Player Signing Patriots are signing Patrick Chung

[TheBostonStraggler]

I am not saying Chung is now going to be a good safety, however, players/people can grow up and evolve. Consider that Chung experienced high success in his college career, then was drafted high to an A+ NFL team, and barely into his 23rd birthday was a starter for this high profile team earning repeated praise in NFL circles. Chung had not experienced real failure and had no reason for introspection or a change in approach. Then these last couple of years happened and he experienced completely new and stark failure. So if introspection and a differing approach to his play was needed to make him a better/effective player, these last two years should (not did) have provided the impetus for it (most especially that this new found failure was experienced well outside his comfort zone in an entirely new environment).

The signing of Chung probably has almost no cap ramifications or risk. So why not give Chung a chance (especially considering the love for him in 2010)? Let's see if he has grown up/evolved to a point he can ably accomplish the role that is asked of him (hopefully at least he is a ST superstar)? He wouldn't be the first player that improved his play based on the smarts that come with experience (and the ability it can provide to cover up deficiencies in one's play). And yet if his level of play remains at the 2012, 2013 level then cut him -- that's that. No reason at all to be worked up over this signing, no need to take shots at BB for it (we have Ocho Cinco for that).....

 

[captain stone]

Major Wright is available because he is awful. He is a terrible player. I live in NFC North territory, I am friends with a few Bears fans. They call him Major Wrong. He takes bad angles all over the field, not just in pass coverage like Chung. The Bears defense last year was the worst run defense in league history, and though he was their strong safety, he's only 25, the Bears have terrible safeties and a bad defensive backfield in general, and have plenty of cap room---he has received zero interest from Chicago.

Fist shaking the signing of Patrick Chung is fine, but doing so because Major Wright is available is like being mad that the team signed Mark Sanchez because Blaine Gabbert was available.

I'd rather have the scrub that knows the playbook than a scrub who couldn't cover in a Tampa 2

I'd rather have the younger, healthier scrub who had a productive 2012 and who might benefit
from a change of scenery here, than have the slightly older, less healthier stiff who might know
the playbook but who could not execute any of it if his life depended on it.

 

[captain stone]

We added a starting caliber safety as depth to a secondary that is arguably the best in the NFL. I am having a hard time seeing the bad in this.

Revis
McCourty
Browner
Dennard
Ryan
Arrington
Harmon
Chung
T Wilson
Ebner

Chung is our #8 DB, I would be willing to bet Chung is the best #8 DB in the NFL by a lot.

The first 5 = pretty darn good; the last 5…not so much.

 

[Wheelman]

Is he really that good on special teams?

Damn right he is! Don't you remember that 2010 divisional round fumble?:bricks:

 

[DocHoliday]

Damn right he is! Don't you remember that 2010 divisional round fumble?:bricks:

Be fair, that was an absurd playcall especially for a SS to handle

 

[JMC00]

I look at it this way

Chung starting along side McCourty and Arrington on the outside and Ihedigbo/ Gregory as the other Safety not so good. (See 2011 and 2012)

But Chung seeing some time at the "Money" alongside Revis and Browner outside, Dennard in the slot, McCourty and ?Ryan? at Safety maybe he could be decent?

 

[Patriot Missile]

It just wouldn't be the same around here without having a whipping boy for fans to take out their frustrations on. I mean without someone like marquise Cole on the roster where would we channel our anger at? I was worried there for a minute.

 

[mgteich]

We should consider that the #2 safety, whoever he is, might look pretty good with Revis, Browner and McCourty as the rest of the starters. We would also have Arrington, Dennard and Ryan available as nickel and dime back.

The fact that we might not need a top strong safety shouldn't have us understanding that the safety position is mediocre behind McCourty.

I look at it this way

Chung starting along side McCourty and Arrington on the outside and Ihedigbo/ Gregory as the other Safety not so good. (See 2011 and 2012)

But Chung seeing some time at the "Money" alongside Revis and Browner outside, Dennard in the slot, McCourty and ?Ryan? at Safety could maybe be decent?

 

[dales804]

Be fair, that was an absurd playcall especially for a SS to handle

Didn't Chung call that play himself? I thought he said that it was his call after the game.

 

[ausbacker]

We should consider that the #2 safety, whoever he is, might look pretty good with Revis, Browner and McCourty as the rest of the starters. We would also have Arrington, Dennard and Ryan available as nickel and dime back.

The fact that we might not need a top strong safety shouldn't have us understanding that the safety position is mediocre behind McCourty.

I've always been of the opinion the weakest link is the weakest link. Operating in the realm of might is worthless.

 

[Wheelman]

Be fair, that was an absurd playcall especially for a SS to handle

Lol I'm just messing around. And to be fair, I remember the commentator saying the play would have been successful had he held on to the ball because there was no one there to stop him apparently.

I wonder if Chung was allowed to make that call with checks? how does that decision work?

 

[Off The Grid]

By comparison, Tim Tebow's starting to look like a good move.

 

[Hael]

Chung was never a bad player.. Just a limited one.

He is the Brandon Spikes of our safeties. An enforcer type who was especially suited to play against the run or checkdown teams where he could hit players about as hard as any safety can in the NFL.

Of course, then the rules were changed and his primary method of tackling was removed and so now he is limited to very specific situations.

Further, the wr rules really made the safety position into glorified cornerbacks, and so his weaknesses were made apparent.

He's sorta an oldschool safety, but imo he won't make the team.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I'd rather have the younger, healthier scrub who had a productive 2012 and who might benefit
from a change of scenery here, than have the slightly older, less healthier stiff who might know
the playbook but who could not execute any of it if his life depended on it.

Wright couldn't execute a Tampa 2. I take it you really haven't watched him play. He is a complete stiff. I understand you don't like Chung, but trust me when I tell you that Major Wright is not an upgrade to any team's starting situation in the entire NFL. The Bears safety play was the worst in the league. The only team he has gotten a sniff from is Tampa, where he would be signing knowing for certain that he's a backup and where the new head coach has been rounding up his old buddies like it's a high school reunion.

Not liking Chung is fine, not wanting Chung around is fine. But being upset because they didn't sign a scrub is odd. Wright isn't a JAG, he's a full on scrub.

 

[Username]

Chung might be ok at SS. Just hit people hard and blitz occasionally and let the better players cover. Definitely won't be the same liability in this defence as he was in his previous time here.

 

[ATippett56]

Chung sucks.

There, I said it and boy did that feel good!

 

[fnordcircle]

Chung > Tavon

Not saying much but if he sticks it's a roster upgrade over Tavon at least.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Lol I'm just messing around. And to be fair, I remember the commentator saying the play would have been successful had he held on to the ball because there was no one there to stop him apparently.

I wonder if Chung was allowed to make that call with checks? how does that decision work?

that play was on Chung. Chung was the one who made the decision to do it on his own - not the coaching staff, from what i remember.

i can't believe this thread has 3 stars.

 

[DocHoliday]

that play was on Chung. Chung was the one who made the decision to do it on his own - not the coaching staff, from what i remember.



i can't believe this thread has 3 stars.

It's doubtful he'd admit to anything else

 

[Big-T]

Wasn't it the coaches gave Chung the option to change the play because they saw something on tape that only Westhoff had the punt block unit line up like and would have given Chung an easy first down if they ran the fake?