Patriots' Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe

[VrabelMayeWin]

According to "people close to Hernandez" there were concerns that he had recently become involved again with the gang which had been involved with before going to Florida.

If this news is true....

Where exactly did you get this from ? Your own mind or a legit article that you didn't choose to quote ?

 

[Deus Irae]

But you're not a criminal lawyer, so really your opinion doesn't matter much.

See, this is the sort of stupidity that I was trying to avoid. You have no idea what, if any, law I'm currently practicing, yet you're talking out of your ass as if you do. Also, your post said "lawyer", not "criminal lawyer".

Basically, the more you post, the more you clown yourself.

Boy it must really really irritate you that as more comes out, it looks more and more like what I said was absolutely true.
Well I might say that, but if I did you'd look much less foolish that putting your foot in your mouth, which you have done repeatedly over the past 18 hours or so.

What you said was moronic. It continues to be moronic. It will be moronic long after the Hernandez issue is a distant memory.

 

[BradyManny]

Where exactly did you get this from ? Your own mind or a legit article that you didn't choose to quote ?

This one is legit: Bedard

We've seen this story over and over. These guys with tough upbringings just can't escape them, even if they overcome that upbringing and become successful. Money & fame doesn't exactly help keep those ties at bay. Hernandez playing so close to where he grew up doesn't help either.

 

[Rob0729]

The current reports could not be more conflicting if they tried

CBS says he is not cooperating and has not been ruled out as a suspect

ABC says he has cooperated and is not believed to be a suspect

FWIW, Fox News is reporting the police are in a low speed car chase on 95 with Hernandez in a white Ford Bronco.

 

[SB39]

See, this is the sort of stupidity that I was trying to avoid.

Well you can feel free to stop responding to my posts any day now. But you apparently lack the self control to do so. You're so obsessed with "being right" that you have to respond to every single disagreement.

And then you make sure you tell us all how much you "don't care" about what I am thinking.

You have no idea what, if any, law I'm currently practicing, yet you're talking out of your ass as if you do. Also, your post said "lawyer", not "criminal lawyer".

I know you're not a criminal lawyer because, with your obsession with waving your bona fides, you would have told us all if you were in order to pretend to be more expert on the subject.

It sure bothers you that I was absolutely correct last night, doesn't it?

 

[Deus Irae]

Well you can feel free to stop responding to my posts any day now.

Good. You've made the comment, so when I do, you'll have no "he ran away" to pretend about.

But you apparently lack the self control to do so. You're so obsessed with "being right" that you have to respond to every single disagreement.

Actually, I've been clowning you the whole time. That's not really an obsession. It's more like a sport. It's become stale, though, so this will be the last post and you'll go on ignore.

And then you make sure you tell us all how much you "don't care" about what I am thinking.

You confuse my defending my position, generally, with giving a rat's ass about what you think. They are two distinctly different things.

I know you're not a criminal lawyer because, with your obsession with waving your bona fides, you would have told us all if you were in order to pretend to be more expert on the subject.

I didn't obsess about anything as far as my bona fides go, and I only mentioned being a lawyer in response to your post making a claim about what lawyers would do, as has been shown time and again. Since then, you've been the one obsessing about what area of law I'm currently in. I've been the one saying it's irrelevant. You don't seem to understand what "obsess" means.

It sure bothers you that I was absolutely correct last night, doesn't it?

You weren't right, so there's nothing to bother me.

And, on that note, buh-bye.

 

[Joker]

FWIW, Fox News is reporting the police are in a low speed car chase on 95 with Hernandez in a white Ford Bronco.

according to my cat, Xandor...this is a precursor to a full blown interplanetary invasion by aliens....

 

[primetime]

As others in here have pointed out, you don't need to be convicted of a crime to be suspended in the Goodell Football League. Goodell will do whatever the heck he wants and the powerless NFLPA will do nothing to stop him.

If he was suspended from work for exercising his 5th amendment rights, the NFL would get destroyed in any level of court on constitutional grounds. And yeah, the Vilma appeal showed how 'powerless' the NFLPA is in these appeals cases (most of the time, they don't appeal simply because they know they'll lose as there are legitimate reasons for the suspension, but when they have legitimate reasons, well...).

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

This one is legit: Bedard

I read that one but it doesn't say anything remotely similar to the quote I asked about.

 

[SB39]

Good. You've made the comment, so when I do, you'll have no "he ran away" to pretend about.

This from the guy who obviously doesn't know the difference between "the law" and "legal strategy."

Listen, "counselor" you got called out and you refuse to admit it. Hey, you're not the first, nor will you be the last, to get caught fibbin' on the internet.

 

[SB39]

If he was suspended from work for exercising his 5th amendment rights, the NFL would get destroyed in any level of court on constitutional grounds.

What do you think Goodell would do? Announce "we're suspending him for exercising his 5th amendment rights"? No. He would suspend him on the same grounds he does any other NFLer who gets into trouble. As many in here have already stated, Goodell doesn't need a trial or a guilty verdict to decide to suspend someone.

