Polk instead Kingsley Suamataia?

[bresna]

I'm sure by the end of this season there will be a whole slew of "We should have taken him" posts here. Drafting with 20/20 hindsight is easy.

 

[Wozzy]

Yes, the point here is that the entire group of 2nd-3rd round tackles “sucks” right now. People wanted to pick and choose who the Patriots should have drafted to be the immediate positive contributor at LT, and right now the answer appears to be none of the above. The 100 posts hyping up Suamataia as the immediate answer at LT were wrong. The maybe 5 posts hyping up Wallace as the immediate answer at LT were also wrong.

(He left with a knee injury, not being benched due to performance. Not that it really matters.)

Polk has 30 yards through 3 games… is he struggling?

Without blocking nobody else can do their job. Should have addressed the OLine after they took Maye, should have addressed it in free agency rather than begging Aiyuk and Ridley to take a big bag of money to come here… that’s the point.

 

[Wozzy]

I'm sure by the end of this season there will be a whole slew of "We should have taken him" posts here. Drafting with 20/20 hindsight is easy.

It’s not hindsight for those of us pounding the table to take a tackle in round two on draft day.

 

[Grogan14]

Polk looks fine. Hardly getting any targets due to crap

 

[bresna]

It’s not hindsight for those of us pounding the table to take a tackle in round two on draft day.

It will be hindsight when every good OT drafted is someone we should have taken while the other teams' whiffs will be ignored.

The draft is a crapshoot. Some players make the cut, others don't. Cherry picking the ones who make it as someone we should have drafted is just dumb.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

It’s not hindsight for those of us pounding the table to take a tackle in round two on draft day.

Yeah its not hindsight, its just plain useless. If you put any of those 2nd rd OT’s everyone was clamoring for on this team the results thus far would have been the same to this point. They have all either been as bad as lowe/wallace or cant get on the field.

We get that the front office has misfired at OT , but so has everyone here. So did Bill the last 2-3 years.

 

[Wozzy]

It will be hindsight when every good OT drafted is someone we should have taken while the other teams' whiffs will be ignored.

The draft is a crapshoot. Some players make the cut, others don't. Cherry picking the ones who make it as someone we should have drafted is just dumb.

I specifically chose two OT's to take in the second round after the Pats traded down and said it in real-time on draft threads.

They took Polk instead, the Dolphins chose Paul, the Chiefs chose Sumiata. That's the very definition of not cherry picking.

 

[Wozzy]

Yeah its not hindsight, its just plain useless. If you put any of those 2nd rd OT’s everyone was clamoring for on this team the results thus far would have been the same to this point. They have all either been as bad as lowe/wallace or cant get on the field.

We get that the front office has misfired at OT , but so has everyone here. So did Bill the last 2-3 years.

One month of football doesn't make a season or a career. It's not a misfire if these rookie tackle improve to the point of excellence.

Moreover I provided some excellent bridge free agent OT's they could have brought in instead of Okorafor and Lowe that cost similar money and who could have played until the rookies were ready.

Now we just have people dancing around the truth because they see what an abject disaster the offensive line is.

 

[Nunchucks]

I like Polk. Patriots will get the first LT in the draft in 2025

 

[signbabybrady]

One month of football doesn't make a season or a career. It's not a misfire if these rookie tackle improve to the point of excellence.

Moreover I provided some excellent bridge free agent OT's they could have brought in instead of Okorafor and Lowe that cost similar money and who could have played until the rookies were ready.

Now we just have people dancing around the truth because they see what an abject disaster the offensive line is.

People just care about the results no one cares that were Nostradamus.

Our OL is brutally bad and Paul or Sua were not changing that. I thought we should have traded 2025 pick and moved as far up as we could in the first but I don't think that would help right now either.

With Strange and Sow out and with Onwenwu taking a step back I'm not sure any rookie LT would fix this right now.

There's no question the talent is lacking but I'm starting to question some of the coaching now too as every move they make seems to just make things worse.

 

[Wozzy]

People just care about the results no one cares that were Nostradamus.

Our OL is brutally bad and Paul or Sua were not changing that. I thought we should have traded 2025 pick and moved as far up as we could in the first but I don't think that would help right now either.

With Strange and Sow out and with Onwenwu taking a step back I'm not sure any rookie LT would fix this right now.

