Patriots get the last laugh if there is no season

[XLIX]

He set in motion the front office, picks, and personnel of the Ravens who’ve had more success that most teams. Was he also the last coach to take CLE to the playoffs ?

What players that Cleveland had under Belichick were instrumental in Baltimore's Super Bowl 5 years later?

And no, he wasn't the last coach to take Cleveland to the playoffs although, let's be honest.... today's Cleveland team is an entirely different franchise than the one Belichick coached. The actual franchise that Belichick left has had some good success over the past 25 years.

 

[XLIX]

Well its the fact that they won 7 games so not complete losers like some other teams .

Brady and gronk together are more than sum of their parts. Its synergistic to add both those guys IMO.

They won 7 games with a QB who turned the ball over more that 2 times per game on average. Just get rid of the turnovers and they're 10-6 at worst.

 

[XLIX]

Never said NE is going to win lots of games. I am saying I think Tampa is not going to be nearly as good as many here believe.

So what's your prediction then? Mine is 12-4.

 

[farn]

Need to agree to disagree on Tampa’s 2020 outlook. I can’t be the only poster skeptical of their upcoming success.

I’ll go 9-7 or 8-8.

 

[Hyped]

Need to agree to disagree on Tampa’s 2020 outlook. I can’t be the only poster skeptical of their upcoming success.

I’ll go 9-7 or 8-8.

The last time Tom Brady had a 9-7 record was in 2002....18 years ago.

Brady just does not lose games......if you are skeptical....you should be saying 10-6 minimum, IMO....which is a 3+ win difference JUST because Brady won't throw north of 20 interceptions and put the D on the field for a few extra drives a game.

 

[farn]

The last time Tom Brady had a 9-7 record was in 2002....18 years ago.

Brady just does not lose games......if you are skeptical....you should be saying 10-6 minimum, IMO....which is a 3+ win difference JUST because Brady won't throw north of 20 interceptions and put the D on the field for a few extra drives a game.

Emotional people love Brady. I get it.

« The last time Tom... » : the last time Tom Brady was on another team was Michigan, more than 18 years ago. He’s not on a good team.

 

[pheenix11]

It should be much improve. Guys will actually be open.

You mean like those swing routes he overthrew?

 

[Hyped]

Emotional people love Brady. I get it.

« The last time Tom... » : the last time Tom Brady was on another team was Michigan, more than 18 years ago. He’s not on a good team.

OK, let's wager on it.....

I say over 11 wins. And $20?

 

[scout]

OK, let's wager on it.....

I say over 11 wins. And $20?

Your post is worth more than any dollar amount. There are members that never post, who will remember your post. Not to mention members that always will remind you of your bet.

 

[farn]

OK, let's wager on it.....

I say over 11 wins. And $20?

Honor system. If they win 12+ as you suggest I’ll donate 20$ to a local charity and let you know where your money went. 11 wins or less, you do the same. Either way, a good cause gets a few bucks & one of us gets to rag on the other for a few days.
(Note to others : no, I’m not taking other wagers ! I’m crazy, not financially imprudent !)

 

[Hyped]

Honor system. If they win 12+ as you suggest I’ll donate 20$ to a local charity and let you know where your money went. 11 wins or less, you do the same. Either way, a good cause gets a few bucks & one of us gets to rag on the other for a few days.
(Note to others : no, I’m not taking other wagers ! I’m crazy, not financially imprudent !)

You are on with two caveats....16 game sked.If the sked is shortened....we will adjust.

And please donate to any kind of local Pit Bull recuse......

 

[Triumph]

China has been playing baseball this month without fans. That bodes well for our pro teams getting back on the field later this summer.

If we cant trust China who the hell can we trust?

 

[PatsBoy12]

The talent around him was not that much worse than his early years...and his numbers the second half of 2019 definitely declined. I think he'll definitely do well in TB, but I don't think it's fair to blame his 2019 season all on the WR corps.

Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing, but you have to also mention that it was an entirely different game in his early years too. That does make a slight difference in any comparison of the eras.

 

[farn]

You are on with two caveats....16 game sked.If the sked is shortened....we will adjust.

And please donate to any kind of local Pit Bull recuse......

I’m a good person. So are you. We just don’t have the seem confidence in Tampa. It’s 75% winning. 12 of 16 or “they win 75% or regular season games or more !
(I’ll go local youth sports - always a winner)

 

[XLIX]

Emotional people love Brady. I get it.

« The last time Tom... » : the last time Tom Brady was on another team was Michigan, more than 18 years ago. He’s not on a good team.

And the last time Belichick had a QB not named Brady he was 5-13 over his first 18 games.

 

[Coolade]

Tampa has potential stacked team like 49ers last year. IMO..

Thing about brady, is the things that have made him great are the brains, leadership, decision making are mostly still there ... as long as the body and arm hold up. But that's a big IF. ....

 

[farn]

And the last time Belichick had a QB not named Brady he was 5-13 over his first 18 games.

I never said I think NE is going to do well in 2020. Just said I think Tampa’s record isn’t going to be that great.

 

[Triumph]

Gronk screwed the Patriots IF Bayless is correct.

Matt Patricia was willing to give the Pats a 1ST ROUND PICK for Gronk in 2018. But Gronk threatened to retire if traded. Then, Gronk retires in 2019 and plays with the Fans and media all season about coming back to help an ailing team trying mount a playoff run.

2020, NE has no cap space and Gronk unretires knowing that NE cannot keep him. NE gets a 4th. The likelihood of Gronk and Brady lighting it up is a given with their chemistry and past history. in the end, the Pats will have traded a top TE for a measly 4th round pick.

 

[Bradybranch]

But all the scouts here on Patsfans told me his numbers dropped because of his "noticeable" and "precipitous" decline.

Yeah his receivers were bad but so was he especially as the year went on. Two things can be true at the same time

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Tampa has a good team. People are underestimating them because of how lousy they have been as a franchise but there’s talent. If they get one of the top four tackles in that draft it will help their O- line. I still say they win more than 10 games next season.