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    Yep...As I mentioned in another thread, our 90 is pretty much set until TC now.
     
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    OK, I give up.

    Why can we sign any free agents with $5M of cap money available? Brady's extension will be needed later.

    Few are discussing someone who would use $5M of 019 cap. We do need a swing OT and could use a backup biggie DT.

     
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    I suspect you’re talking about Guy, whom I like a lot, but I was thinking about another big fatty. Either way, you’re right to point out that it’s not necessarily a “need,” but I’d like to have someone to bump Shelton down, if not off the list, altogether.

    Butler is in the mix, too, of course.
     
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    Pre-TC update, WWIDo version (edited to include Wise's removal from PUP):

    QB (3) T.Brady, B.Hoyer, J.Stidham

    RB (5) J.Develin, B.Bolden, J.White, R.Burkhead, D.Harris

    WR (4) J.Edelman, P.Dorsett, N.Harry, M.Harris

    TE (4) M.LaCosse, L.Kendricks, S.Anderson, R.Izzo

    C (2) D.Andrews, H.Froholdt
    G (3) S.Mason, J.Thuney, T.Karras
    T (3) M.Cannon, I.Wynn, D.Penn
    - Added Donald Penn (or Jermon Bushrod, if you prefer) because Swing Tackle depth is currently Non-existent.

    DE (4) M.Bennett, D.Wise, J.Simon, C.Winovich,
    DT (4) L.Guy, M.Pennel, D.Shelton, A.Butler

    ILB (2) J.Bentley, C.Sam
    OLB (4) D.Hightower, K.VanNoy, J.Collins, D.Rivers

    CB (6) S.Gilmore, J.McCourty, J.Jones, J.Jackson, J.Williams, D.Dawson

    SS (2) P.Chung, O.Melifonwu
    FS (3) D.McCourty, D.Harmon, T.Brooks

    ST (4) S.Gostkowski, J.Bailey, J.Cardona, Slater

    Total players: 53
    Created with Pats Picker: Pats Picker 2018

    Everybody currently on the pre-season PUP list stays off the 53 until they're no longer on it (such as Dietrich Wise, e.g.).
     
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    Pre-TC update, WWBD version (edited to include Wise's removal from PUP):

    QB (3) T.Brady, B.Hoyer, J.Stidham

    RB (5) J.Develin, B.Bolden, J.White, R.Burkhead, D.Harris

    WR (5) J.Edelman, P.Dorsett, N.Harry, M.Harris, B.Berrios

    TE (3) M.LaCosse, L.Kendricks, R.Izzo

    C (3) D.Andrews, J.Ferentz
    G (3) S.Mason, J.Thuney, T.Karras, H.Froholdt
    T (2) M.Cannon, I.Wynn

    DE (4) M.Bennett, D.Wise, J.Simon, C.Winovich
    DT (4) L.Guy, M.Pennel, D.Shelton, A.Butler

    ILB(2) J.Bentley, E.Roberts
    OLB(4) D.Hightower, K.VanNoy, J.Collins, B.King

    CB (6) S.Gilmore, J.McCourty, J.Jones, J.Jackson, J.Williams, D.Dawson

    SS (2) P.Chung, O.Melifonwu
    FS (3) D.McCourty, D.Harmon, T.Brooks

    ST (4) S.Gostkowski, J.Bailey, J.Cardona, Slater

    Total players: 53
    Created with Pats Picker: Pats Picker 2018

    ( - Bill added Braxton Barrio, Thanksdad Ferentz & Brandon the King of ST penalties; and dropped Mister Anderson, Donald Penn & Christian Sam.)
     
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    QB (3) T.Brady, B.Hoyer, J.Stidham

    RB (5) S.Michel, J.White, D.Harris, B.Bolden, J.Develin (R.Burkhead traded for draft pick)

    WR (6) J.Edelman, N.Harry, P.Dorsett, M.Harris, B.Berrios, M.Slater

    TE (2) M.LaCosse, L.Kendricks, (B.Watson SUS 4 weeks)

    C (2) D.Andrews, T.Karras
    G (3) S.Mason, I.Wynn, H.Froholdt (I.Wynn LG)
    T (3) M.Cannon, J.Thuney, Y.Cajuste (J.Thuney LT)

    DE (4) M.Bennett, D.Wise, C.Winovich, J.Simon
    DT (4) L.Guy, M.Pennel, A.Butler, D.Shelton

    ILB (3) J.Bentley, E.Roberts, B.King
    OLB (4) D.Hightower, K.VanNoy, J.Collins, C.Sam

    CB (6) S.Gilmore, J.Jackson, J.McCourty, J.Williams, D.Dawson, J.Jones
    SS (3) P.Chung, O.Melifonwu, N.Ebner
    FS (2) D.McCourty, D.Harmon

    ST (3) S.Gostkowski, J.Bailey, J.Cardona
    Total players: 53

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    You got more work to do...
     
