Player Signing Patriots are signing Patrick Chung

[RayClay]

He wasn't good in coverage, but he was pretty dynamic until he hurt his shoulder. I think his shoulder never healed right and when you're a hitter who doesn't cover well, that's game over.

Glad BB isn't one to demonize. We've got more coverage people than we can get on the field now. A cheap role player who knows the system? Worth a try IMO.

 

[Hercules Rockefeller]

I don't know if SS becomes our #1 need, but if Chunks plays even a small number of meaningful
snaps next season, then Bill will have failed to do enough to improve his defense, again.

Meanwhile, Danieal Manning signs with Cinci, and Major Wright remains available.

Major Wright is available because he is awful. He is a terrible player. I live in NFC North territory, I am friends with a few Bears fans. They call him Major Wrong. He takes bad angles all over the field, not just in pass coverage like Chung. The Bears defense last year was the worst run defense in league history, and though he was their strong safety, he's only 25, the Bears have terrible safeties and a bad defensive backfield in general, and have plenty of cap room---he has received zero interest from Chicago.

Fist shaking the signing of Patrick Chung is fine, but doing so because Major Wright is available is like being mad that the team signed Mark Sanchez because Blaine Gabbert was available.

I'd rather have the scrub that knows the playbook than a scrub who couldn't cover in a Tampa 2

 

[Brady6]

I see the Chung signing as competition for Adrian Wilson as Belichick attempts to reintegrate the “money” position that used to be one of the most dynamic playmaking positions on our defense but has gone astray over the past 2-3 years.

4-3 Heavy
LDE-Armstead
LDT-Kelly
RDT-Wilfork
RDE-Jones
SAM-Collins
MIKE-Hightower
WILL-Mayo
LCB-Revis
RCB-Browner/Dennard
In-box SAF-Chung or Wilson
Deep SAF-McCourty

3-2-6 Front
LDE-Ninkovich
DT-Kelly/Armstead
RDE-Jones
SLB-Collins
WLB-Mayo
"Money" SAF-Chung or Wilson
LCB-Revis
RCB-Dennard
Tight-end CB-Browner
SAF-Ryan
SAF-McCourty

4-1-6 Front
LDE-Ninkovich
LDT-Kelly/Armstead
RDT-Jones
RDE-Buchanan
MLB-Mayo/Collins
"Money" SAF-Chung or Wilson
LCB-Revis
RCB-Dennard
Tight-end CB-Browner
SAF-Ryan
SAF-McCourty

I would not be caught up in Chung being the safety opposite McCourty, that is going to Ryan or Harmon, Chung is going to a situational run stopper in early down situations and play the “money” position in certain sub packages.

 

[Coach42]

Major Wright is available because he is awful. He is a terrible player. I live in NFC North territory, I am friends with a few Bears fans. They call him Major Wrong. He takes bad angles all over the field, not just in pass coverage like Chung. The Bears defense last year was the worst run defense in league history, and though he was their strong safety, he's only 25, the Bears have terrible safeties and a bad defensive backfield in general, and have plenty of cap room---he has received zero interest from Chicago.

Fist shaking the signing of Patrick Chung is fine, but doing so because Major Wright is available is like being mad that the team signed Mark Sanchez because Blaine Gabbert was available.

I'd rather have the scrub that knows the playbook than a scrub who couldn't cover in a Tampa 2

I second this. I have a couple of really good friends who are Bears fans and I watched quite a few games of theirs this year. The Bears safety situation was easily the worst in the NFL. I would go as far to say that any of the safeties we've started over the last 4-5 years were MUCH better than Conte or Wright.

As a whole I don't think any position including CB has been as negatively effected by the newish illegal contact rules than safety. League wide safety play generally stinks. IMO Earl Thomas is the only truly jack of all trades elite safety in the whole league.

 

[Mack Herron]

Mike Loyko ?@NEPD_Loyko 1h

In regards to Patrick Chung signing.. I'm told it's with an eye towards Special Teams coverage units. Pairing up him and Slater.

can never have too many ST safeties in camp.

 

[Triumph]

On the Other hand:

Bill Belechick thought enough of some of his talents to draft him in Round 2

Another 2nd round bust.

 

[DefenseRules]

I was at work when I heard about this signing. I wasn't thrilled but I thought, meh at least it's only for one year. I just found out that they gave Chung a THREE YEAR DEAL. You have got to be kidding me.
Waste of cap room, IMO.

 

[DefenseRules]

can never have too many ST safeties in camp.

