Post Game Thread Pats @ Jets

[nowayback]

Better beating the jets then falcons losing to the dolphins at home ! Not the Pats team we are used to. Defense showing some positive signs ....offense missing JE , don't like all the long balls, grind it out .

 

[Mack Herron]

The ball is clearly hanging in mid-air, possessed by nobody, as it breaks the plane.

Football Zebras:
Patriots at Jets (video). Jets tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins scored what appeared to be a clear touchdown. On review, not only was the touchdown reversed, the ball went to the Patriots on a touchback.

Seferian-Jenkins bobbles the ball at the 1-yard line and subsequently re-controls the ball. The bobble makes the ball a “loose ball” under the rules. Any loose ball (which includes passes) follow the catch process to establish possession. It may seem like an arbitrary designation, but this is a clear way to bookend loose ball calls by keeping all loose balls consistent, no matter how they occur. Seferian-Jenkins is going to the ground as he regains control of the ball, and lands out of bounds in the end zone. This takes the ball, still considered loose, out of bounds in the end zone, which is a touchback and loss of possession.

It seems like a very harsh call to go against the offense, but this is consistent with all other rules regarding the end zone. This has been reviewed by the Competition Committee in the past, and they have deferred on making changes to an offensive fumble out of the end zone being ruled touchback.



Quick calls: Week 6 | Football Zebras

Replay does not show clearly when ball crosses goal line. Everyone in the studio said that. Makes up for that missed FG call.

 

[TommyD4207]

I dont give a flying f**k about any stupid breakdowns of the play, if you were a fan of any other team but the pats there is no chance you would think that was the right call..

"I don't care about the actual rules, or what actually happened so RABBLERABBLERABBLERABBLE"

 

[Brick27]

There's some atrocious tendencies on this defense that still haven't been fixed.

I get it, "a win is a win" - nobody argues otherwise. But man, there's no need to sugar-coat and constantly excuse the concerning play of the defense. Their play doesn't project well going forward against playoff caliber teams.

Agreed. Would make for much more engaging and fun convo here to break things down more. Isn't dissection as fans what we're suppose to do on a message board?

But instead.. if a fault is mentioned, even in a polite and harmless way, the response is often.. "OH MY GOD YOU CHICKEN LITTLE"... I guess some would rather just be Pom Pom shakers.

There's a happy medium of course between "End of the world" and "everything is perfect", but man..would think constructive criticism would be more accepted.

 

[maineman209]

WTF were those calls? I've don't think I've ever seen that.

I'd bet that defensive holding by DL goes uncalled even more often than offensive holding by OL.

The question is why this crew suddenly decided at that moment to start calling it.

 

[Ring 6]

I dont give a flying f**k about any stupid breakdowns of the play, if you were a fan of any other team but the pats there is no chance you would think that was the right call..

So they shouldn't make the call based upon what the rule is?
I'm guessing you think the tuck rule was a bad call even though it was 100% correct.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

I dont give a flying f**k about any stupid breakdowns of the play, if you were a fan of any other team but the pats there is no chance you would think that was the right call..

You would if you had the sense of a gnat which you clearly don't

 

[Bartmac36]

One thing it 100% certainly was not is an incomplete pass.

Question the rule? Fair enough
Question whether there was sufficient evidence to overturn? Fair enough
Question whether it was a completion? You're out of your mind.

Then dez bryant also scored a touchdown against the packers in the playoffs a few years back. Blame the rulebook if you want to, i dont care who or what is at fault. That is an absolutely horrific call that bailed the pats out

 

[Dingleberry]

I dont give a flying f**k about any stupid breakdowns of the play, if you were a fan of any other team but the pats there is no chance you would think that was the right call..

There's a difference between not liking a rule and disagreeing with a rule. You honestly sound like the morons who have been crying "fumble" about the tuck rule for the past 16 years.

I don't particularly like the rule either, but it was the right call.

Incomplete pass? What the fark?

 

[Ring 6]

Agreed. Would make for much more engaging and fun convo here to break things down more. Isn't dissection as fans what we're suppose to do on a message board?

But instead.. if a fault is mentioned, even in a polite and harmless way, the response is often.. "OH MY GOD YOU CHICKEN LITTLE"... I guess some would rather just be Pom Pom shakers.

There's a happy medium of course between "End of the world" and "everything is perfect", but man..would think constructive criticism would be more accepted.

This is disingenuous. Reasonable analysis and constructive criticism is never called chicken little here. Prediction (and certainty) of doom is.

 

[maineman209]

I dont give a flying f**k about any stupid breakdowns of the play, if you were a fan of any other team but the pats there is no chance you would think that was the right call..

Wait! Are we now giving f**ks about what fans of other teams think? Did I miss the memo?

 

[TommyD4207]

Then dez bryant also scored a touchdown against the packers in the playoffs a few years back.

W-what?

Was this your first football game? I could understand this line of rant better if it was.

 

[luuked]

Laugh all you want.

 

[Tony2046]

AT WORST, thats an incomplete pass call. The fact that the pats got possession of the ball is just an utter embarrassment. Having said that, its an officiating issue, not a patriots issue

He had control when approaching the goal line so incomplete pass is out of the question.

He lost control before crossing the goal line. That's clear.

What I couldn't see is if he regained control before touching any part of his body out of bounds. If he didn't then that's the right call. It's no different than if he had fumbled the ball and it went through the end zone.

To be clear: If he regained control and the ball was over the pylon but any part of his body was out of bounds the ball is ruled out of bounds.

 

[Bartmac36]

You would if you had the sense of a gnat which you clearly don't

So they shouldn't make the call based upon what the rule is?
I'm guessing you think the tuck rule was a bad call even though it was 100% correct.

Literally everyone outside of delusional pats nation thinks the tuck rule was a terrible call.. theres a reason they got rid of that rule

 

[ThatllMoveTheChains!!!]

I'd bet that defensive holding by DL goes uncalled even more often than offensive holding by OL.

The question is why this crew suddenly decided at that moment to start calling it.

Since I can't recall it ever being called besides recently against the Patriots I'll agree.

 

[Creative Username]

One thing I guess we can say is that the Pats have largely (and barely) persevered in the crunch time situations. They've had to rally, play from behind and make last second stops. Hopefully these experiences benefits us down the road.

I agree with this statement completely. This team has a fighting spirit. Game-Winning Drive vs. Texans, Down 2 TDs against Carolina, Brady brought them back in the 4th Q., Last minute drive stop against the Bucs, and now a hard fought win against a division rival.

Teams in the past like 2011, 2012 and 2015 got used to being up early and riding a big lead to a win. When crunch time comes later in the year, the players will be so used to the situation there should be no nerves whatsoever.

Hard to say that as a fan I wouldn't rather have the 3 TD victories, but in the long run it might pay off.

 

[Deus Irae]

Laugh all you want.

I will. The defense was crap. Getting bailed out by a terrible opposing offense doesn't change that.


And you're football savvy enough that you should know that.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

Pats got robbed on several non-DPI calls today.

The refs were just overall terrible as usual and no, they were not out to get anyone.

 

[luuked]

I will. The defense was crap. Getting bailed out by a terrible opposing offense doesn't change that.


And you're football savvy enough that you should know that.