Post Game Thread- Pats at Lions

[captain stone]

I would swap Phil Dorsett for Dontrelle Inman right feckin now. Dorsett just plain sucks.

 

[supafly]

That's great news. Not sure what to expect from Gordon, but CP as the #2 WR would have been a disaster.

Don’t get too excited. It’s still quite a disaster, whether it’s Patrerson or Dorsett. You’re right that it’s a bit less of an issue with Dorsett, though.

 

[supafly]

I would swap Phil Dorsett for Dontrelle Inman right feckin now. Dorsett just plain sucks.

He’s terrible. I think that idea is starting to sink in. This will be his 23rd game here, on Sunday.

 

[DaBruinz]

It was indeed addition by subtraction, but I still wanted another young Safety to replace Glitch and add to the pipeline.

I'm fairly certain that Dawson will be that safety..

 

[DaBruinz]

I would swap Phil Dorsett for Dontrelle Inman right feckin now. Dorsett just plain sucks.

More ridiculous blathering from Captain Stonehead.. How many rings you have again??

 

[luuked]

Your critique of Brady's play last week was idiotic when you were making it last week. It continues to be so today.

But yeah whatever.. all those idiots that have no clue what they are seeing right ?

 

[ralmat55]

Yes, we’ve established that something called Evan Lazar is the preeminent authority on all things football.

 

[luuked]

Yes, we’ve established that something called Evan Lazar is the preeminent authority on all things football.

Shows how absolutely clueless and disconnected from the review scene you are if you don't know him and how he usually is pretty protective of Brady.

But whatever lets go with your gut feeling. What good is film review or actual deep knowledge of the game when you have your eyes, right ?

 

[Kontradiction]

No doubt has massive experience from actually playing the game. I'd like to know what "a lot of things" are, specifically. The OC was calling running plays when the team was down big late in the game because there was absolutely zero confidence in the team being able to score through the air. That's because, and I know this is going to come as a shocker, the WRs are not very good. Their #1 is at best a #3, their #2 is at best a #4, and their #3 is at best a #5 and should primarily be used as a return man because he's not a good route runner. But sure, let's ignore that and toss most of the blame at the GOAT QB and none of it at the personnel guy that picked this turd of a WR corps. Because bird boy says so.

 

[luuked]

But sure, let's ignore that and toss most of the blame at the GOAT QB and none of it at the personnel guy that picked this turd of a WR corps.

Nobody is putting MOST of the blame on Brady. You are just moving the goalposts.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

But sure, let's ignore that and toss most of the blame at the GOAT QB and none of it at the personnel guy that picked this turd of a WR corps. Because bird boy says so.

Yeah, because all the keyboard warriors and internet tough guys on this forum have such extensive real-life football experience (and stellar physiques, for that matter). Pot, kettle, black.

 

[Kontradiction]

Nobody is putting MOST of the blame on Brady. You are just moving the goalposts.

1. You're accusing me of the wrong fallacy.

2. Bird boy's tweet is literally putting most of the blame on Brady. The first and the second. You can infer that he worded it poorly if you'd like, but the first tweet is pretty damning.

Now if you're of the correct opinion that the WRs are a problem, how well do you expect the quarterback to play? We heard this same crap in 2013 and as soon as the WR position was fixed going into the following season, Brady suddenly wasn't a "problem" anymore.

 

[Kontradiction]

Yeah, because all the keyboard warriors and internet tough guys on this forum have such extensive real-life football experience (and stellar physiques, for that matter). Pot, kettle, black.

Hit a nerve eh? Is Lazar your son? Played football into college and have demonstrated much more of an understanding of the game than you have in all of your years here. How far did your feeble, decrepit old ass go? Stick to the queer little drive-by disagrees and dislikes. They suit you much better.

 

[AlexB]

Don’t get too excited. It’s still quite a disaster, whether it’s Patrerson or Dorsett. You’re right that it’s a bit less of an issue with Dorsett, though.

