Patriots Rumor Per Jeremy Fowler: Patriots have their sights set on Tyler Lockett

[Give Kraft A Hand]

Lackluster, Nelson Agholar would be more exciting.

Yeah let’s not do Agholar again please. Lockett would be fine though as a WR3.

 

[Ross12]

Or I would offer the second or third rounder for Michael Pittman, or Jaylen Reed.
Cap space we had that cap to go 6 or 7 million more a year on top O line talent


Even if it's no A level if we have to overpay to protect Drake so be it.

What does “cap space we had that to go 6 or 7 million more a year on top O line talent” mean?

And you’re saying trade pick 4 for DK Metcalf, their 2nd for Michael Pittman and their 3rd for Jaylen Reed. So… you now have practically no draft picks anymore… and you still have an LT and a 4th WR left to get

 

[Hammer of Thor]

But you said you’d acquire “a franchise LT and 4 top WRs”… so where are the other 4 players besides this one WR coming from?

You said you’d get 4 WR and a tackle …

Sounds like George Costanza as GM. “I’ve figured out a way to get us Barry Bonds and Ken Griffey Jr., and it wouldn’t cost us that much.”

 

[stinkypete]

I’m fine with it. He’s a professional, probably an upgrade over everyone here except for Pop, and he won’t sign a contact that hamstrings us in 2026 and beyond. I’m not super stoked, but we keep getting marginally better.

 

[dliverey44]

Lockett's numbers have gradually dipped across the board the last two seasons and you can't blame it on health (he's only sat for 3 games his whole career). Success rate particularly. Not the player he used to be (which was a high end NFL WR2 at his peak). I'd pass unless they plan to pair him with a better WR afterward. If 2020 Damiere Byrd does it for you then I guess Lockett is for you.

I do not think Lockett would be a good signing. I think he is still good and that fact that he wasn't targeted as much has more to do with DK and JSN. Dude still opens, he had a 42% route win rate and averaged 2.7 yards of separation and 1.36 separation when targeted. He can win vs man but is much better against Zone. I am not sure he is the guy the WR room needs other than he has done it at a high level for several years.

 

[patfanken]

Once again kraft super cheap. Patriots trying to find value at WR by dumpster diving

Lockett is completely washed up. What are we doing?

Poor Drake Maye

How did Kraft show he was "cheap again". God I'm getting so tired of that little meme that has turned from a comment into the truth just because it's been randomly repeated so often without comment.

Was he cheap when he came up with $187MM to buy the Patriots and was then ridiculed for paying so much. And it was only because of him that we didn't have to fight for some expanchise team in the early 2000's and seeing the Pats playing in St. Louis. Or maybe he was cheap when he paid for that new stadium with money AGAIN out of his own pocket and all the hundreds of millions in upgrades without asking for anything out YOUR pocketbooks, like every other NFL own has done since. Maybe get a little get a little thank you there. Or how about all the other things he did for the franchise like being the first to have their own planes. One of the first to have their own nutritionist. When they need a hill for practice....there was a hill and so many others.

Labeled forever because they couldn't figure out how to pay Tom Brady $25MM for 2 years. None of the yahoos have ever explained to me how the Pats who played the 2021 season with no cap space paying Cam $1MM were supposed to pay Tom $25 for the next 2 years. How many players would have had to be let go to keep Tom (assuming Tom ultimately wanted to stay with an aging crumbling roster)

OK sorry for the rant. The Krafts have done more for the Pats and the NE community and local charities than any other pro franchise in the area. So much stuff with so little fan fair and there are a few who really treat them like dirt. It's fine to criticize decisions thy made. I certainly haven't liked all of them, but this stoops personally and dare I say anti-sematic

Hey the BIG LIE is for real folks. If your balls are big enough, and you say it often enough and consistently enough a significant amount of people will start to believe it. Moderator please feel free to edit or delete this if you think I went over the line

 

[dliverey44]

Once again kraft super cheap. Patriots trying to find value at WR by dumpster diving

Lockett is completely washed up. What are we doing?

Poor Drake Maye

Why do you say he is washed?

 

[dliverey44]

Biggest problem with patriots front office. When they miss out on a quality wide receiver, they simply settle for lesser talent

I don't understand how that is necessarily a bad thing as long as them settling for lesser talent is still valuable to the team. Or should they not make any moves if they get rebuffed? I mean that is a wild statement

 

[JohnJH]

What does “cap space we had that to go 6 or 7 million more a year on top O line talent” mean?

And you’re saying trade pick 4 for DK Metcalf, their 2nd for Michael Pittman and their 3rd for Jaylen Reed. So… you now have practically no draft picks anymore… and you still have an LT and a 4th WR left to get

Sadly, some on here would do just that.

