.

Baltimore did the same thing to us. I don't know why so many NFL teams got away from killing us short but I've yet to see us defend a 5 yard pass.

Bentley and Tavai had horrible issues with the Phins yesterday. The Bills have run those plays 3x against us to great effect.

 

[State]

Bill has become involved with the offense. I could see it the second half. He got Mac Jones into a rhythm. Vastly improved the spacing of the receivers. And got Hunter Henry and Tyquan Thornton more involved.

Play Bourne more and put Patricia on a short leash. And what about Jonnu Smith? Get him involved and watch us score more than two TDs. On offense.

We can win this game, people. Belichick is the master.

 

[Patjew]

why are we being negative here? We can't help it who we're playing against. We have no control over that. Let's take that negativity out of this thread please. This is a warning.

Is it a warning or a warning!!!!!!!!!!?

That was a factual post.

 

[ashley]

Bill has become involved with the offense. I could see it the second half. He got Mac Jones into a rhythm. Vastly improved the spacing of the receivers. And got Hunter Henry and Tyquan Thornton more involved.

Play Bourne more and put Patricia on a short leash. And what about Jonnu Smith? Get him involved and watch us score more than two TDs. On offense.

We can win this game, people. Belichick is the master.

I agree with you on Bourne but those penalties aren't helping his case. I think he's a playmaker and can add another weapon to this offense.

Have to have faith!!!!!!!

 

[State]

The unfortunate thing is that the Bills know how to beat the Patriots.

Throw short to RBs and slot guys.

This is true. But what about playing extra safeties? Have stud Dugger as a hybrid linebacker/safety. Close in on run support. Follow Josh Allen’s eyes in pass defense.

The WR1 for the Bills does scare me. Will Jonathan Jones be able to play?

 

[ashley]

Is it a warning or a warning!!!!!!!!!!?

hmm....good question........just a warning, all that negativity isn't going to bring me down. Just like you Patjew, we're both die hard Pat fans and love this team and won't stand for posters coming on here and trashing them, not after a big win!!!! Let's gooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[State]

I agree with you on Bourne but those penalties aren't helping his case. I think he's a playmaker and can add another weapon to this offense.

Have to have faith!!!!!!!

I do. Being better rested than the Bills helps too.

 

[Patjew]

hmm....good question........just a warning, all that negativity isn't going to bring me down. Just like you Patjew, we're both die hard Pat fans and love this team and won't stand for posters coming on here and trashing them, not after a big win!!!! Let's gooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t think that was trashing at all, but you’re the boss!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[State]

This is the game that will prove Belichick is the greatest coach of all time. Even surpassing the great Don Shula.

Kendrick Bourne will have more receiving yards than Stefon Marsean Diggs.

Beautiful Devin McCourty returns a pick 6 INT to win us the game.

This game will become legendary.