Is he really that good on special teams?

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Over or under 5 15 yarders this year for PI/helmet to helmet


I was hoping he would have to pay US to come back...guess not

 

[Mack Herron]

I was at work when I heard about this signing. I wasn't thrilled but I thought, meh at least it's only for one year. I just found out that they gave Chung a THREE YEAR DEAL. You have got to be kidding me.
Waste of cap room, IMO.

I wouldn't sweat the years before learning the guaranteed dollars. He only takes cap room if he's here.

 

[RayClay]

I was at work when I heard about this signing. I wasn't thrilled but I thought, meh at least it's only for one year. I just found out that they gave Chung a THREE YEAR DEAL. You have got to be kidding me.
Waste of cap room, IMO.

Sure you didn't hear about his 3 year deal with Philly?

 

[DefenseRules]

Sure you didn't hear about his 3 year deal with Philly.

If what I was told is incorrect...then thank God. I happily stand corrected and I will sleep soundly tonight.

 

[Brady6]

Over or under 5 15 yarders this year for PI/helmet to helmet


I was hoping he would have to pay US to come back...guess not

We added a starting caliber safety as depth to a secondary that is arguably the best in the NFL. I am having a hard time seeing the bad in this.

Revis
McCourty
Browner
Dennard
Ryan
Arrington
Harmon
Chung
T Wilson
Ebner

Chung is our #8 DB, I would be willing to bet Chung is the best #8 DB in the NFL by a lot.

 

[Brady6]

Is he really that good on special teams?

He is good, but more important he can actually contribute on defense too, hopefully this helps so we aren't carrying 12 one dimensional ST only players this season.

 

[ausbacker]

I looked back at threads that related to Chung over the years on here, I could tell you that many of those who view this as such a horrific signing were the same ones labeling him the next big thing 2-3 seasons ago.

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I have said this before and I will say it again, Chung is not that bad of a safety, he is actually very good as a strong safety playing in the box or roaming as an enforcer in the Rodney Harrison type role. In 2009 and 2010 when Merriweather and Sanders were here he was able to freelance in the “money” position. He was very impressive in that role, his failures came when he became a full time starter and was forced to play in deep coverage, which will not be the case this time around, he will be used only in that “money” position in my opinion.

Chung and Meriweather are both average Safeties. Chung is always a step too late.

I disagree with your assessment of Chung Brady6. He consistently takes poor angles, his tackling is average to say the least and I simply don't trust him to make the right decision in the Secondary or on Special Teams.

 

[Deus Irae]

On the Other hand:

Bill Belechick thought enough of some of his talents to draft him in Round 2.

Chip Kelly thought enough of him to recruit him to Oregon.

Chip Kelly thought enough of him to sign him a $15 million dollar FA contract.

Bill Belechick thought enough of him to be willing to bring him back for vet minimum.

Conclusion: Patrick Chung is a slightly better than average SS, able to start but not excel in the League.

But he's not a slightly better than average SS, assuming you mean that in the sense of those actually on the field, and he's not "able" to start.

 

[Brady6]

Chung and Meriweather are both average Safeties. Chung is always a step too late.

I disagree Chung is average maybe even below average in coverage but in the box he is very good. Chung can do the many of the things on a football field that TJ Ward does, the difference is nobody tried to have Ward play free safety.

 

[ausbacker]

I



I disagree Chung is average maybe even below average in coverage but in the box he is very good. Chung can do the many of the things on a football field that TJ Ward does, the difference is nobody tried to have Ward play free safety.

No, he can't Brady6. Without implying that Chung is awful, if the Patriots plan on starting him, then the Secondary will be in a world of hurt. My only hope, and as people are suggesting is that he's fifth/sixth on the depth chart and used as a gunner and nothing more.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Chung and Meriweather are both average Safeties. Chung is always a step too late.

I disagree with your assessment of Chung Brady6. He consistently takes poor angles, his tackling is average to say the least and I simply don't trust him to make the right decision in the Secondary or on Special Teams.

Poor tackling...horrible angles. Can't wait

 

[Brady6]

No, he can't Brady6. Without implying that Chung is awful, if the Patriots plan on starting him, then the Secondary will be in a world of hurt. My only hope, and as people are suggesting is that he's the fourth on the depth chart and used as a gunner and nothing more.

I don't think they'll start him I think he is here to play the "money" position that Harrison played and Chung actually played with great success in 2010 when Sanders and the pothead were here.