Per Breer: Mac Jones "infuriating" coaches with decision making

[PatsFan2]

I would prefer a fresh new QB out of the draft because they don't have to 'unlearn' any bad habits.

Kyler Murray didn't have the best environment in Arizona.

On top of that he has a lot of durability issues tied in to his lack of size. He's 5'9 and 200 lbs soaking wet.

The other serious issue to consider is his massive 37 million dollar salary for 2024.

Salary details at Spotrac: Kyler Murray

With a rookie QB you pay them less up front so you have the money to also go into free agency to either sign a big time playmaker at WR or a veteran tackle who can protect the new QB's blindside.

Maybe BB can ask him to restructure.

 

[*ChungFu*]

There are a lot of correct answers to Mac's slide in the article and in this thread. What I noticed and didn't like before the slide, was that veterans were advising Mac to "loosen up and have more fun" according to interviews that I saw with Devin McCourty. So Mac went from a super serious competitor who may have been too hard on himself to a goofy griddy dope. Right or wrong; you have to be yourself.

 

[captain stone]

Maybe BB can ask him to restructure.

That's the only way I would even consider bringing him here.

 

[VJCPatriot]

The next guy will have a lot less on his shoulders. Mac is standing in Tom Brady’s spot like an imposter. The next guy will be standing in Mac Jones spot as a dramatic improvement.

I thought that 'next guy' was Cam Newton. Does TB12 still cast a shadow 4 years later and having already retired from the game?

 

[Real fan 02]

Lance lost his job to Purdy. If he was anything special right now that wouldn't have happened. He hasn't been good at all when he has stepped on the field.
He's a project, nothing more. At this point in time there's no reason to think he'll ever live up to the hype or get another start in the NFL ever again barring injuries.

Mac can start in the NFL. Because he actually is a starter for an NFL team right now. If that's not worth at least a 4th to a team then that team should keep looking.

Lance is interesting because he has a cannon for an arm, ultra athletic and st 6"4 is a big QB. He got injured and when he came back it just didn't happen for him. I still believe Lance, like Mac is salvageable he is too athletic and talented not too. Mac definitely is worth a low 3rd, high 4th rounder.

 

[Real fan 02]

That's the only way I would even consider bringing him here.

I'm all set on Kyler Murray.. talented, but if an organization has to include film study in your deal...

 

[PATS16N0]

I thought that 'next guy' was Cam Newton. Does TB12 still cast a shadow 4 years later and having already retired from the game?

Yes.

 

[n1997y]

Lance is interesting because he has a cannon for an arm, ultra athletic and st 6"4 is a big QB. He got injured and when he came back it just didn't happen for him. I still believe Lance, like Mac is salvageable he is too athletic and talented not too. Mac definitely is worth a low 3rd, high 4th rounder.

I’d swap Mac for Lance. In a heartbeat. Wouldn’t you?

I don’t know if Lance can think on his feet and read defenses, but we all thought Mac could. What we’ve seen is that the only proof is on 5he field performance, and we now know what that’s been for 3 years of Corky.

 

[Thelonious]

I know everyone hates Breer and I am sure we will get a picture of his mugshot for some reason but he singles out a specific play the coaches got pissed about. Seems to me the spin control PR machine is being fired up in the coaching offices.

I admire Breer. He is one of the best.

Mac needs a time out.

Zappe isn’t the answer.

Malik isn’t ready yet.

Grier is what’s left.

It has been my view that Bill's mismanagement of Mac's development sort of entitles Mac to an extended opportunity to show what he can do. On the other hand, it may well be that in order to be able to show what he can do, he may indeed "need a time out." It's a goddam mess it what it is. Mac seems shot at this point: traumatized, baffled and stressed by three years of incompetent horseshit. Could he have done batter in dealing with the stresses? I suppose so, but there is no doubting he has been offered a **** sandwich and urged to eat hearty. The way to prevent a recurrence of present and past failures is to fire Bill immediately as GM, so that work of rebuilding the team can begin in earnest. Whether Bill then chooses to run out his dismal damned performance as HC for the remainder of the year is up to him. I couldn't care less. To my eye, his increasingly poor work as HC, though not yet as fireably bad as his GM work, makes his dismissal as HC an increasingly justified prospect by the week. Surely no one will assert that this is at this point a "well-coached team." The need for a new GM is the more urgent matter, given that work toward rebuilding the roster - work which falls largely to a GM - must begin anon, and we do not want input, let alone a decision-making role, from Bill in areas in which he is demonstrably incompetent.

