Pre-Free Agency 2023

[Zuma]

Waste of money

Probably. A workout is free.

 

[Ring 6]

Probably. A workout is free.

I’d hope we aren’t wasting our time on him for anything other than a vet minimum roster bubble position.

 

[Pape]

Well it would be prudent to know what they are before concluding he won’t achieve them. Given the contract and market I really doubt that he would have signed this if they were not attainable.

Attainable or not, who's to say? the incentive clauses and their triggers have not been released to date afaik

 

[Ring 6]

Attainable or not, who's to say? the incentive clauses and their triggers have not been released to date afaik

Well those details have a lot to do with the real value of the contract

 

[Pape]

Well those details have a lot to do with the real value of the contract

Maybe, maybe not.

we wont know til we know.

 

[Real fan 02]

Was only playing on about a $5M salary this year. I'd definitely entertain bringing him in for in a 2 or 3 year deal for somewhere around that range. 3 years/$21M? He fits a role they need.

Well, all I can say is it's going to look a lot different with Rodgers throwing to Wilson, Mims and Moore... if this trade happens... the Jete are a QB away literally..

Garrett Wilson himself is already a problem for us at WR.. I have to hope BB has a plan in FA on defense at the corner position.

We need more than Jonathan Jones, we need more at CB than currently constructed.. Any physical 6"0 CBs that can play press man need apply..

 

[captain stone]

Was only playing on about a $5M salary this year. I'd definitely entertain bringing him in for in a 2 or 3 year deal for somewhere around that range. 3 years/$21M? He fits a role they need.

He doesn't fit it well enough. We have Marcus Jones as our P- & K-Returner, and I want better than him for our Slot WR.

 

[203Pat]

Well, all I can say is it's going to look a lot different with Rodgers throwing to Wilson, Mims and Moore... if this trade happens... the Jete are a QB away literally..

Garrett Wilson himself is already a problem for us at WR.. I have to hope BB has a plan in FA on defense at the corner position.

We need more than Jonathan Jones, we need more at CB than currently constructed.. Any physical 6"0 CBs that can play press man need apply..

I think Rodgers to the Jets is a match made in hell. Him and his smug, smarmy attitude with the NY Media could lead to disaster if the season doesn't start off well and with the Chiefs, Bills, and the NFC East on their schedule there is a chance they might not come out of the gate strong.

 

[captain stone]

Makes sense to me. Starting slot WR, depth at PR to spell Marcus Jones who is seeing a ton of snaps between DB, PR and occasional WR. Already has some familiarity with the system. Probably not that much money. Hopkins/Parker/Bourne/Thornton/Berrios? Then extend one of Parker or Bourne during the season to keep your WR room mostly intact for a few years.

We need to have better than him if we're really serious about trying to give Mac what Brady had at that position here.

 

[Ross12]

We need to have better than him if we're really serious about trying to give Mac what Brady had at that position here.

I would be fine with bringing him in with low guarantees and seeing if someone else beats him out. I think he’s fine but not spectacular.

 

[Real fan 02]

I think Rodgers to the Jets is a match made in hell. Him and his smug, smarmy attitude with the NY Media could lead to disaster if the season doesn't start off well and with the Chiefs, Bills, and the NFC East on their schedule there is a chance they might not come out of the gate strong.

Oh with a doubt I'm in agreement with you on that.. I was just referring too if it did work out and he came here and got in sync with those WRs.. We'd be seeing alot of the back of the jerseys on the CB'S if upgrades weren't made.. I believe we also have the Chiefs as well this season..

 

[Zuma]

We need to have better than him if we're really serious about trying to give Mac what Brady had at that position here.

Agree but he did play for the Jette…so theirs that. He also has a 6.72 3-cone….nothing to sneeze about. Lastly he has a unusual name to rhyme with. Braxton VeryNo’s. Maybe not.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

There is zero chance BB has him on this team.

I forgot about the heated BB/Theilen exchange. You're probably right.

 

[Real fan 02]

I forgot about the heated BB/Theilen exchange. You're probably right.

When it comes to FA I think we need to be considering all viable options who can help us.. the patriots culture is deeply engrained.. set by guys like ty law, bruschi, izzo, Ted Johnson, McGinest, to name a few and carried on by brady.. no one person will ever alter That no matter who we sign..

Sometimes I get caught up in the past as as a fan..We need to do everything we can to become a contender again.. the AFC is super loaded more so than it ever was!

 

[RobertWeathers]

I forgot about the heated BB/Theilen exchange. You're probably right.

I do like him a WR though. He called Bill a cheater. Better off calling him anything else but that...

 

[jdlboot14]

I just don't want any big-money, high-profile WR to come in FA. It never works - it just never works.
(Moss was not either when he came here, he was at an all-time career low when he signed)
Go back to our roots - find guys that can be great, not guys who were great somewhere else.
And start by taking care of your home-grown talent that is a perfect Patriot and wants to be here.

 

[jdlboot14]

Jets released Berrios - I'm serious that I think he could do really well back where he started. He has Edelman-like qualities.
A year ago he produced more than Bourne & Agholor. And can back up M. Jones on PR and KR.

 

[Love The Drake]

Jets released Berrios - I'm serious that I think he could do really well back where he started. He has Edelman-like qualities.
A year ago he produced more than Bourne & Agholor. And can back up M. Jones on PR and KR

BB go get BB.

 

[Pape]

Well those details have a lot to do with the real value of the contract

Seahawks can escape Geno Smith contract after one year, $28 million

It was broadcast to the world as a three-year, $105 million contract.

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Geno Smith | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Geno Smith signed a 3 year, $75,000,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including $40,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $25,000,000. In 2025, Smith will earn a base salary of $14,800,000, a roster bonus of $16,000,000 and a workout bonus of $200,000, while carrying a...

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there you go... its an ugly contract... geno basically gets 28 million bucks unless he tops his career year in 1 or any of 5 categories... thats a bad contract for him, but i guess making 28m isnt that not a bad considering last year he made 1.2m

 

[jdlboot14]

I wonder if Duron Harmon would be a good fit to come back if the Pats lose Peppers, and DMac actually retires.
He just turned 32 - but still playing at a high level last season in LV. He knows this place well, and could be a solid vet to man the FS role while Bledsoe or whomever gets up to speed. He seems faster and still more physical than what DMac has been the last 2 years.