Player Signing Patriots hosting OL Greg Van Roten [Updated: Signed 8/17]

[Family]

Since when? Go ahead and show us where, in the CBA, it says you can't IR someone for a strained MCL. We'll wait.

I stand corrected even though there's this:

If Rupcich believes he is healthy and the Patriots are improperly maintaining his injured status, he could go to the NFLPA and pursue an Article 43 Non-Injury Grievance. Despite the name, Article 43 covers essentially any dispute about a team's compliance with the CBA, player contract or applicable NFL rules that isn't assigned to another grievance procedure.

But I think he loses any appeal.

I thought it was generally accepted that if a player has a practice squad position opportunity somewhere that the team settles and lets him go. But they could promise him three weeks and have an understanding with the team. so who knows.

I thought the player had more say so you're more right.

 

[Family]

Since when? Go ahead and show us where, in the CBA, it says you can't IR someone for a strained MCL. We'll wait.

Also:

Ruprich is on a one year contract. He has to be re-signed to ever play another game with the Patriots.

So I would think he would need some sort of one year extension if there's any interest from the team next year, and they want him to sit and wait.

Otherwise I think they will make a settlement and let him be. I don't think the current Patriots are that mean spirited.

Maybe no one comes calling, and they add him back.

 

[DaBruinz]

I stand corrected even though there's this:

If Rupcich believes he is healthy and the Patriots are improperly maintaining his injured status, he could go to the NFLPA and pursue an Article 43 Non-Injury Grievance. Despite the name, Article 43 covers essentially any dispute about a team's compliance with the CBA, player contract or applicable NFL rules that isn't assigned to another grievance procedure.

But I think he loses any appeal.

I thought it was generally accepted that if a player has a practice squad position opportunity somewhere that the team settles and lets him go. But they could promise him three weeks and have an understanding with the team. so who knows.

I thought the player had more say so you're more right.

That grievance you're talking about is when they first issue the designation. Not 8-10 weeks after he's put on the season ending IR> Teams are not required to give a player an injury settlement. There is nothing "improper" about it.

 

[DaBruinz]

Also:

Ruprich is on a one year contract. He has to be re-signed to ever play another game with the Patriots.

So I would think he would need some sort of one year extension if there's any interest from the team next year, and they want him to sit and wait.

Otherwise I think they will make a settlement and let him be. Maybe no one comes calling, and they add him back.

That's nothing but speculation on your part and has NOTHING to do with your claim that a player sustaining an MCL sprain can't be put onto the IR.

Here is the reality. A team can put a player onto IR for any injury. IR in pre-season works differently than the regular season in that players who go onto it are done for the year unless the team gives them an injury settlement.

Injury settlements are done for 2 reasons. To clear cap space. Or because the player is likely to be healthy between now and the number of games that the settlement is for. It allows said player to search out other options or to see if the team has a need after the number of games in the settlement.

 

[Family]

That's nothing but speculation on your part and has NOTHING to do with your claim that a player sustaining an MCL sprain can't be put onto the IR.

Here is the reality. A team can put a player onto IR for any injury. IR in pre-season works differently than the regular season in that players who go onto it are done for the year unless the team gives them an injury settlement.

Injury settlements are done for 2 reasons. To clear cap space. Or because the player is likely to be healthy between now and the number of games that the settlement is for. It allows said player to search out other options or to see if the team has a need after the number of games in the settlement.

He's done as being a member of the New England Patriots unless they agree to another deal, so neither side have gained anything.

OR: The Patriots could clear cap with a settlement on a player who might not be here next year, and the player gains his freedom to pursue his NFL career (provided reports are correct that it's a short term injury) on some practice squad.

I don't know what you are making a big deal about. If the Patriots don't commit something to the player (and that just might be a spot on the practice squad in 3 weeks) then it will be in everybody's interest to move on.

 

[Uptown]

 

[BobDigital]

I don't understand your math. Five starters and two backups at each of tackle, guard, and center makes for eleven.

I kind of group OL into 2 spots. OT and IOL (interior) I know technically some interior OL are more guards than centers just like some OTs are better on the left than right. But in the end the question is do you have a player who knows the spot. I believe both Brown and Roten know center a bit. Even if not either's best spot.