And yeah, the Vilma appeal showed how 'powerless' the NFLPA is in these appeals cases (most of the time, they don't appeal simply because they know they'll lose as there are legitimate reasons for the suspension, but when they have legitimate reasons, well...).

The NFLPA is the weakest union in pro sports. Having 1 win for every 99 losses doesn't make them a powerful entity.

Goodell will do whatever he wants and the powerless NFLPA will do nothing to stop him.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Here's my theory (and, unlike my other posts in this thread, this post is just speculation): Hernandez got the car in his name since he has the most money and presumably has a good credit card which you need to rent a car. His buddies were using the car and something went down, perhaps a drug deal gone wrong and things escalated to the point where someone was shot. The buddies immediately went to Hernandez, the police arrived, etc. I'm hoping this theory is the correct one because it implies no direct involvement by Hernandez.

I also have an alternate theory that involves the girlfriends.... maybe the victim was guilty of domestic violence, smackin' his girlfriend around..... maybe Hernandez and co. decided to take matters into their own hands and get a little revenge, and things escalated out of control. What was supposed to be a little beatdown ended up in a shooting.... This theory scares the heck out of me because that means Hernandez has direct involvement.

Just throwing those out there - enjoy!

Since we're into wackjob speculation...

I'd have the cops check out where Hooman, Ballard and Zack Sudfeld were at the time.

Could be a setup.

More $ at stake here than in the vast majority of murders for $

 

[Demosthenes]

If an NFL player - or any worker - could be suspended from work for exercising his Constitutional rights under the 5th amendment, we'd see a massive blowback from labor. That's a truly chilling scenario.

You can be suspended or fired from your job for exercising any of a number of your Constitutional rights. Don't believe me ? Walk up to your boss and exercise your "right to freedom of speech" and tell him that he's an idiot and to go screw himself.

In most cases, you'll be out of a job immediately and they won't suffer from any blowback.

 

[robbomango]

Well you can feel free to stop responding to my posts any day now. But you apparently lack the self control to do so. You're so obsessed with "being right" that you have to respond to every single disagreement.

And then you make sure you tell us all how much you "don't care" about what I am thinking.
I know you're not a criminal lawyer because, with your obsession with waving your bona fides, you would have told us all if you were in order to pretend to be more expert on the subject.

It sure bothers you that I was absolutely correct last night, doesn't it?

I don't think someone that's been a member of this board for that long is going to lie about their chosen profession, personally. And if he did state he was a criminal attorney how would that be pretending exactly? You probably wouldn't believe him anyway.

Funny you're using his silence on a subject against him...

 

[goheels22002]

Since we're into wackjob speculation...

I'd have the cops check out where Hooman, Ballard and Zack Sudfeld were at the time.

Could be a setup.

More $ at stake here than in the vast majority of murders for $

I smell a rat. I bet Eric Mangini has something to do with this.

 

[primetime]

You can be suspended or fired from your job for exercising any of a number of your Constitutional rights. Don't believe me ? Walk up to your boss and exercise your "right to freedom of speech" and tell him that he's an idiot and to go screw himself.

In most cases, you'll be out of a job immediately and they won't suffer from any blowback.

Harassment isn't covered by the first amendment, so that's a terrible example.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

If he was suspended from work for exercising his 5th amendment rights, the NFL would get destroyed in any level of court on constitutional grounds.

Why on earth do you believe that? There's no rule (absent a contract that says otherwise) that private entities can't take actions against you for exercising your constitutional rights (which, by the way, are rights you have against the government, not against private entities).

Now, if your employer is the government, constitutional rights can come into play. Otherwise, not so much.

 

[primetime]

What do you think Goodell would do? Announce "we're suspending him for exercising his 5th amendment rights"? No. He would suspend him on the same grounds he does any other NFLer who gets into trouble. As many in here have already stated, Goodell doesn't need a trial or a guilty verdict to decide to suspend someone.

You said Hernandez could be suspended for 'not cooperating with police.' Unless he was hindering a police investigation, such a suspension would lose in any appeals court (like Vilma) and probably result in a civil suit brought against the NFL.

 

[serifyn]

I read that one but it doesn't say anything remotely similar to the quote I asked about.

Aaron Hernandez has associates engaged in "gang activity" | nePatriotsLife.com - New England Patriots Fan Site, Blog, T-shirts

Independently, both a former and current New England teammate said that they believed Hernandez was having some trouble with his past associates and was seeking distance from them. Bristol, Conn. is just a two hour drive to Hernandez's home.

"It was a thug life," is how one teammate described some of Hernandez's friends.

 

[Joker]

Since we're into wackjob speculation...

I'd have the cops check out where Hooman, Ballard and Zack Sudfeld were at the time.

Could be a setup.

More $ at stake here than in the vast majority of murders for $

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