I'll take "bit less of an issue" at this point.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

It’s amazing just how bad a WR Phillip Dorset is when you watch the films...he can only run 1-2 routes, he lacks separation ability, doesn’t know how to find the ball, he’s been exposed badly as a starting WR

Dorset is a number 4 WR at best and nothing more

 

[Kdo5]

No doubt has massive experience from actually playing the game. I'd like to know what "a lot of things" are, specifically. The OC was calling running plays when the team was down big late in the game because there was absolutely zero confidence in the team being able to score through the air. That's because, and I know this is going to come as a shocker, the WRs are not very good. Their #1 is at best a #3, their #2 is at best a #4, and their #3 is at best a #5 and should primarily be used as a return man because he's not a good route runner. But sure, let's ignore that and toss most of the blame at the GOAT QB and none of it at the personnel guy that picked this turd of a WR corps. Because pizza face says so.

His receiving group is a bunch of impotent JAGs right now. Brady doesn't need world beaters out there but he does need guys who can get open, catch the ball and occasionally make plays. It is 2006 and 2013 all over again. Except his current crop are somehow less capable than Reche Caldwell and Aaron Dobson.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

FTW - WOW. Gotta love the ridiculous over-reaction and outright BS from you.

- Collins ain't doing squat in Cleveland.
- You're so great that you can see the future that Wynn isn't going to pan out? Guess you better play the lottery so you can retire.
- Jones wasn't given away for a bag of magic beans. Cooper and a 2nd round pick. That 2nd round pick turned into Thuney and Mitchell.

Years of bad drafts?
You don't seem to remember BAD DRAFTS..

“Thuney and Mitchell”

Mitchell is out of the league two years later. Thuney has regressed and appears to be headed for a backup role sooner than later.

In your opinion is that an acceptable price for a 26 year old who finished 2nd in voting for NFC defensive player of the year???

 

[NG Pats Fan]

So, BB is supposed to be able to see the future and know the following:
That Wynn, Berrios, Dawson, Izzo and Sam are going to suffer injuries that require them to be IRed.

That Garcia is going to be stricken with blood clots in his lungs that hadn't shown up on the Combine Physical or the Patriots Physical in May or the TC Physical in July.

BB is supposed to see the future and know that Rivers would tear his ACL in Camp.

People forget how good the Pats 2016 draft actually was. Thuney, Brissett, Valentine, Karras, Hill, Mitchell. Roberts is mediocre, but also came from that draft. Hill was lost when the Pats tried to stash him on their PS. He's been an outstanding STs player for the Eagles. Without Mitchell, the Pats don't win the SB. Thuney has been a solid, though not outstanding LG. Karras is a good back-up on the interior and showed himself a capable spot starter.

The 2015 draft was pretty good as well. Malcolm Brown, Trey Flowers, Shaq Mason, Joe Cardona, Geneo Grissom, and Daryl Roberts. Roberts was another one they lost trying to get to the PS. Grissom has been a decent role player on STs.

The 2014 draft netted them Garoppolo, Stork, White, and Fleming.

The 2013 draft netted them Collins, Harmon, and Ryan.

I know that Malcolm Brown isn't an All-Pro, but at the 32 pick of the 1st round, should he be?
You have starters in Thuney, Flowers, Mason. You have excellent long snapper Joe Cardona.

Disagree on 2016 draft being a good one.

4 of the first 5 picks of the 2016 draft are no longer on the team.

 

[Kontradiction]

His receiving group is a bunch of impotent JAGs right now. Brady doesn't need world beaters out there but he does need guys who can get open, catch the ball and occasionally make plays. It is 2006 and 2013 all over again. Except his current crop are somehow less capable than Reche Caldwell and Aaron Dobson.

Most people who know even a modicum about the game can see that. What’s disturbing here is that Lazar breaks down film and is still having trouble putting 2 and 2 together (although there is hope because he also clarified that the WRs are a problem).

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

“Thuney and Mitchell”

Mitchell is out of the league two years later. Thuney has regressed and appears to be headed for a backup role sooner than later.

In your opinion is that an acceptable price for a 26 year old who finished 2nd in voting for NFC defensive player of the year???

The end game is a Lombardi right?