Zappe is obviously not good enough, and Malik really is not ready, so I guess that by sheer default Grier gets a shot if the determination is made that a break for Mac is best for all concerned, Mac included. Given that "what is best for the team" is now, sadly enough, for the team to win as few more games as possible, it makes little sense to worry much about whether Grier or anybody else can "turn the team around," so it probably doesn't matter much who plays tbh. In addition, unless the move would be in anticipation of the player's playing a major role next year, I would not bother taking on a veteran or any other QB prospect over the season's remaining weeks. Why bother?

P.S, A portion of this has indeed "already been discussed," and - as it remains the #1 issue and priority for the team - I expect it will be discussed again. This post represents a shift in my view re Mac in any case, and is thus not a matter already discussed. But whatever: those who are perennially butt hurt over a degree of reptitiveness in discussion of matters which are persistently relevant will just have to suck it up. I will continue to pay no attention whatever to this particlularly asinine emoji.

 

[sb1]

I’d swap Mac for Lance. In a heartbeat. Wouldn’t you?

I don’t know if Lance can think on his feet and read defenses, but we all thought Mac could. What we’ve seen is that the only proof is on 5he field performance, and we now know what that’s been for 3 years of Corky.

I would have swapped them in 2021 after the draft but not now. If Lance was going to reach his potential we would have seen it already. The 49ers would have picked him and dealt Purdy without a second thought. It’s not happening.

His ceiling may still be higher than Mac’s but his floor is much, much lower.

 

[Thelonious]

I would have swapped them in 2021 after the draft but not now. If Lance was going to reach his potential we would have seen it already. The 49ers would have picked him and dealt Purdy without a second thought. It’s not happening.

His ceiling may still be higher than Mac’s but his floor is much, much lower.

I agree. Let's go about this rebuild in a sober, organized manner, under a new GM, rather than snatching at shiny baubles as they present themselves in the manner of any numbers of teams in the past who have managed to hold onto a state of failure sometime extending for decades.

 

[Real fan 02]

I’d swap Mac for Lance. In a heartbeat. Wouldn’t you?

I don’t know if Lance can think on his feet and read defenses, but we all thought Mac could. What we’ve seen is that the only proof is on 5he field performance, and we now know what that’s been for 3 years of Corky.

If Purdy can do it.. Lance could. Lance got hurt last season, and the situation he was in IMO I didn't think was fair to him. I believe if he got a chance to start somewhere he'd shine. Lance has arm talent, and everything you'd like in a 2023 NFL standards QB these days.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Michael McCorkel has the most turnover worthy plays in the NFL with 18
Considering we played 9 games so far, you can do the math and ask yourself how we are supposed to overcome this

 

[n1997y]

Michael McCorkel has the most turnover worthy plays in the NFL with 18
Considering we played 9 games so far, you can do the math and ask yourself how we are supposed to overcome this

Bench him?

 

[Real fan 02]

Bench him?

At this point.. probably doesn't matter.. he's being paid so may as well play him.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Bench him?

absolutely no idea
i have to admit i would like to see zappe for a full game just to see what he can do

 

[n1997y]

At this point.. probably doesn't matter.. he's being paid so may as well play him.

That won’t overcome anything. That was the question.

 

[Real fan 02]

That won’t overcome anything. That was the question.

Yes I know, I was just alluding to the thinking is as such with Mac.

 

[BennyBledsoe]

I'm seeing Mac make the same mistakes he made as a rookie.....

Yeah, it's like he could have used some F'ING COACHING FROM SOMEONE THAT KNOWS HOW TO COACH QBs. Not Matt F'ING Patricia!

 

[sb1]

Bench him?

Too bad Pats don’t have another QB or he would be.