There's no question the talent is lacking but I'm starting to question some of the coaching now too as every move they make seems to just make things worse.

Sumiata or Paul have the chance to do what many rookie linemen have done in the past. Play, have some growing pains, improve to finish out their rookie seasons strong. Hell even Wallace and Robinson can improve in a similar fashion.

The talent is lacking. I'd rather possess the talent and have to develop and coach it up... than not have it at all.

 

[signbabybrady]

Sumiata or Paul have the chance to do what many rookie linemen have done in the past. Play, have some growing pains, improve to finish out their rookie seasons strong. Hell even Wallace and Robinson can improve in a similar fashion.

The talent is lacking. I'd rather possess the talent and have to develop and coach it up... than not have it at all.

Well Sua and Paul aren't walking through the door

 

[Wozzy]

Well Sua and Paul aren't walking through the door

That's true, but that wasn't the point of this thread.

The entire point was to question the wisdom of ignoring the offensive line in the 2nd round for a WR.

The combination of this ^ and signing a bunch of stiffs in free agency is haunting this team now.

 

[signbabybrady]

That's true, but that wasn't the point of this thread.

The entire point was to question the wisdom of ignoring the offensive line in the 2nd round for a WR.

The combination of this ^ and signing a bunch of stiffs in free agency is haunting this team now.

Not very wise and way worse than haunting.

That said I kind of like Polk and think he'll be ok.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

One month of football doesn't make a season or a career. It's not a misfire if these rookie tackle improve to the point of excellence.

Moreover I provided some excellent bridge free agent OT's they could have brought in instead of Okorafor and Lowe that cost similar money and who could have played until the rookies were ready.

Now we just have people dancing around the truth because they see what an abject disaster the offensive line is.

Yes i agree with your first sentence at least which is exactly why you all need to move on from this until we see what comes of these rookies. I believe @DaBruinz addressed your fa stopgap options in another thread and the research showed none of them are really helping their teams much either at this point.

Its alot easier to say I”ll spend x amount of dollars or use our rd x pick to fill our needs at tackle but actually filling them is another story. Given the options you provided both in here and in FA we very likely would have looked roughly the same through 3 weeks, just with more resources put in. So far the vast majority of the options provided have proven no better than lowe or wallace. Maybe tyron smith would’ve been a legit good move as hes been pretty solid for the jets thus far but we’ll see if he even lasts half the season.

Anyone who followed this team with an open mind the last few seasons eventually crumbling to 4-13 last year should know and accept that this rebuild was going to take multiple years and theres no fast fix to this. You don’t just go out and get a qb, 2 starting OT’s , and improve your wr depth in one offseason while locking up a good amount your key core players. The best we can hope is maye is the real deal, polk is a legit starter eventually, and cadean works out at one of the ot spots and next year we’re in position to land a more sure investment at the other. Then start filling out cb, edge, and other secondary needs.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Chiefs to start Wanya Morris at left tackle vs. Falcons; rookie Kingsley Suamataia benched

Perhaps this will dissuade @FredFromDartmouth from posting these dumb-ass, premature threads going forward. Probably not.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Sumiata will be out there starting this weekend, we'll see if he develops and learns from adversity.

Lowe is a jag, he shouldn't be starting but will because Elliot Wolf didn't do his job this offseason.

Having no better options does not equate to "better."

You sure about that?

 

[stinkypete]

Chiefs to start Wanya Morris at left tackle vs. Falcons; rookie Kingsley Suamataia benched

Perhaps this will dissuade @FredFromDartmouth from posting these dumb-ass, premature threads going forward. Probably not.

When I read about the Suamataia benching, this thread was the first thing I thought about.

We won't know much about either of these players until the end of 2026, at the earliest.

 

[Wozzy]

You sure about that?

We’ll see how this season goes, I had Patrick Paul graded higher.

The complete unknown of both was better than entering this season with no options which is what the Pat’s did.

I’d also add I wanted some much better free agent OT’s who were available so they didn’t have to start the rookie unless he earned it.

We got Okorafor and Lowe instead… dumb.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Chiefs to start Wanya Morris at left tackle vs. Falcons; rookie Kingsley Suamataia benched

Perhaps this will dissuade @FredFromDartmouth from posting these dumb-ass, premature threads going forward. Probably not.

You start about the pats rookies getting benched? How about Wallace ?