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    Are we one injury to Harry from being in a world of hurt at the wide receiver position?
     
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    Some see it that way, including myself. Others choose to list Thomas and Gordon and see no issue. Are you a glass half-full kind of guy?

    I don’t think it’s a terribly pressing need at the moment, but I also don’t agree with the WR grouping being set, either. The two unknown players are going to present a challenge in terms of predicting roster moves, that’s for sure.
     
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    We're already there...and we can add the TE position to that world also.
     
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    Yes. Constantly ignoring the WR position will really hurt us this season unless Harry is healthy and really really good.
     
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    - Burkhead might indeed be traded, but I would guess not until near the end of camp, and only if all 3 of White, Michel & Harris are healthy at that same time.

    - I like that you kept Christian Sam, but I might keep Derek Rivers instead of him if it's an either-or situatiion.

    - I also like that you kept ObiWon, but remember that Bill signed Terrence Brooks early in the FA season, and that signing included a decent-sized bonus that's usually an indicator of Bill's plans for the man. Perhaps Ebner can "retire" and become assistant STs coach?
     
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    Updated WWBD version, to reflect Sony Michel's removal from Active PUP:

    QB (3) T.Brady, B.Hoyer, J.Stidham

    RB (6) J.Develin, B.Bolden, J.White, R.Burkhead, S.Michel, D.Harris

    WR (5) J.Edelman, P.Dorsett, N.Harry, M.Harris, J.Meyers

    TE (2) M.LaCosse, L.Kendricks

    C (2) D.Andrews, T.Karras
    G (3) S.Mason, J.Thuney, H.Froholdt
    T (3) M.Cannon, I.Wynn, D.Skipper

    DE (5) M.Bennett, D.Wise, J.Simon, C.Winovich, D.Rivers
    DT (4) L.Guy, M.Pennel, D.Shelton, A.Butler

    ILB (2) E.Roberts, J.Bentley
    OLB (4) D.Hightower, K.VanNoy, J.Collins, B.King

    CB (6) S.Gilmore, J.McCourty, J.Jones, J.Williams, J.Jackson, D.Dawson

    SS (1) P.Chung
    FS (3) D.McCourty, D.Harmon, T.Brooks

    ST (4) S.Gostkowski, J.Bailey, J.Cardona, Slater
     
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    Updated WWIDo version:

    QB (3) T.Brady, B.Hoyer, J.Stidham

    RB (6) J.Develin, B.Bolden, J.White, R.Burkhead, S.Michel, D.Harris

    WR (4) J.Edelman, P.Dorsett, N.Harry, M.Harris

    TE (3) M.LaCosse, L.Kendricks, S.Anderson

    C (2) D.Andrews, T.Karras
    G (3) S.Mason, J.Thuney, H.Froholdt
    T (2) M.Cannon, I.Wynn

    DE (5) M.Bennett, D.Wise, J.Simon, C.Winovich, D.Rivers
    DT (4) L.Guy, M.Pennel, D.Shelton, A.Butler

    ILB (2) E.Roberts, J.Bentley
    OLB (4) D.Hightower, K.VanNoy, J.Collins, C.Sam

    CB (6) S.Gilmore, J.McCourty, J.Jones, J.Jackson, J.Williams, D.Dawson

    SS (2) P.Chung, O.Melifonwu
    FS (3) D.McCourty, D.Harmon, T.Brooks

    ST (4) S.Gostkowski, J.Bailey, J.Cardona, Slater

    Replaced Jakobi Meyers, Dan Skipper & Brandon the King of STs Penalties from the WWBD version with Mister Anderson, Christian Sam & ObiWon. Wouldn't be surprised to see Bill start the season with only 7 OLmen, then sign a vet after week 1.
     
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    I'll take a crack at my initial 53 guess after the first pre-season game.

    But clearly...we are gonna be cutting some real good players this year. Maybe there are trades to be made.......
     
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    Good point , secondary and linebackers in particular look s tough to call
     
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    I think that we overemphasize the end of the roster. We have 9 on the secondary who should get almost all the reps. And, yes, there could be a trade.

    CB: Gilmore, McCourty, Jackson, Jones, Williams
    S: McCourty, Chung, Harmon, Brooks
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    We will carry one or two more. One should get significant reps on special teams. IMHO, it is health that will determine the final choice or two. Personally, If Ebner is ready to go, he'd be my 10th, with the 11th chosen from Obi, Dawson and Crossen.

     
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    I don't see LB's as being tough to call.

    For me, barring a trade, the linebackers are all but set
    Van Noy, Hightower, Roberts, Collins, Bentley and King

    Sam has an outside chance, especially with an injury or trade.

     
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