 

[VrabelJr]

Lockett is a really crafty and intelligent player, which is something our locker room could sorely use. This feels like someone that can contribute as a three or four, but can also help all the other young players become pros.

 

[captain stone]

Do it, as in , like, ****ing yesterday.

Dude's the Anti-Steph Infection Diggs too.

 

[Ring 6]

How did Kraft show he was "cheap again". God I'm getting so tired of that little meme that has turned from a comment into the truth just because it's been randomly repeated so often without comment.

Was he cheap when he came up with $187MM to buy the Patriots and was then ridiculed for paying so much. And it was only because of him that we didn't have to fight for some expanchise team in the early 2000's and seeing the Pats playing in St. Louis. Or maybe he was cheap when he paid for that new stadium with money AGAIN out of his own pocket and all the hundreds of millions in upgrades without asking for anything out YOUR pocketbooks, like every other NFL own has done since. Maybe get a little get a little thank you there. Or how about all the other things he did for the franchise like being the first to have their own planes. One of the first to have their own nutritionist. When they need a hill for practice....there was a hill and so many others.

Labeled forever because they couldn't figure out how to pay Tom Brady $25MM for 2 years. None of the yahoos have ever explained to me how the Pats who played the 2021 season with no cap space paying Cam $1MM were supposed to pay Tom $25 for the next 2 years. How many players would have had to be let go to keep Tom (assuming Tom ultimately wanted to stay with an aging crumbling roster)

OK sorry for the rant. The Krafts have done more for the Pats and the NE community and local charities than any other pro franchise in the area. So much stuff with so little fan fair and there are a few who really treat them like dirt. It's fine to criticize decisions thy made. I certainly haven't liked all of them, but this stoops personally and dare I say anti-sematic

Hey the BIG LIE is for real folks. If your balls are big enough, and you say it often enough and consistently enough a significant amount of people will start to believe it. Moderator please feel free to edit or delete this if you think I went over the line

From my perspective the discussion about Kraft being cheap has nothing to do with what he paid for the team or the stadium or patriot place or gifts for his grandchildren.
It’s about one and only one thing, how much he pays to put the best tan in the field. Over the last 10 years the best data available puts the patriots are 28 out of 32 teams.

I suppose a second measure would be facilities and how much he spends on amenities, quality of travel etc but the NFLPA surveys that aren’t kind to him either.

It surprises me that many people are emotional about this topic.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Cowden is a highly regarded evaluator. Stretch is a jack of all trades. I think the deals you’re (and a lot of people are) talking about require some skill at wheeling and dealing. It’ll be interesting if we’ve gotten better at that from last year.

I just think that between all of them they have a clear plan to turn them into a contender, and will get it done. Belichick actually credited Wolf for the draft day trade that brought them Barmore.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Or I would offer the second or third rounder for Michael Pittman, or Jaylen Reed.
Cap space we had that cap to go 6 or 7 million more a year on top O line talent


Even if it's no A level if we have to overpay to protect Drake so be it.

Then you have given away all their draft resources, spent way too much on wide receivers, and built an expensive but still dogshit line you can’t get out of for four years minimum that gets your quarterback killed in the “ playoffs” ( I don’t believe you would get there) because it s a dogshit line. Honestly, I could understand your takes making sense to you, if you were 6-8 years old, but last I heard you are supposed to be an adult, and from an “adult” they are just ridiculous.

 

[mike_usagisan]

I just think that between all of them they have a clear plan to turn them into a contender, and will get it done. Belichick actually credited Wolf for the draft day trade that brought them Barmore.

I hope you're right. The story of Wolf relying on the Bills to allow us to trade back into round 1 of last year isn't inspiring a lot of faith.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I hope you're right. The story of Wolf relying on the Bills to allow us to trade back into round 1 of last year isn't inspiring a lot of faith.

Wolf isn’t in charge anymore, Vrabel is. Wolf is essentially functioning as one of the guys informing Vrabel, and Vrabel makes the final decisions.

 

[Thelonious]

I think the quest for a "proven" (i.e. old) WR is about the least important aspect of the rebuild. By the time this team is actually competitive, any of these geriatric receivers will be strolling behind a walker somewhere on a tropical beach.

 

[Triumph]

Rather have Diggs

Lockett is another shrimp WR.

 

[Triumph]

Wolf isn’t in charge anymore, Vrabel is. Wolf is essentially functioning as one of the guys informing Vrabel, and Vrabel makes the final decisions.

Why is Wolfe still around then?

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Cowden is a highly regarded evaluator. Stretch is a jack of all trades. I think the deals you’re (and a lot of people are) talking about require some skill at wheeling and dealing. It’ll be interesting if we’ve gotten better at that from last year.

Is it possible to be worse at wheeling and dealing than last year?